The 5 secrets to a Successful Relationship

[surferarmo]

From experience, not all, but most girls expect that all relationships will end and act very pessimisstic. Then they act as they were joking. Girls, is there a reason why you do this? (If you do it) It makes the guy feel like the company isnt wanted, and it inspires mistrust, and makes the guy pessimisstic in return.

I dunno what kind of girls YOU've been seeing... but I thought girls always think forever... lol
and I thought THAT's what makes you guys scared!!!
I've never heard of a girl who wants the relationship she's in to end!!
specially armenians...
or am I alone here girls?

They never say they think it is going to end. And yes, Armo chicks are mostly geared towards long term. They are pessimisstic not about us or about herself, but about my actions, and I have only noticed this in college. Almost like she expects me to treat her xxxxty. Maybe other guys have treated her like that, maybe she has been hurt really bad. Either way that mistrust gets me mad. I think when girls do that, they think it is going to motivates a guy, but it really doesnt. Even Fire agrees with me.

[sSsflamesSs]

jahannam i wouldn't touch you with a stick, I don't care if it's "free". So don't worry you're safe.

thats such crap....how dare u generalize in such a negative way? i dont consider a relationship something i only benefit from, thats absurd.
a relationship takes 2 people who both give and take equally

gorsenvadz you can lie to yourself all you want, but don't try to lie to me. The man always does a lot more, while the woman sits there inventing emotional goobledygook in her head and likes to pretend that is a contribution to the relationship.

Dude, you are seriously pissing me off.

What you said was a load of crap if I've ever heard one, or read one, in this case. How the hell can you say that the guy does more? In fact, the guy gets away with more xxxx than the girl on any day. The girl puts her all into the relationship, while the guy just acts like an immature idiot complaining like you do. Maybe your bitter words come from experience, but honey, in the majority of cases, that's not how it goes.

Here's an example. I have a career in mind for the near future, that's going to take a buttload of time, work, and dedication. That being said, I also plan to get married some day and have kids. Now who do you think is going to take care of the housework and kids, the husband??? I think not. Fact is, yea, I could hire a maid and babysitter, but what if I'm not able to afford those luxuries? What then? All I know is that most guys don't care as much about the relationship as the girls do. If that's not the case, then they sure want us to think so.

[sSsflamesSs]

Guys, don't start attacking me, saying that I am generalizing, but...you have to admit, that's what happens more often than not.

[sSsflamesSs]

From experience, not all, but most girls expect that all relationships will end and act very pessimisstic. Then they act as they were joking. Girls, is there a reason why you do this? (If you do it) It makes the guy feel like the company isnt wanted, and it inspires mistrust, and makes the guy pessimisstic in return.

I dunno what kind of girls YOU've been seeing... but I thought girls always think forever... lol
and I thought THAT's what makes you guys scared!!!
I've never heard of a girl who wants the relationship she's in to end!!
specially armenians...
or am I alone here girls?

They never say they think it is going to end. And yes, Armo chicks are mostly geared towards long term. They are pessimisstic not about us or about herself, but about my actions, and I have only noticed this in college. Almost like she expects me to treat her xxxxty. Maybe other guys have treated her like that, maybe she has been hurt really bad. Either way that mistrust gets me mad. I think when girls do that, they think it is going to motivates a guy, but it really doesnt. Even Fire agrees with me.

Surfer, from what you wrote, I take it that you're a caring guy that wants to make the relationship work. You have to understand, most girls have been mistreated before because most guys, I'm not saying all, but most do mistreat them. The girl is forced to use the pessimism as a defense tactic.

[surferarmo]

well i feel as tho im a natural born pessimist...wait no actually id say the glass is neither ½ empty or full cuz I drank what was in it …so i don’t really know what that makes me. :idea: As for when it comes to relationships I believe if it was meant to be it would somehow work out at the end

I will agree with patlajan on this one, in more agreeable terms of course. The meant to be stuff is something people use to evade responsibility. I am full aware that I do not have control of everything. The fact is, that when people say that, they just think they dont have to put in any effort. "Its meant to be" goes along with fate. Fate is something I believe in, BUT, you must understand that fate works through us and our decisions and interactions.

