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  • Re: War in The Middle East

    Originally posted by Armenian
    what Europeans did to native Americans has nothing to do with Christ's message, it was the gluttonous and violent nature of humans that was the driving force behind what occured in the new world. On the other hand, the violence commited by J-e-w-s against Arabs (or other Goy has) has alot to do with their sacred scriptures, in 'addition' to human nature.


    first, yes what the Europeans did to native Americans had lots to do with their beliefs about the ‘savages’ and their view that they were on some divine mission to convert the world. that still goes on. it seems whenever people start thinking only their religion or ethnicity is the correct one, violence follows. maybe start a thread on that issue.

    and to the people before who said i cannot be both, if you are not speaking as a person with armenian j-e-wish ancestry, i think you shouldn’t be telling me what I can and can’t be. there are two sides of the same coin.

    there were once 5 competing string theories in physics. that drove physicists crazy. which one is right? then, a scholar showed M theory. how all of the theories were different ways of saying the same thing. religions are like these theories. countries fighting over religion is about as crazy as physicists pulling guns over string theory. the real issues aren’t as much religion as they are about money and power and politics. those who have those want more and try to take it with force.


    i am tired of the anti-semitism here. here is a reminder

    [img] http://www.messianicspecialties.com/...suswasaxxx.jpg [/img]

    i believe israel MUST stop its offensive right NOW.
    Last edited by OMG; 07-27-2006, 11:32 PM.

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    • Re: War in The Middle East

      are you bored of anti semitism...let me tell you amigo people are also bored of joos but they dont go anywhere so i think you have to live with that.. why dont you just make some propaganda about wwII and how those nice joos got killed? oh i see.. it wont work this time right?

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      • Re: War in The Middle East

        Originally posted by Armenian
        Greater Armenia is essential for our long term survival as a viable nation within the region. What's more, unlike the Zionist State of Israel, we Armenians have a legal, spiritual and ideological right to the land in question. Although we are in no position to seek our western lands as of now, we nonetheless, must keep its memory alive within our hearts and minds. I also realize that we can only liberate the land through armed conflict. Geopolitics change all the time, I am sure we will one day be able to liberate western Armenia.
        I agree, but what numbers do we have to fill those lands? That's where I see the ultimate problem. The solution is either armed conflict, or do what the Mexicans are doing here in the American southwest.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • Re: War in The Middle East

          Originally posted by karoaper
          I agree though that fundamentally, religions have been taught to be exclusive clubs and in the long run (in the afterlife) anyone not in the club is doomed. So, for a fundamentalist, if someone is doomed in the afterlife what difference does it make if they're xxxxed now. And in fact, while Christians haven't been raised on a steady diet of war and destruction sanctioned by God, they have been taught about purification and absolution for the heretics and non-Christians, mostly by pain and torture and death.
          I beg to differ. One should not take the western forms of christianism (catholicism & protestantism) for christianism itself.
          Here's an orthodox christian view from russian theologian A.S. Khomyakov (1804-1860)

          The Visible and Invisible Church

          THE CHURCH VISIBLE, or upon earth, lives in complete communion and unity with the whole body of the Church, of which Christ is the Head. She has abiding within her Christ and the grace of the Holy Spirit in all their living fullness, but not in the fullness of their manifestation, for she acts and knows not fully, but only so far as it pleases God.

          Inasmuch as the earthly and visible Church is not the fullness and completeness of the whole Church which the Lord has appointed to appear at the final judgment of all creation, she acts and knows only within her own limits; and (according to the words of Paul the Apostle, to the Corinthians, 1 Cor. 5. 12) does not judge the rest of mankind, and only looks upon those as excluded, that is to say, not belonging to her, who exclude themselves. The rest of mankind, whether alien from the Church, or united to her by ties which God has not willed to reveal to her, she leaves to the judgment of the great day. The Church on earth judges for herself only, according to the grace of the Spirit, and the freedom granted her through Christ, inviting also the rest of mankind to the unity and adoption of God in Christ; but upon those who do not hear her appeal she pronounces no sentence, knowing the command of her Saviour and Head, "not to judge another man's servant" (Rom. 14. 4).
          (Sorry for the digression)

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          • Re: War in The Middle East

            Originally posted by Anonymouse
            I agree, but what numbers do we have to fill those lands? That's where I see the ultimate problem. The solution is either armed conflict, or do what the Mexicans are doing here in the American southwest.
            Making awesome chicken soft tacos?

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            • Re: War in The Middle East

              anyway results are as follows
              -rasie in racism and fanaticism
              -collapse of democracy as a worthless system

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              • Re: War in The Middle East

                Even if a truce occurs, few countries seem eager to put troops between Israel and a Hezbollah that is entrenched and refusing to disarm.


                see.. they will push us into the fire... use as puppets as they always do screw our very damaged relations with iran and all the others... hamas will not hesitate to kill our soldiers...

                hey Armenian maybe you will get your chances of " armed conflict " sooner than you expected... thats bad both ways.. i hope that parliment of ours veto it
                Last edited by Otto3; 07-28-2006, 02:25 AM.

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                • Re: War in The Middle East

                  Originally posted by Otto3
                  let me tell you amigo people are also bored of joos but they dont go anywhere so i think you have to live with that.. why dont you just make some propaganda about wwII and how those nice joos got killed? oh i see.. it wont work this time right?

                  what you just said to me sounds equal to this (other people will understand this too):

                  Originally posted by OMG about what Otto3 just said
                  let me tell you amigo people are also bored of ARMENIANS... why dont you just make some propaganda about the ARMENIAN genocide and how those nice ARMENIANS that got killed? oh i see.. it wont work this time right?
                  think!
                  Last edited by OMG; 07-28-2006, 02:42 AM.

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                  • Re: War in The Middle East

                    you made a mistake... it should be like this....

                    "let me tell you amigo people are also bored of TURKS... why dont you just make some propaganda about the TURKISH genocide and how those nice TURKS that got killed? oh i see.. it wont work this time right?"

                    mistake is joos are the killers and you are hugging them... but armenians are not the killers so your sentence is wrong

                    actually we are making this propaganda and its worthles as joos do it...

                    and stop blaming people anti semite (or anti armenian) when you cannot find anything to say
                    Last edited by Otto3; 07-28-2006, 02:54 AM.

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                    • Re: War in The Middle East

                      "Al-Qaeda"

                      Robin Cook: The G8 must seize the opportunity to address the wider issues at the root of such atrocities.


                      Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of th
                      e way

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