Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

[Siggie]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

Guys, please use the multi-quote to quote several posts rather than posting two or three times in a row. The multi-quote button (with "+ on it) is the one to the right of the regular "quote."
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[Catharsis]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

Absolutely!, Actually, no that I am gonna married this girl but if I'd do, I will be more than please to spend some time in Armenia, and of course in my country, and honestly more in Armenia since here there are a LOT of latino jejejeje.

But at the end, no matter how much effort we will put, ours kids would decide theirself which culture is more appealing for them, and I am guessing here, but I think they will become simply Americans. In the event, they feel a strong sense for Armenia, I will be more than pleased since it is the land of the woman I love, and above all you are a christian culture, which is very important to me.

You are right Jmm7, in Western US, in states like California there are parts you can go on without English and feel like you are part of Latin America. I think that is great, there are many enclaves in US that have ethnic connections and you can literally drive from one city to another to experience "world cultures" so do speak. This is a great thing, and we should not lose that, you are right about the choices though, the offspring of second, third generations etc. go with the "corporate American" culture, which is not based on real values but more of a commercialized consumer mindset, this is what I think is troubling, because this is not healthy in my humble opinion, and we are losing more time tested traditional values that traditional cultures embody and cherish.

I applaud your interest in Armenia, btw, you will find it that it is as much as open minded as any nation and country when it comes to other cultures and peoples. Most important in all of this is a healthy balance, to know about your heritage and also learn from other cultures that are just as valuable.

[Anoush]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

I am so pleased that we can talk and agree in most point of views.

Just one thing. Never crossed my mind that the majority of you guys abused physically your wives. God forbid it. However is some degree that happened in all cultures.

No jmm, I didn't say that the majority of our men physically abuse their wives. I know that my father didn't do it and neither my grandfather nor three of my uncles. I believe that the majority of Armenian men do not abuse their wives or children. If a few do, so does every other nationality. I also said above that you DO NOT hear any Armenian man ever making headlines of killing their wives or their children. I still maintain that Armenian men are good breadwinners and they love their families and their children.

[Armanen]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

I am so pleased that we can talk and agree in most point of views.

Just one thing. Never crossed my mind that the majority of you guys abused physically your wives. God forbid it. However is some degree that happened in all cultures.

Yes, it happens in all countries and among all peoples. I know that machismo is an issue in Latin America as well, especially in Mexico and Argentina.

[jmm7]

Let me ask you though, would you put the effort to learn and preserve both of your cultures (as far as I understood you are Latino which has a cultural richness of its own without any doubt).

Absolutely!, Actually, no that I am gonna married this girl but if I'd do, I will be more than please to spend some time in Armenia, and of course in my country, and honestly more in Armenia since here there are a LOT of latino jejejeje.

But at the end, no matter how much effort we will put, ours kids would decide theirself which culture is more appealing for them, and I am guessing here, but I think they will become simply Americans. In the event, they feel a strong sense for Armenia, I will be more than pleased since it is the land of the woman I love, and above all you are a christian culture, which is very important to me.

Jmm7, Frankly both your sentences and point of views are well taken and are said. You are right; all that are greatly concerned about assimilation, at least 80-90% should repatriate to Armenia. The other way is to buy a house or a condo in there and visit about a few months back and forth, or another option is to invest in a business in there and also buy a house and continue to visit.

Although not all Armenian men astray or mistreat their wives and families; I'd like to think that a mere quarter do, the same as in any other nationality. However the less done in our nationality the better, for more reasons not to divorce or to have assimilation problems. I would like to stress here that usually I don't hear Armenian men killing their wives or their children as I hear from a great many other nationalities. Armenian men don't make headlines to that effect. Yes perhaps a few mistreat their wives and familes and astray, but I believe that applies to all men. In every nationality, not just Armenian. I believe that in most respects, Armenian men still make good family figures. To the girls who are soooo particular when it comes to chosing an Armenian life partner vs. to other nationalities; then I would go along with Armanen and say good riddance with them. If you wish not to assymilate in any gender, then you do your best not to.

I am so pleased that we can talk and agree in most point of views.

Just one thing. Never crossed my mind that the majority of you guys abused physically your wives. God forbid it. However is some degree that happened in all cultures.

[Anoush]

I can understand your feelings, and this I think you Armenians guys should do to preserve your culture:


1. All of you that are profoundly concern about the continuity of the Armenian culture, and live in the USA, should get back as soon as possible to Armenia. It make no sense that you are here wanted to preserve you culture in a country that don't care to much about it, except to declare some holidays and party about it.

2. All men should improve the way you treat your women. Otherwise, the Armenian girls will continue to look to your neighbor as serious option for life. For what I read in this forum, is so easy to sense the "macho" attitude in a lot of the you that write here. No matter what nationality, sooner or later girls will get tired of this behavior.

just my two cents.

Jmm7

Jmm7, Frankly both your sentences and point of views are well taken and are said. You are right; all that are greatly concerned about assimilation, at least 80-90% should repatriate to Armenia. The other way is to buy a house or a condo in there and visit about a few months back and forth, or another option is to invest in a business in there and also buy a house and continue to visit.

