Virgin or Experienced?

[IvyLipstick]

awwww there there, here's a tissue...

You need some whipping again?

[hyebruin]

You need some whipping again?

brattttt!!!!

[Genuine_Stud]

You need some whipping again?

You should change your lipstick brand. That Ivy flavor is making you say stuff that other people don't like.

[maroon]

A virgin is someone who hasn’t had sexual intercourse…be it a man or a woman. You can’t always tell if a woman is a virgin or not because the hymen can break by using tampons, riding a horse/bike etc. Oh my was that too graphic?

[HyeJinx1984]

Virginity is actually a very ridiculous term, in fact sexologists (yes... that's a real profession) don't use that word EVER because it cann't be defined. A perosn is a virgin until they have intercourse? Well what about oral sex? does a person loose their virginity after giving a certain amount of head? It's absurd... virginity is an ancient term which is no longer used academicly, and really makes no sense using otherwise either.

In my opinion, the idea percieved as 'virginity' is just a hurdle to get over. For some reason men like having their women be virgins at marriage. Good for them I suppose, but my opinion things tend to move smoother when two people in a relationship are of equal sexual experience.

[loseyourname]

For some reason men like having their women be virgins at marriage. Good for them I suppose, but my opinion things tend to move smoother when two people in a relationship are of equal sexual experience.

What men are these? Granted, I don't know any Armenian men, but no man I've ever known would prefer to marry a virgin.

[dusken]

So whats the eternal allure with virginity? How old were you when you lost your virginity and did you feel like crap? I hope you did, because I didn't. So how important is this? Most of the worlds religions seem to think it is important. Secular society doesn't care for the "wait till marriage" stuff, so what's the big deal? Why not devirginize everyone when they are, say, 8? I want some opinions, I want some thoughts dammit. This thread has started with some innocent virgin questions, and by the time it is closed by the moderators it needs to lose its virginity, so let's dig deep within

Regardless of my feelings, resulting from societal conditioning, I think that the ideal would be for everyone to have sex when they want to have sex as liberally as they want. The taboo connotation should be displaced entirely from the idea of sex. And, although I cannot do it myself, I do feel that ideally sexual polygamy would be accepted as normal.

[HyeJinx1984]

What men are these? Granted, I don't know any Armenian men, but no man I've ever known would prefer to marry a virgin.

That's what I said "for some reason men like having their women be virgins at marriage" implying that the majority of men WANT Virgins, while in reality, from what I've seen, relationships run smoother when two people are of the same sexual experience. Sorry if I wasn't clearer

[dusken]

I would not want a virgin and I have many friends that feel the same way. I would want to have sex with her before marriage to know that we are truly sexually compatible. I would like her to be experienced enough in that I would not have to instruct her beyond my personal likes and dislikes. Also, I would think that experience would decrease curiosity and would, in turn, decrease the chances of infidelity.

[ckBejug]

Goodness, for a second there I thought I was at the rodeo, there's so much bullsh!t being thrown around in here! I can't imagine why this term should be so difficult to understand. As with a lot of things in life it's not very easily defined, but then why should it? I'd personally rather not fit into a neat little definition set forth by, who? society? which society? religion? which religion? etc... I don't think a dictionary should be consulted to define anything that goes on between two people who are very much in lust or in love, etc. Whatever you do and whoever you do it with/ did it with should be your business and yours alone. End of story. It also shouldn't be a determining factor in relationships or anything else for that matter. For example, you go out with a girl who claims to be a virgin according to such and such dictionary's definition of 'virgin'. Turns out she's had oral sex. Is she a virgin still? Turns out she's also had anal sex. Is she a virgin still? Her hymen is intact, so three cheers, she's 'officially' a virgin. Right??

First of all, anyone who is having anal sex because that will allow her to retain the title 'virgin' is just decieving herself and any future guys she's going to have a relationship with. What a great lie to base a relationship on, right? I think a lot of that stuff wouldn't happen if it wasn't such a taboo, especially in the Armenian community, for girls to have sex before they get married. I don't get it at all. I mean if you're discreet and safe and take every precaution, etc, and don't go around the block with every other guy and be a wh0re about it, then why the heck not? Why do you have to lie about it and/or cover it up and be deceptive instead of being open and honest and telling whoever your future husband is that yeah you've had sex with someone and it meant something at the time but that was then and this is now and get on with your life?

I give all female examples because I know- through my guy friends, my ex, and my current bf, all Armenian- that it's not such an OH MY GOD! bad thing when you hear that a guy has had sex before. It's a fact of life, they were with girls for a certain amount of time, or heck even just met them in some cases, and they had sex. Big deal. I've never seen it as a 'bad' thing. In fact I'd probably prefer to be with someone who's had sex before, even if I'm waiting until I get married, or until I'm engaged at least. One of us has to know what to do, right? I also find it terribly sexy for someone to teach you new things.

I also know that just as I'd love to have sex with only someone I'm terribly in love with, other people don't find such things necessary and can have meaningful, great sex nonetheless, why the heck not??? I can't imagine that anyone in here can come up with any kind of valid reasoning.

So whats the eternal allure with virginity? How old were you when you lost your virginity and did you feel like crap? I hope you did, because I didn't. So how important is this? Most of the worlds religions seem to think it is important. Secular society doesn't care for the "wait till marriage" stuff, so what's the big deal? Why not devirginize everyone when they are, say, 8? I want some opinions, I want some thoughts dammit. This thread has started with some innocent virgin questions, and by the time it is closed by the moderators it needs to lose its virginity, so let's dig deep within

Mousey, shouldn't you be the one enlightening us about the allure of a girl who is a virgin when it comes time to get married? From what I recall you were an advocate of that. Weren't you?