I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

[Mos]

Re: I am Azery and GAY. Not sure if feminine, masculine.

And which "great" nation accepted homosexuality first and now is that proud ... being the first?

probably greeks - they talk about it in their ancient literature

[gegev]

Re: I am Azeri and GAY. Not sure if feminine or masculine.

probably greeks - they talk about it in their ancient literature

Did they accept it officially or just talked about sarcastically? Any backup on that?

[Mos]

Re: I am Azeri and GAY. Not sure if feminine or masculine.

Did they accept it officially or just talked about sarcastically? Any backup on that?

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[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Which non-African country officially treated blacks equally? Countries don't treat human rights issues this way, do they? I haven't heard of it anyway... And that is what we're talking about here: human rights.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Which non-African country officially treated blacks equally? Countries don't treat human rights issues this way, do they? I haven't heard of it anyway... And that is what we're talking about here: human rights.

Haiti? They were and still are equally slaves Human rights are political talking points in societies that are segregated by class.

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Haiti? They were and still are equally slaves Human rights are political talking points in societies that are segregated by class.

Yes, there are large class differences. I'm not talking about those things though they are important. What we are talking about is a more basic human right. What if we told the lower class that they can't have a legally recognized marriage? This is really not very different.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

Yes, there are large class differences. I'm not talking about those things though they are important. What we are talking about is a more basic human rights. What if we told the lower class that they can't have a legally recognized marriage? This is really not very different.

The lower class have nothing to gain from a legally recognized marriage which is why most of them have kids out of wedlock. They are sort of exempt from the laws that bind the middle class.

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

The lower class have nothing to gain from a legally recognized marriage which is why most of them have kids out of wedlock. They are sort of exempt from the laws that bind the middle class.

It's not for you or anyone else to decide whether marriage is sufficiently valuable to any person or group.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

It's not for you or anyone else to decide whether marriage is sufficiently valuable to any person or group.

? Marriage is about the merger of property and belongings. Poor people have nothing! Why would they need to "get married"?

[Siggie]

Re: I am Armenian and GAY. Not feminine, just masculine.

? Marriage is about the merger of property and belongings. Poor people have nothing! Why would they need to "get married"?

I hope you mean that's the legal impact at least. Even that is an understatement, but less so...