For instance, if someone bumps into you and yell at them and because of that, they get you new shoes. Lets take the same situation: you bump into them, but you say "its ok" and you both walk away. This is my idea, and most guys idea of fate. Fate is not the outcome. You were not meant to get shoes, you were not meant to not get shoes. Fate PUT you in the position, it put you in the situation, and gave you oportunity. I made a decision, whether to live in SC or LA this summer, I chose LA. As a result, I got a good job, I met a cool chick. Now, fate might have introduced us, but I believe, we make of it what we put in it. Fate gets us to where we need to be, the rest is up to us.

[sSsflamesSs]

Sorry, but I'm going to add another post to this thread, hehe.

I accused patlajan of speaking bitter words because of experience. Now I realize, my words are pretty similar also. I speak from observation, you know, watching friends and how messed up some of their boyfriends are. I'm very cautious when it comes to relationships. I guess that's my own defense tactic from getting hurt.

[surferarmo]

From experience, not all, but most girls expect that all relationships will end and act very pessimisstic. Then they act as they were joking. Girls, is there a reason why you do this? (If you do it) It makes the guy feel like the company isnt wanted, and it inspires mistrust, and makes the guy pessimisstic in return.

I dunno what kind of girls YOU've been seeing... but I thought girls always think forever... lol
and I thought THAT's what makes you guys scared!!!
I've never heard of a girl who wants the relationship she's in to end!!
specially armenians...
or am I alone here girls?

They never say they think it is going to end. And yes, Armo chicks are mostly geared towards long term. They are pessimisstic not about us or about herself, but about my actions, and I have only noticed this in college. Almost like she expects me to treat her xxxxty. Maybe other guys have treated her like that, maybe she has been hurt really bad. Either way that mistrust gets me mad. I think when girls do that, they think it is going to motivates a guy, but it really doesnt. Even Fire agrees with me.

Surfer, from what you wrote, I take it that you're a caring guy that wants to make the relationship work. You have to understand, most girls have been mistreated before because most guys, I'm not saying all, but most do mistreat them. The girl is forced to use the pessimism as a defense tactic.

ahh yes Flames. I can care. I do not treat all girls I meet with same respect. Respect is earned. I admit as does Omni, that I have seriously ruined things, and treated some chicks like crap. It is just now Guys start to change, and the roles switch almost. I could be wrong, but it is happening to most guys my age. I think I am putting this relationship stuff off for a while.

[sSsflamesSs]

well i feel as tho im a natural born pessimist...wait no actually id say the glass is neither ½ empty or full cuz I drank what was in it …so i don’t really know what that makes me. :idea: As for when it comes to relationships I believe if it was meant to be it would somehow work out at the end

I will agree with patlajan on this one, in more agreeable terms of course. The meant to be stuff is something people use to evade responsibility. I am full aware that I do not have control of everything. The fact is, that when people say that, they just think they dont have to put in any effort. "Its meant to be" goes along with fate. Fate is something I believe in, BUT, you must understand that fate works through us and our decisions and interactions.

For instance, if someone bumps into you and yell at them and because of that, they get you new shoes. Lets take the same situation: you bump into them, but you say "its ok" and you both walk away. This is my idea, and most guys idea of fate. Fate is not the outcome. You were not meant to get shoes, you were not meant to not get shoes. Fate PUT you in the position, it put you in the situation, and gave you oportunity. I made a decision, whether to live in SC or LA this summer, I chose LA. As a result, I got a good job, I met a cool chick. Now, fate might have introduced us, but I believe, we make of it what we put in it. Fate gets us to where we need to be, the rest is up to us.

Wow surfer, that's pretty good. I'm referring to your explanation.

[patlajan]

Here's an example. I have a career in mind for the near future, that's going to take a buttload of time, work, and dedication. That being said, I also plan to get married some day and have kids. Now who do you think is going to take care of the housework and kids, the husband??? I think not.

EXACTLY. These are all things that YOU want and we have to put up with. And do you think the freakin housework makes your partner's life more fun or enjoyable? NO. Constantly using "the kids" or any other nonsense you wanna invent so you can do anything but what your boyfriend/husband needs. We constantly put up and do things that you want us to, but when its time for you to do something it's "immature"or "stupid." Well that is sooooo convinient, that way you're always the hero and not the selfish person you really are.

[Anonymouse]

Not you, I'm talking about Jahscrotum.

Paty pat pat, don't stoop to Speaky's level.

Ever considered that maybe they are both the same?