What Do Men Want In A Relationship?

[hyebruin]

There will be no doubting. I AM a great guy, and anyone who disagrees is an idiot. Thank you. You can join the Baronagan sect if you wish. You can PM me for details on that.

No but seriously, what I don't get is how you still don't get that what you were saying was just as rude/immature as my reply to it.

yes, your excellency, like i said why don't you come down to l.a. then you'll see what i and many other females are talking about

[anileve]

No one over dramatized, the decline and fall of every society can be seen in its internal structure, such as family as one of them. This is a common listing of all society on a macrohistoric scale. It isn't all too hard. I don't see the point of your post, for it doesn't address any key point I referred to. By the way, no one forces girls to be strippers or porn stars, certainly not "society". Morals begin at home, and any child, boy or girl, that comes from a defunct home where he she has not received proper moral backing on whats right and wrong, only after becomes a target of society. The home and family are where we are forged, not "society" at large.

And may I ask what is your family part of? Could it be the "Society" perhaps? My post directly addressed all of your key points, you just chose to ignore it. The responsibility of a woman to establish a unity that you emphasize so much, without acknowledging other causes of divorce, in which case you make men seem angelic and detached of any blame.

And women are forced, not all but many. I suggest you read the papers once in a while, the national and the international section. Women are bought, sold and enslaved in many other countries. And young women in the US are abused by their boyfriends which represent "GODS" to them, and forced into prostitution as a mean to save the relationship, which they as females must nurture.

[sSsflamesSs]

i guess we must have more psych majors on the forum
are you people even reading these posts?? sheeesh! fine "he's a great guy the greatest there ever was!!" all this 'blind devotion' is amazing ....do all of you hold this high school mentality? geeeezzz!!

why don't you try to be a bit more objective and read the context and not flip back and forth to see who posted what!

1. I am not a Psychology major.

2. YOU'RE the one who is obviously blinded by subjectivity. I have read every post in this thread, yours and Baron's included. However, my post was based on the ideas in the posts, and not the authors. That is why I said I respect Baron very much, so far, meaning that he has not done anything yet (including the posts he wrote to you as a reply) to lose my respect for him.

[Anonymouse]

well, how else is a woman supposed to secure her place in this world? by blindly trusting a man who may leave or even die? so you would prefer a non-educated woman who stays at home and follows orders or someone who is intellectually compatible with you who can still be a good wife and a mother? when you say "going after her career" that implies education, no? i'm getting confused i mean everyone has got to be self-sufficient before they can care for a family! if a woman has the tools that will help her survive in this world then she can make the decision of whether she wants to stay home and raise the kids or perhaps work only part time...it's not easy especially these days when 2 income families are not just extra money but a necessity!

Why, in God's green earth, do you assume that if someone chooses a home and family, over a mind numbing career of material utopia, that she is not intelligent or somehow nothing bot a mindless robot? Stop making silly assumptions, to all you women. You assume that only via a career is someone "educated" and on an intellectual quotient to then be liked by a man. I have news for you ladies. Men, especially men who want to settle down, do not like the independent, domineering career woman types, hence the divorce rate, hence why 'no good men left'. What you are describing is the modus operandi of the Statist-Capitalist system that requires everyone to be functioning drones. Moreover, it's the expensive lifestyle of California. I don't hear of people with the complains in other States, since it is not as hectice or costly to live there. But there is no question that it is your choice whether you want to raise your family, or be in a career. Choice is the key word, I was only referring the deleterious effects these changes have had on the family, that is all.

[sSsflamesSs]

Girls, GIRLS! Don't you understand??? He's not going to change his stance. It's a personal issue, so just let it be!

[Anonymouse]

And may I ask what is your family part of? Could it be the "Society" perhaps? My post directly addressed all of your key points, you just chose to ignore it. The responsibility of a woman to establish a unity that you emphasize so much, without acknowledging other causes of divorce, in which case you make men seem angelic and detached of any blame.

And women are forced, not all but many. I suggest you read the papers once in a while, the national and the international section. Women are bought, sold and enslaved in many other countries. And young women in the US are abused by their boyfriends which represent "GODS" to them, and forced into prostitution as a mean to save the relationship, which they as females must nurture.

Well "DUH" we are part of society. That is obvious, don't you think? I was saying that who we are and who we are raised to be, begins at home, in the family. Children are a product of that family. When the family neglects those kids, then you have influences such as television or "society" being their guide.

By the way, I didn't say women had a choice in being stolen for slavery, that is an unfortunate thing we live with. I was referring to the adult industry. No one forces them to be a stripper or porn star. You blame me for making men seem angelic, which I did not do, knowing full well there are men who are not angelic, yet you try to intentionally paint men as the evil ones. It seems to me that what you're saying is to free girls, once and for all, from guilt for their actions, and to load that guilt onto the hapless male population, when initially you were talking about "2 to tango", since parents comprise of a mother and father, and if something is wrong with the family, you have a bad seeds, boy or girl. It seems you constantly contradict your position. So which is it?

Respectfully

[Anonymouse]

Girls, GIRLS! Don't you understand??? He's not going to change his stance. It's a personal issue, so just let it be!

Who said anything about change? Why do you assume that this is about 'changing stances'. I certainly didn't state my views for any of you to change. I don't care. It's your life and your choices. But thanks for the air of rationality. Cheers.

[anileve]

Men, especially men who want to settle down, do not like the independent, domineering career woman types, hence the divorce rate, hence why 'no good men left.

OKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW, LET'S SEE, DOES THIS LOOK LIKE YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE TO YOU?????!!!!!!!!! In the above statement you are no longer declaring your personal likes and dislikes, you are clearly generalizing all men, you act as if you are the representative of your gender. What is more, you yourself are tapping into a psychology role. Anon, for goodness sake, don't be a hypocrite, and stop denying and claiming that others are harping on you without any consideration for your opinion

[anileve]

Girls, GIRLS! Don't you understand??? He's not going to change his stance. It's a personal issue, so just let it be!

Read my previous post, this is why I continue. He acts as a representative of his gender and then wonders why women are bothered by his own preference of his perfect partner. If those are his views, then so be it, but to say that "ALL MEN" is plain arrogant and ridiculous!

[Anonymouse]

OKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW, LET'S SEE, DOES THIS LOOK LIKE YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE TO YOU?????!!!!!!!!! In the above statement you are no longer declaring your personal likes and dislikes, you are clearly generalizing all men, you act as if you are the representative of your gender. What is more, you yourself are tapping into a psychology role. Anon, for goodness sake, don't be a hypocrite, and stop denying and claiming that others are harping on you without any consideration for your opinion

Oh wow, compare that to all the generalizations you've made, I would be here all night chastising you. Stop with that hang up please. It's not becoming. If I were to chastise you constantly for all your generalizations, and criticize you the same you the same way you do to me, you wouldn't like it, yet why do you bother with a "chauvinist" "narrow minded" person like me?