Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I wouldnt expect "more" from you.

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Swiss prison:


Turkish prison:

TomServo, how dare you say such things about the great nation of Turkey???

You imbicile, you are a victim of western world propaganda... shame on you... don't you know there is nothing wrong with turkey? and to imply otherwise is just blasphemous.. i feel bad for you tom...

[TomServo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Do you know that if you express your above speech at Switzerland or France you will go to the jail?

Swiss prison:


Turkish prison:

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

by the fact that the armenian children were "brought up" by some turks which means there was no hate towards the race or anything.

p.s: alakasız olacak ama "doktorlar" dizisini görün? Ben youtube dan izliyorum ve en yeni bölümün sonunda Ela ya o deli garı bişey enjekde edecekdi, o ne bilin? Çok merak ettim, kızı sakat mı bırakacak, ne yapacak :S Bayıltıp kaçıracak galiba.

There were germans that helped xxxs, and kept them safe as much as they could....

Çok - hehe

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

yeah yea,I know what you mean but you should ignore some messages to a certain extent you are giving them great pleasure when you reply. I also realized something interesting in this forum which I want to share. Some armenians are being "oppressed" by "fanatic" ones even if they write even a "neutral" reply to a turk. I dont want to give names coz its obvious. These "fanatics" are in constant attempt to manipulate others and catalyze "discomfort" among people who are in dialog with turks.



I am not obsessed with anything... I have seen both turkish and armenian websites.
]

here are my opinions which are solely based on my evaluation of some facts:
I personally think turks had no attept to eradicate the "armenian race" like the natzis style. This can be understood by the fact that the armenian children were "brought up" by some turks which means there was no hate towards the race or anything. As far as understand, armenians were in negotiation with the enemies and were manipulated and they were refered to as "bertrayers" because of this matter. There comes the name Talat Pasha who was meant to do a "relocation"- "techir" of "all of the armenians" in anatolia. There had been riots -(obviously) and many civil armenians were killed and this can be refered to as "massive violence" since it targeted whole pupulation of armenians. I personally think this act of "relocation" had been far off from its original purpose and I dont see why it was needed. I dont think armenian "civilians" were gonna attack turkish army and the "terrotist groups" would have been dealed individually, not by "forcing" and ending up killing innocent people... Therefore I think turkish government is guilty for their criminal acts and therefore they need to "face" the reality that killing innocent is against the rules and they need to be punished.

p.s: alakasız olacak ama "doktorlar" dizisini görün? Ben youtube dan izliyorum ve en yeni bölümün sonunda Ela ya o deli garı bişey enjekde edecekdi, o ne bilin? Çok merak ettim, kızı sakat mı bırakacak, ne yapacak :S Bayıltıp kaçıracak galiba.

I am sure that you will start to receive the same hatred messages since you are out of the mainstream official genocide history of Armenians. Do you know that if you express your above speech at Switzerland or France you will go to the jail?
p.s: People are getting crazy with the "doctors" but I have never seen it. Sorry

[Sip]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

"Turks are murderer, Muslims are terrorist, Ataturk was gay..."

I have never said any of that. The only thing that I have said is that you are a moron. Just because I call you an idiot, you think I am saying all the rest of the stuff. That's even more of a sign that you are a closed minded idiot that likes to make generalizations.

[gizzy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Gizzy, do you believe that people like Sip, Gunner and others are the correct persons to make an "intellectual" dialogue? How can I response "intellectually" to a person that parrot "Turks are murderer, Muslims are terrorist, Ataturk was gay..."

yeah yea,I know what you mean but you should ignore some messages to a certain extent you are giving them great pleasure when you reply. I also realized something interesting in this forum which I want to share. Some armenians are being "oppressed" by "fanatic" ones even if they write even a "neutral" reply to a turk. I dont want to give names coz its obvious. These "fanatics" are in constant attempt to manipulate others and catalyze "discomfort" among people who are in dialog with turks.

I can not enlighten you since I also do not know too much about the reality as a person that read many books about 1915 from Turks, Armenians and international scholars. Only thing I can inform to you are the allegations of both sides and neither of them cover the exact reality but distort it. I can also confess that the "official history" of Turkish side is much more distorted than the Armenian side. But still the allegations of the Armenian side distort the reality as well. The problem is this historical debate is not discussing scientifically but politically for a long time. Both sides have their own "official realities" and I repeat it several times above. Do you also obsessed the same thing that exfo "deny" the genocide? I am not like you. I need to have neutral and objective information before make an opinion. Of course you are free to "believe" something that you have no idea besides some propoganda websites.

