Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

That's a great idea and I agree with it, but it's not practical. Why? Because even back then, the 3/5ths compromise was because many states had MORE slaves than slave owners in the entire STATE they can't pay them all back.

It could be repayment in the form of education, grants, school system, community improvements, entrepreneurial funds, etc. This would also come with an outright apology so that today's generation could be made aware of why they are in the condition they are today. One successful president and a couple rappers and athletes doesn't make up for the majority that live in poverty.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

Yes, but marriage is when two hearts fit together. Think about the vows of most services. They don't say: now you can insert your **** into her ****. They focus on love and commitment. Homosexual/bisexual people are capable of that. It's that marriage represents the bond two lovers share. They want to have that bond just like everybody else that opts to marry.

You can disagree with the actual act of sexual portion -- however, that argument is even outside marriage. Even religious groups don't always practice what they preach: many "religious" people do not wait til marriage before having sex.

Therefore, that entire argument went out the window way back in history. (I'm talking the reformation here of Lutheran in the 16th century!!)

It's basic English language. If the parts don't fit, they can't marry. You can call it a union but not a marriage. You'll find many cultures who don't believe in the man made notion of "love".

[Tali]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

It could be repayment in the form of education, grants, school system, community improvements, entrepreneurial funds, etc. This would also come with an outright apology so that today's generation could be made aware of why they are in the condition they are today. One successful president and a couple rappers and athletes doesn't make up for the majority that live in poverty.

Hmm..
repayment in the form of education: that attempt was with Brown v. Board of Education court cases (there were 2)
grants: they already exist for being African American, there's college completely devoted to the race as well
school system: both top two apply. there's also scholarships, forums, leadership seminars in which preliminary is you have to be African American...
community improvements: this is trickier. government can't particularly back a certain race. In addition to the question of ethics, there's also the question of money. Just never is enough or too many organizations misuse what they have; or like in CA, only recently was there a proposition to vote on in which we are forcing the state budget committee to get their work done ON TIME. so we don't know how much $ we're working with anyway.
entrepreneural funds: these also exist, mostly in the form of scholarships in order to benefit specifically a minority group. otherwise, these have to obtained based on the material of study.
outright apology: this has occurred, and further, we have a "Black History Month." Blacks' history is a requirement for all students to learn, including elementary students in America. Whereas say Hispanic is an optional course when you get to college.

[Tali]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

It's basic English language. If the parts don't fit, they can't marry. You can call it a union but not a marriage. You'll find many cultures who don't believe in the man made notion of "love".

The main dictionary that scholars use is Webster-Merriam. Here is their definition of marriage:
a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage> b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage
2: an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities
3: an intimate or close union <the marriage of painting and poetry — J. T. Shawcross>



Further, same sex marriage already exists. That's why you see it in that definition.
http://gaylife.about.com/od/samesexm...gaymarriag.htm

[Yedtarts]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

Any pervert can take his perversion and classify it then give it a fancy name. As long as he could find some supporters it should become legal? And of course, if you can find idiots that think they are really “vampires” then it should be very easy to find all kind of perverts to support any kind of perversion.

[Tali]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

Any pervert can take his perversion and classify it then give it a fancy name. As long as he could find some supporters it should become legal? And of course, if you can find idiots that think they are really “vampires” then it should be very easy to find all kind of perverts to support any kind of perversion.

That's actually how Christianity started kinda pops your bubble when you know the history especially how "straight marriage" really started.

oh, that whole vampire thing also exists. yet the straight couples can marry

[KanadaHye]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

The main dictionary that scholars use is Webster-Merriam. Here is their definition of marriage:
a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage> b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage
2: an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities
3: an intimate or close union <the marriage of painting and poetry — J. T. Shawcross>



Further, same sex marriage already exists. That's why you see it in that definition.
http://gaylife.about.com/od/samesexm...gaymarriag.htm

Well, as you know law books are just a bunch of double talk that mold words into whatever tricky language that only lawyers can make sense of.

In manufacturing, we use the term marriage when fitting two parts that were designed to fit together like an inner skin and outer skin of a hood.

Marry - to fit together or align (two things); join

If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.

So my question is, what is your objection of defining hetero contracts as marriage and homo contracts as unions?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

oh, that whole vampire thing also exists. yet the straight couples can marry

Only in people's heads do vampires exist.

[Tali]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

Well, as you know law books are just a bunch of double talk that mold words into whatever tricky language that only lawyers can make sense of.

In manufacturing, we use the term marriage when fitting two parts that were designed to fit together like an inner skin and outer skin of a hood.

Marry - to fit together or align (two things); join

If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.

So my question is, what is your objection of defining hetero contracts as marriage and homo contracts as unions?

merriam-webster is not a law book. it's a dictionary. it's what we give to people to go look up words they don't know in english. not restricted to a certain field.

in my personal opinion, unions already exist. i believe it was you who mentioned that even two guys who are straight can get all the benefits by saying they're in a union while still living a playboy lifestyle. that's not marriage. marriage is commitment to each other. a union doesn't imply that at all. a "civil union" as they're called are just contracts. it has no meaning to it. it doesn't matter if you love the other person or even in a relationship with them. it's your cop out to just get the tax benefits. although both of us know many people that do marry for that reason, we also know that's not why marriage exists.

[Tali]

Re: Gegev and Yedtarts mostly, others want to voice something on my bisexuality?

Only in people's heads do vampires exist.

it's a cult that sharpens their teeth and drinks blood and all that stuff. because they do that they're considered "vampires." doesn't mean they're born that way. so technically they exist, but not in the fabled sense.