Re: Non-Judaic Nature of Christ
I'm glad someone here, besides Axel, is taking me to task. Like I said previously, for the sake of convenience I would like to be proven wrong in my thesis.
Nevertheless, what if I told you that my 'revelation,' pardon the pun, has actually gotten me closer to God? What if I told you I actually understand Christ now more than I ever have in the past? God for me is now truly a universal God, a creator of all things good. Besides, are you saying that belief in traditional Christianity is supposed make one "feel" like they are getting closer to God? Is "feeling" the mere importance of it all? If so, then there are many billions of non-Christians on earth who also "feel" close to a god as well. I am not referring to mere feelings here, I am trying to reveal the obvious fact that the God in the Gospels is not the tribal god of the Torah/Tanakh/Talmud. Yes, I reject the bloodthirsty, jealous and contradictory tribal deity called Yahweh - a god who, according to his "chosen" people, is said to have full control over the "devil" and makes the devil exist only because it wants to see if it can fool mankind into sin and eventual death. The OT god is not our God, that realization to me is as clear as light.
I ask you all to wake up from your "Pauline" derived Nicaean sanctioned theological formula.
Yes, I agree. We have to deal with what history has dealt us. Culturally, we must accept and nurture the Armenian Apostolic Church. There is no other option at this point. However, as souls with independent will we should also be expected to seek the truth, to seek God.
I have utmost reverence towards our church forefathers. Yes, they are the sources for spiritual guidance. But how does that change any of what I am stating?
Judging from your reply I gather you are not challenging my core thesis that Christ has no connections to the Old Testament. This realization has nothing to do with "spiritual guidance." I think Christ's Gospels by themselves are sufficient for spiritual guidance. I would also say Buddhism and Zoroastrianism are sufficient for spiritual guidance. Having said that, the Torah/Tanakh/Talmud actually get in the way of my spiritual guidance.
I see you have had an absence of several years from this board. What brought you here? How were you informed of this conversation?
Originally posted by Yeznik
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Nevertheless, what if I told you that my 'revelation,' pardon the pun, has actually gotten me closer to God? What if I told you I actually understand Christ now more than I ever have in the past? God for me is now truly a universal God, a creator of all things good. Besides, are you saying that belief in traditional Christianity is supposed make one "feel" like they are getting closer to God? Is "feeling" the mere importance of it all? If so, then there are many billions of non-Christians on earth who also "feel" close to a god as well. I am not referring to mere feelings here, I am trying to reveal the obvious fact that the God in the Gospels is not the tribal god of the Torah/Tanakh/Talmud. Yes, I reject the bloodthirsty, jealous and contradictory tribal deity called Yahweh - a god who, according to his "chosen" people, is said to have full control over the "devil" and makes the devil exist only because it wants to see if it can fool mankind into sin and eventual death. The OT god is not our God, that realization to me is as clear as light.
I ask you all to wake up from your "Pauline" derived Nicaean sanctioned theological formula.
I understand that you don’t believe in the OT books and that you see Christianity in the Avesta, but the fact of the matter is that those books are there and they are not going anywhere.
I have a slight concern regarding your statements regarding the Church Fathers and the Saints I hope you understand that their primary objective is the bring spiritual guidance, and when you are “challenging” them that you recognize your statements are as comparative historical assessments and not matters for spiritual guidance.
For example there are parallels between Christ and Mher and Buddha, but no such example of a person or that stereotype existed in the OT, this is just an assessment not grounds for spiritual guidance.
I see you have had an absence of several years from this board. What brought you here? How were you informed of this conversation?
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