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  • #1

    The Indigenous Armenian Culture

    I really need this question to be answered by an either FULL-ARMENIAN or ARMENIAN-AMERICAN. I have just recently started dating a caring gentleman who was born and raised in L.A. but whose parents are from Armenia. Even though I've never met his parents, I know that they are very religious and do not condone him getting into a serious relationship with a non-Armenian girl. In fact, he is not allowed to bring a girl of any nationality to his parents' home. I know for a fact that Armenians are extremely indigenous to their culture. They are usually against marriage between an Armenian and a non-Armenian. I was wondering why that is so? Especially, out here in in Los Angeles where so many cultures clash. Someone told me that Armenians can date anyone they want, but when it comes to getting into a serious relationship with possibility of marriage in the end, they back away because (apperantly) the Armenian girl's/boy's parents who love their nation to pieces taught them not to mix their culture with any other. I would really like to know why even nowadays it has to be that way. Cultural appreciation is one thing, but why take it to the pathological level? Is it really that hard to use your heart as your compass?

    I haven't spoken to my special friend in almost a week. I'm afraid to call him because I suspect the reality of what I have just explained. I also feel discriminated against. I don't wanna feel that way, but right now that's exactly how I feel. Maybe I should also mention that my friend has once brought a girl (she was his girlfriend of 1 1/2 years) home to his parents. Needless to say, his parents were not delighted at all. In fact, his mom caused a scene.
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    Re: The Indigenous Armenian Culture

    Marina, in small cultures such as Armenians, you will often find alot of what modernity calls "xenophobia". However, if you look at it within the perspective of Armenians, that is only natural. It is only natural for people to want to stick to their own, continue their bloodline, and their culture.

    Aside from the fact that Armenians are a small people, historically their size and lands have gradually eroded. Historically they have always lost their wars, been persecuted and occupied and to top things off, nearly decimated by the Turkish state.

    When you study Armenian history and culture, it would become more understandable why they are so 'to themselves'. It is not different from Jeews, or Asians or Indians or anyone else who has an ethnically conscious of themselves.

    Now I understand in the United States, there has been somewhat of a melange between cultures and races, and Armenians have also been part of this changing fashion. Many Armenians have mixed and intermarried and this trend is growing.

    I don't know what advice to give you so I am not going to pretend I am. Marriage or being with someone seriously is not a joke. Often people try to play it off as somehow 'if two people love each other why does the family care?', but that is not the way it is. You don't just marry that person, you marry their family and everyone else. That is the way it goes. It comes with the territory.
    Last edited by Anonymouse; 04-24-2006, 10:09 PM.
    Achkerov kute.

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    • #3
      Re: The Indigenous Armenian Culture

      Originally posted by Anonymouse
      Marina, in small cultures such as Armenians, you will often find alot of what modernity calls "xenophobia". However, if you look at it within the perspective of Armenians, that is only natural. It is only natural for people to want to stick to their own, continue their bloodline, and their culture.

      Aside from the fact that Armenians are a small people, historically their size and lands have gradually eroded. Historically they have always lost their wars, been persecuted and occupied and to top things off, nearly decimated by the Turkish state.

      When you study Armenian history and culture, it would become more understandable why they are so 'to themselves'. It is not different from Jeews, or Asians or Indians or anyone else who has an ethnically conscious of themselves.

      Now I understand in the United States, there has been somewhat of a melange between cultures and races, and Armenians have also been part of this changing fashion. Many Armenians have mixed and intermarried and this trend is growing.

      I don't know what advice to give you so I am not going to pretend I am. Marriage or being with someone seriously is not a joke. Often people try to play it off as somehow 'if two people love each other why does the family care?', but that is not the way it is. You don't just marry that person, you marry their family and everyone else. That is the way it goes. It comes with the territory.

      Does that mean I have the right and duty to impregnate your sister with my holy armenoid spermoza?

      Praise be Beavis, my lord and saviour, amen...

