Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

You seem to be stuck on this hymen thing.... I'm not sure why. Chastity has nothing to do with a woman's hymen. It's about a belief and code of conduct that was common practice in traditional societies.

You claim that "your" model encourages less dishonesty but there is nothing dishonest about a woman who intentionally attempts to seduce a man who she knows is married. She knows what she is doing and it's up to the man to turn down the offer. Why do the men still get blamed? It's up to the women to take out the trash in their society. However, since the modern woman blames the man for a practice that she herself admits is acceptable then the man is really in a lose-lose situation.

I'm not stuck on anything. I've been trying to redirect you to the comments to which you never replied.

That may not be dishonest, but it is unethical. I don't think women on the whole, think this is acceptable in the least.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

If you mean affair, then say affair.

So, a couple of young adults date for a year or two and no one has any sex... you'd call that an affair?
You want to argue semantics instead of addressing the actual content. Tsk tsk.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

So, a couple of young adults date for a year or two and no one has any sex... you'd call that an affair?
You want to argue semantics instead of addressing the actual content. Tsk tsk.

No, that's called dating.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

No, that's called dating.

Of course... I should have specified "date exclusively"

So, a couple of young adults date for a year or two and no one has any sex... you'd call that an affair?
You want to argue semantics instead of addressing the actual content. Tsk tsk.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

You want to argue semantics instead of addressing the actual content. Tsk tsk.

Would you call herpes as aids?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

That may not be dishonest, but it is unethical. I don't think women on the whole, think this is acceptable in the least.

Sex out of marriage - acceptable
Changing partners due to dissatisfaction - acceptable
Seducing other men when not getting attention in a "relationship" - acceptable

Interesting that modern women are shocked with the behaviour of men when they are the ones who condition the behaviour.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Would you call herpes as aids?

Nope, but when someone in a conversation about STDs says "AIDS," I don't start talking about the difference between an aide and an assistant.

Sex out of marriage - acceptable
Changing partners due to dissatisfaction - acceptable
Seducing other men when not getting attention in a "relationship" - acceptable

Interesting that modern women are shocked with the behaviour of men when they are the ones who condition the behaviour.

Where do you get these insights into the female psyche from?
Women think it's okay to cheat? Is that what you're arguing? What does this have to do with premarital sex again? You evaded the topic so long, I got lost on this zigzaggy nonsensical journey.
Do men find any of those things objectionable?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Nope, but when someone in a conversation about STDs says "AIDS," I don't start talking about the difference between an aide and an assistant.



Where do you get these insights into the female psyche from?
Women think it's okay to cheat? Is that what you're arguing? What does this have to do with premarital sex again? You evaded the topic so long, I got lost on this zigzaggy nonsensical journey.
Do men find any of those things objectionable?

premarital sex = sex out of marriage
affair = sex out of marriage

symantics?

It's only cheating if YOU DEFINE it as cheating. I see nothing wrong with having an affair with another woman while having a signed contract which the state has defined as your "wife". One is sex inside marriage (a signed contract) while the other is sex out of marriage (no contract).

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

premarital sex = sex out of marriage
affair = sex out of marriage

symantics?

It's only cheating if YOU DEFINE it as cheating. I see nothing wrong with having an affair with another woman while having a signed contract which the state has defined as your "wife". One is sex inside marriage (a signed contract) while the other is sex out of marriage (no contract).

I think you forgot where your sidestepping began. Here you go...

So a woman who has had sex at all (regardless of pattern of activity or circumstances) is cheap and basically good only as a cheap alternative to a prostitute? No, that's not an extreme view at all.

Let's assume we adjust the definition of loose women to actually apply to promiscuous women (less extreme standard)...
Wouldn't it be better for all to have education about sex and teach responsible practices, etc than to go on this way and have men go to the town wh0re or Russian prostitutes or whatever? Are the men not "dirty" in this scenario? Indiscriminate and reckless? They're going to go expose themselves to disease and then transmit it as a gift to their virgin bride on their wedding night? "Hey, baby... Wait til I show you the skills (and herpes) I picked up practicing with my favorite Russian prostitute " Give me a moment while I swoon at the romance and thoughtfulness.

Alternatively, some guys might recognize this risk, but a society that views premarital sex this way motivates unethical behavior for them too. It makes it a more appealing option to find a girl to "con" as Gegev described: promise to marry her, sleep with her, and then discard her like spent single-use batteries or something. And are these guys going to be honest about this?

And what does it encourage for the girls? Honesty? No... They are motivated to engage in practices that would leave the hymen intact. These are risky behaviors as well; we know anal is riskier and with oral people don't tend to use any protection. Then of course, they would deny any of this.
Then there's the other women who have their hymens surgically recreated... Either way, the outcome is denial and lies. And that works fine for them because all anyone's interested in is a bloody bed sheet.


This kind of behavior is far more morally reprehensible than a woman who has sex inside a committed monogamous long-term relationship.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I think you forgot where your sidestepping began. Here you go...

I'm not sidestepping, you're trying to label women as having "degrees" of promiscuity.