Evolution and Religion

[Anonymouse]

Wow loser, I didn't think you'd be this fanatical about evolution. Even I concede microevolution, but I disagree on macro.

[loseyourname]

So the human spine is anatomically adapted to quadrapedal locomotion and the human genome shows relation to archaea because of microevolution?

[Anonymouse]

You very well know I do not support macroevolution. Within species variation is there, the only alternative for that is creation, i.e. intelligent intervention. But let's stick to free will.

[loseyourname]

You haven't answered the question. Evolution explains why our backbones are adapted to walking on all fours and great parts of our genome are identical to archaea but not bacteria. How does creation explain this?

[Anonymouse]

It doesn't explain it, it assumes it. One can very well state that "God, or Aliens, or an intelligent designer realized humans need better locomotion, and hence adapted our backbones."

Really, it's all faith Mr. Loser.

[loseyourname]

No, an intelligent designer (unless he was completely incompetent) would have designed a backbone that was best suited for an upright, bipedal posture. If we evolved from quadrapedal creatures, then we would expect to have a backbone that is well-suited for a quadrapedal posture, and in fact we do. By itself, that doesn't constitute proof of anything, but if you won't even accept that as evidence, you are being an absolute hypocrite, when you consider the kinds of things you'll count as evidence for your own pet conspiracy theories.

[Anonymouse]

Who said Aliens had to be perfect? And what's conspiratorial about this? Even evolutionists conspire about their theory. Conspiracy is a common thing, don't act like it's only in banana republics or Amish towns.

[loseyourname]

So are you postulating that aliens created us from scratch? Or from a pre-existing quadrapedal primate?

[Anonymouse]

You see, unlike evolutionists, I don't know, but I have a guess. My guess is that, there is intelligent design, perhaps in the initial creation of life here. Even if one assumes evolution, the beginning couldn't have just "evolved". But during that process only intelligence has been able to guide living organisms to another higher level, whether that be God or Aliens, I do not know. Perhaps the earth is one big lab for Aliens, for all we know, testing various living organisms in various times.

Karl Popper said that the fundamental attribute of scientific theories is that they are falsifiable. Is evolution somehow beyond this criteria and so holy as to evade falsification?

[loseyourname]

Did anybody ever say that evolution isn't falsifiable? You're the one twisting and turning a creationist theory every which way to fit the given evidence that prima facie supports evolution. What negative evidence would you accept?