Virgin or Experienced?

[hyebruin]

one thing to keep in mind is that virginity does not necessarily imply "innocense" since one can have lustful thoughts and desires and still not have kissed anyone. virginity is more often a combination of self-discipline/opportunity/family dynamics/strong role models in life/significant people or friends who influence you...etc.
it is very complex!

[dusken]

it is very complex!

It is!? Oh! Okay! Glad you told me!

[violette829]

"...and he who saith "thou shalt" to me is my mortal foe!"

Ok...I'm not a Satanist! I know I have sinned..and I will never doubt that God is going to be the ultimate judge when it comes to my destiny. However, I will NEVER listen to the words of a mortal, with the same urges and the same ability to commits sins....that's just STUPID! This is why I don't believe in a church heirarchy.

Emil,

::no one saw me here::

[XxgoeyxX]

You know, I don't know if any of you agree with me, but I am sick and tired of people telling me what I can/can't/should/shouldn't do with my own body. What right does another HUMAN BEING with the same immoral past/present/future as I have to tell me that I'm being wrong in my choices to do what I want to/with my body. My body is a beautiful creation for ME to enjoy, and it's not up to society or anyone to tell me how to "keep it sacred". I believe there are far bigger problems in the world to deal with, such as divorce and domestic violence, that we can't linger on the mere "idea" of a woman's virginity. Yes, so the woman stays a "virgin" until her wedding night. What happens when 5 months down the line, the husband decides that he does not enjoy sex with his wife. The fact that they are not compatible sexually is SO HUGE when it comes to the well being of a marriage. If you do not touch, feel, caress, and cherish every part of your girlfriend/fiance's body, how do you know that you are going to enjoy it when you do? To live strictly by the bible, one must let go of EVERY SINGLE concept that has shaped existence. There are many beliefs in the bible that we CAN'T live by, for it will interfere with everything we've ever learned. I am a Christian, and I do believe in the bible, but the idea of sitting down and disecting every single scripture just for the sake of arguing makes me want to tear my liver out and feed it to a shark. This will never end. I say, it's up to every relationship and every person to find their way in life. There is no ideal relationship that we must strive for. If my future husband is going to judge me based on decisions and mistakes in the past, then I don't think I'll ever get married. LOL This is why I choose to be single. Why do men say that women are headaches? LOL Yea, take a look in the mirror guys...you are the CAUSE of it all!

P.S. the last sentence was a joke. Please do not get your panties twisted.

I totally Understand what you are saying. And I was not in any way trying to tell you what to do with your body. (IF this comment was for me that is). the only reason I wrote that was because I wanted people to stop talking about the Bible and what it says without understand it. Like I said before it is your business and your belieft. And these are mine. I have no judgement to place on you or any other women or MEN who have or will have sex. There is no need for me to say anything about that. Nor is it my business to tell anyone what is right or wrong for them.

"To live strictly by the bible, one must let go of EVERY SINGLE concept that has shaped existence."
It is impossible for us to live by every single concept. We are human and we make mistake. The Bible is there to help us and to guide us to where WE will reach God. Nothing more nothing less....in basic terms.


"My body is a beautiful creation for ME to enjoy, and it's not up to society or anyone to tell me how to "keep it sacred". "
Society might tell you to keep it sacred without understand what it is saying. Only the Bible states you must keep it sacred. Humans just took that writting and twist it for their own beliefs.


And one more thing. Just as you dont like when people judge because you are not a virgin. I dont not like when people judge me becaue I am. I think in these days a women who is a virgin is spotted as an Outkast..As if she is weird for being a virgin. See my dear you have your issues on this and so do I. And we are both trying to make others understand.

[gevo]

You know, I don't know if any of you agree with me, but I am sick and tired of people telling me what I can/can't/should/shouldn't do with my own body. What right does another HUMAN BEING with the same immoral past/present/future as I have to tell me that I'm being wrong in my choices to do what I want to/with my body. My body is a beautiful creation for ME to enjoy, and it's not up to society or anyone to tell me how to "keep it sacred". I believe there are far bigger problems in the world to deal with, such as divorce and domestic violence, that we can't linger on the mere "idea" of a woman's virginity. Yes, so the woman stays a "virgin" until her wedding night. What happens when 5 months down the line, the husband decides that he does not enjoy sex with his wife. The fact that they are not compatible sexually is SO HUGE when it comes to the well being of a marriage. If you do not touch, feel, caress, and cherish every part of your girlfriend/fiance's body, how do you know that you are going to enjoy it when you do? To live strictly by the bible, one must let go of EVERY SINGLE concept that has shaped existence. There are many beliefs in the bible that we CAN'T live by, for it will interfere with everything we've ever learned. I am a Christian, and I do believe in the bible, but the idea of sitting down and disecting every single scripture just for the sake of arguing makes me want to tear my liver out and feed it to a shark. This will never end. I say, it's up to every relationship and every person to find their way in life. There is no ideal relationship that we must strive for. If my future husband is going to judge me based on decisions and mistakes in the past, then I don't think I'll ever get married. LOL This is why I choose to be single. Why do men say that women are headaches? LOL Yea, take a look in the mirror guys...you are the CAUSE of it all!

P.S. the last sentence was a joke. Please do not get your panties twisted.

I dont know if any of this has to do with anythign iv said, but it is important for you to udnerstand, that i was not judging, nor was i saying that "this is the way for you, you must do this". infact.. i made sure i cleared that up

::I saw you here::

[violette829]

I totally Understand what you are saying. And I was not in any way trying to tell you what to do with your body. (IF this comment was for me that is). the only reason I wrote that was because I wanted people to stop talking about the Bible and what it says without understand it. Like I said before it is your business and your belieft. And these are mine. I have no judgement to place on you or any other women or MEN who have or will have sex. There is no need for me to say anything about that. Nor is it my business to tell anyone what is right or wrong for them.

"To live strictly by the bible, one must let go of EVERY SINGLE concept that has shaped existence."
It is impossible for us to live by every single concept. We are human and we make mistake. The Bible is there to help us and to guide us to where WE will reach God. Nothing more nothing less....in basic terms.


"My body is a beautiful creation for ME to enjoy, and it's not up to society or anyone to tell me how to "keep it sacred". "
Society might tell you to keep it sacred without understand what it is saying. Only the Bible states you must keep it sacred. Humans just took that writting and twist it for their own beliefs.


And one more thing. Just as you dont like when people judge because you are not a virgin. I dont not like when people judge me becaue I am. I think in these days a women who is a virgin is spotted as an Outkast..As if she is weird for being a virgin. See my dear you have your issues on this and so do I. And we are both trying to make others understand.

I don't recall stating that I wasn't a virgin.

[Anonymouse]

I think all the religious types in here were pretty clear and explicit in their posts about how everyone has the ability, the free will to choose his or her own actions and nothing was forced down anyone's throat. But my guess is, the people who usually accuse religion of "judging me" and "telling me what to do", are running out of excuses so they will use it again and again.

[violette829]

My post wasn't meant for anyone specific. Please understand that I was talking about people in general, who like to judge.

[XxgoeyxX]

I don't recall stating that I wasn't a virgin.

LOLL. I knew you were going to say that. I was waiting for you responds on that. I and totally forgot to state if you are on not. My apologizes!

[violette829]

I think all the religious types in here were pretty clear and explicit in their posts about how everyone has the ability, the free will to choose his or her own actions and nothing was forced down anyone's throat. But my guess is, the people who usually accuse religion of "judging me" and "telling me what to do", are running out of excuses so they will use it again and again.

LOL My work here is done.