I am not obsessed with anything... I have seen both turkish and armenian websites.
]

here are my opinions which are solely based on my evaluation of some facts:
I personally think turks had no attept to eradicate the "armenian race" like the natzis style. This can be understood by the fact that the armenian children were "brought up" by some turks which means there was no hate towards the race or anything. As far as understand, armenians were in negotiation with the enemies and were manipulated and they were refered to as "bertrayers" because of this matter. There comes the name Talat Pasha who was meant to do a "relocation"- "techir" of "all of the armenians" in anatolia. There had been riots -(obviously) and many civil armenians were killed and this can be refered to as "massive violence" since it targeted whole pupulation of armenians. I personally think this act of "relocation" had been far off from its original purpose and I dont see why it was needed. I dont think armenian "civilians" were gonna attack turkish army and the "terrotist groups" would have been dealed individually, not by "forcing" and ending up killing innocent people... Therefore I think turkish government is guilty for their criminal acts and therefore they need to "face" the reality that killing innocent is against the rules and they need to be punished.

p.s: alakasız olacak ama "doktorlar" dizisini görün? Ben youtube dan izliyorum ve en yeni bölümün sonunda Ela ya o deli garı bişey enjekde edecekdi, o ne bilin? Çok merak ettim, kızı sakat mı bırakacak, ne yapacak :S Bayıltıp kaçıracak galiba.

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

"personal intellectual terror"?!?....hmm...I can see the "personal" and the "terror" part but I havnt seen the "intellectual" bit yet....perhaps you should start sharing your "sophisticated analysis" on an "intellectual" basis soon... I have only seen your "I am protesting these people coz they hate me" posts so far... If you think there are things to be said, the truths you believe that exist, then you must tell and explain the reasons why...If you are really sure of your "analysis" then you should ignore those who are not gonna appretiate it. Especially on the genocide issue... tell me why you think its not a genocide and if its not a genocide then what it can be called instead...is it just a war?

Pls go ahead and enlighten me with your analysis but dont expect me to take a side since I never will coz I refuse to have an effete reasoning power!

Gizzy, do you believe that people like Sip, Gunner and others are the correct persons to make an "intellectual" dialogue? How can I response "intellectually" to a person that parrot "Turks are murderer, Muslims are terrorist, Ataturk was gay..."

I can not enlighten you since I also do not know too much about the reality as a person that read many books about 1915 from Turks, Armenians and international scholars. Only thing I can inform to you are the allegations of both sides and neither of them cover the exact reality but distort it. I can also confess that the "official history" of Turkish side is much more distorted than the Armenian side. But still the allegations of the Armenian side distort the reality as well. The problem is this historical debate is not discussing scientifically but politically for a long time. Both sides have their own "official realities" and I repeat it several times above. Do you also obsessed the same thing that exfo "deny" the genocide? I am not like you. I need to have neutral and objective information before make an opinion. Of course you are free to "believe" something that you have no idea besides some propoganda websites.

lool...no wayyy...I think this forum offers loads of "intelligent" threads such as "ataturk is gay" and therefore I am "suprized" to see how come these extremly "clever turks" are incapable of forming "intelligent" dialogs....awwwww

As a Turk I am incapable to discuss these issues intellectually like Sip. Also it is very exacting job to research about the gayness of Ataturk and Sip is a proffessional on that matter.

[gizzy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Of course you are free to think whatever you like, such as Gunner, Sip or others are free to think that Turks are X. I just expected more sophisticated analysis from you. You dissappointed me (welcome to my personal intellectual terror Gizzy ) Take your side!

"personal intellectual terror"?!?....hmm...I can see the "personal" and the "terror" part but I havnt seen the "intellectual" bit yet....perhaps you should start sharing your "sophisticated analysis" on an "intellectual" basis soon... I have only seen your "I am protesting these people coz they hate me" posts so far... If you think there are things to be said, the truths you believe that exist, then you must tell and explain the reasons why...If you are really sure of your "analysis" then you should ignore those who are not gonna appretiate it. Especially on the genocide issue... tell me why you think its not a genocide and if its not a genocide then what it can be called instead...is it just a war?

Pls go ahead and enlighten me with your analysis but dont expect me to take a side since I never will coz I refuse to have an effete reasoning power!

They are the majority of the Turks we see here in this forum. Most of the intelligent Turks realize they need to fix a lot of their own problems first before trying to initiate "intelligent" dialog with Armenians.

lool...no wayyy...I think this forum offers loads of "intelligent" threads such as "ataturk is gay" and therefore I am "suprized" to see how come these extremly "clever turks" are incapable of forming "intelligent" dialogs....awwwww

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Good, you say that you do not know much about 1915 and then you confess that 1915 was a genocide. This is called as intellectual terror which these people use since long decades. Sorry but I will not confess, I am a sinner, a denier and deserve being killed but no I will not confess, capish?

Exefo, i give you a bit of advice... never die for your belief, because there is a chance you were wrong...

with that last post you showed your true color...