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        Re: The Indigenous Armenian Culture

        Anonymouse, thank you for your views on my problem. I still have the same unsolved problem, but thanks to you I know realize that when you marry the love of your life, you also marry their family. It will take a long time until I realize that Armenians will never accept a non-Armenian into their family.

        Many things that you have pointed out about Armenians in your post I did already know. As I am half-russian I knew all about the turkish-armenian war and their fear of going extinct. However, I did not know or at least seemed to be oblivious to the fact that an Armenian man or woman for that matter, will always, honor his/her parents and live according to their wishes. Am I right? Even if that means denying the person he/she is in love with because their non-Armenian.

        I'm not sure if you want to further discuss this, but maybe I should tell you how it all began with me and my special friend:
        We met about a year ago and started dating right away. At the time we were dating, I felt like I couldn't get into a relationship with him because I wasn't sure if I was gonna leave the country for a while and then come back. When I explained my situation to him, he was only little understanding. I tried to tell him that I really wanted to stay friends with him and keep in contact. It was hard for me to tell him all that because I didn't want to lose him as a friend. He said that in his mind, women and men can NEVER be friends. Later, he would change his mind and we continued seeing each other for a while on a platonic basis. Unfortunately, we lost touch again. Eventually, I ended up staying in L.A., but without him in my life. Months passed without any sign of him. Then just a couple of months ago he called me up, we went out and automatically started dating again. But only this time his friendship means more to me with each passing day. I'm longing to get into a serious relationship with him because he's a very caring young man and he knows how I like to be treated. I don't wanna face the fact that his parents don't even know that I exsist. Everytime we're together and someone from his family calls him on the cell phone, he tells them that his with "a friend". but when he gets a call from his friends, he doesn't mind speaking of me as "a lovely lady, special lady etc...

        My friend was born and raised here. He has never even been to Armenia. He knows little about his parents country. He once told me that his mom would like him to date Armenian girls. He doesn't tell me much about his family and what they expect of him. And frankly, I'm too scared to start that topic. All I know is that when he once (and he really only did this once) brought his then non-armenian girlfriend of 1 1/2 years home to his parents, his mom caused a scene. I am speculating, but she probably forbat him to bring home another non-armenian girl. Currently, that's exactly the kind of unpleasant sitiation I am fearing and would like to avoid if I was ever to meet his parents. However, I am realistic, and think that I will probably never meet his parents. I don't even know if his parents know that we're currently dating or that I even exsist.

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        • #5
          Re: The Indigenous Armenian Culture

          Don't date Armenoids.

          Might as well get married to a Chechen...

          That's the only advice I'll give.

          Allright, rusky?


          P.S. My imbecile dipxxxx for a an Uncle Harout married a Yezidi xxxxx called Marin'e. Got divorced in a few months.

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          • #6
            Re: The Indigenous Armenian Culture

            listen you self-proclaimed parthiapride...First and foremost, I did NOT ask you for your advice. In fact, I was never gonna get into a serious discussion with you anyway. Maybe that's exactly why you are so pissed. I hope you'll soon find your man. Looks like right now you don't even have one. Don't worry crybaby, I hold no grudge against you. You shall live and be happy.

            For the record, I am not attracted to Chechens. However, I am VERY attracted to Armenians. Sorry!

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            • #7
              Re: The Indigenous Armenian Culture

              Last time I checked I'm a straight male.

              But I have been accused...

              I'm sorry. The ruskies back home not worthy of your affection? Too much dedovshina?



              Dvai, dvai hresh!

              What's wrong with Chechens? And how are they different than the average Armenoid scum dwelling in that xxxx hole called LA?

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              • #8
                Re: The Indigenous Armenian Culture

                parthian, cut it out man she is just a girl.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Indigenous Armenian Culture

                  Originally posted by Կարմիր Բ
                  parthian, cut it out man she is just a girl.
                  Shut up rusky.

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                  • #10
                    Re: The Indigenous Armenian Culture

                    Originally posted by parthiapride
                    Does that mean I have the right and duty to impregnate your sister with my holy armenoid spermoza?

                    Praise be Beavis, my lord and saviour, amen...

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