Although not all Armenian men astray or mistreat their wives and families; I'd like to think that a mere quarter do, the same as in any other nationality. However the less done in our nationality the better, for more reasons not to divorce or to have assimilation problems. I would like to stress here that usually I don't hear Armenian men killing their wives or their children as I hear from a great many other nationalities. Armenian men don't make headlines to that effect. Yes perhaps a few mistreat their wives and familes and astray, but I believe that applies to all men. In every nationality, not just Armenian. I believe that in most respects, Armenian men still make good family figures. To the girls who are soooo particular when it comes to chosing an Armenian life partner vs. to other nationalities; then I would go along with Armanen and say good riddance with them. If you wish not to assymilate in any gender, then you do your best not to.

I stand by what I say, that it is only and only in the interest of the same American culture to maintain its multicultural flavor.

Quite true Catharsis, America has been and is rich because of it. Every nation brought their seed and have made America what it has become through her 233 years of life from her inception. I maintain that although most Americans believe in total assimilation when living in this country, staying somewhat close to one's heritage, traditions and cultures will make individuals to be better human beings and serving to any given culture and nationality is far better than simply proclaiming to be Americans and solely thinking of themselves, their wealth, their decadent indulgences and will become more self-serving and selfcentered individuals.

[Catharsis]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

hi Catharsis

Of course that the same thought applies for any culture, including latinos. If one of them is so radical about its culture I think he or she should go back to its country.
I think any culture can try to preserve its traditions here in USA, but it will be frustration after frustration, since sooner or later, someone of the new generation is going to start finding that people from other cultures are interesting.
That happens in any culture.

It happened to me! I found this Armenian person so interesting, and this persons seems to be a lot different from the majority here in forum. Why do you think is different?

Yes Jmm7, I understand what you mean and ultimately agree with you that there should be at least a bond between the Homeland and the Diasporans if they are to maintain their identity and repatriation is not a bad alternative.

Let me ask you though, would you put the effort to learn and preserve both of your cultures (as far as I understood you are Latino which has a cultural richness of its own without any doubt). I think ultimately, the offspring in all probability would embrace an "amorphous" American culture which is quite generic and changes over time. I stand by what I say, that it is only and only in the interest of the same American culture to maintain its multicultural flavor. From an Armenian perspective you are right, we need to think and not forget that we do have an obligation to that culture and Homeland that gave birth to it and where the roots of this culture lie and need to be watered in their own right if the Tree of Life is to survive and blossom.

[Armanen]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

hi Catharsis

Of course that the same thought applies for any culture, including latinos. If one of them is so radical about its culture I think he or she should go back to its country.
I think any culture can try to preserve its traditions here in USA, but it will be frustration after frustration, since sooner or later, someone of the new generation is going to start finding that people from other cultures are interesting.
That happens in any culture.

It happened to me! I found this Armenian person so interesting, and this persons seems to be a lot different from the majority here in forum. Why do you think is different?

You are right that Armenians will have to return to Armenia in order to truly retain their 'Armenianess', but in the meantime they should try to marry Armenians only. As far as the girl you are talking about, it probably has to do with her family and upbringing, I guess they do not put as much emphasis on her being with an Armenian as they should have. Either way I can tell you that quality is more important than quantity, so if an Armenian isn't concerned about keeping their culture and not assimilating and they do not want to hear the reasons why this is important, well then good riddens they should assimilate. I am not saying this applies to the girl you like since I do not know her personaly but I do know the type and mentality of some of these people.

[jmm7]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

hi Catharsis

Of course that the same thought applies for any culture, including latinos. If one of them is so radical about its culture I think he or she should go back to its country.
I think any culture can try to preserve its traditions here in USA, but it will be frustration after frustration, since sooner or later, someone of the new generation is going to start finding that people from other cultures are interesting.
That happens in any culture.

It happened to me! I found this Armenian person so interesting, and this persons seems to be a lot different from the majority here in forum. Why do you think is different?

[Catharsis]

Re: Any of you is married to a Mexican or Latin people?

I can understand your feelings, and this I think you Armenians guys should do to preserve your culture:


1. All of you that are profoundly concern about the continuity of the Armenian culture, and live in the USA, should get back as soon as possible to Armenia. It make no sense that you are here wanted to preserve you culture in a country that don't care to much about it, except to declare some holidays and party about it.

2. All men should improve the way you treat your women. Otherwise, the Armenian girls will continue to look to your neighbor as serious option for life. For what I read in this forum, is so easy to sense the "macho" attitude in a lot of the you that write here. No matter what nationality, sooner or later girls will get tired of this behavior.

just my two cents.

Jmm7

Jmm7, as I said above, diversity is what makes America stronger (and this is not what I say, but is virtually a doctrine of United States), so what you are saying does not correspond to the multiculturalism. Its like saying if Latinos want their Spanish history and culture subjects in their schools and want to preserve their identity in the US they have to somehow go back to Latin America? If someone says this to Latinos they would immediately say that it is just plain racism (and rightly so) in the light of the above model of multiculturalism that US prides itself upon.

I hope you can reverse the perspective and view it not with Armenians but with any of the ethnic groups that make up the richness that is the United States of America.