Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Tsov]

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You mistake basic busniess for assistance. Azerbaijan isnt getting xxxx for free like Armenia, it buys it.

No one is helping Azerbaijan, Russia is helping Armenia. Azerbaijan is helping itself.

You mean oil is helping Azerbaijan.

For as long as it will.

[Tsov]

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You guys have to read this article below. I realize it is in the wrong place but this is the most popular thread on the forum. The article related to BTC pipeline explosion in 2008 during the Russian/Georgian conflict. Seems the Kurds did not blow up the pipeline in Turkey, the Russians did…and you'll find out how they did it. Cannot help but admire them a bit.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-1...-cyberwar.html

I read this to today, very interesting. Firstly because I didn't even know this piple was blown up in the past.

Can you imagine if the piple would get blown up presently. It would be the final blow to Azerbaijan's economy.

[londontsi]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

You guys have to read this article below. I realize it is in the wrong place but this is the most popular thread on the forum. The article related to BTC pipeline explosion in 2008 during the Russian/Georgian conflict. Seems the Kurds did not blow up the pipeline in Turkey, the Russians did…and you'll find out how they did it. Cannot help but admire them a bit.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-1...-cyberwar.html

Joseph this is a very interesting article.

In fact when reading it I was in cloud seven on auto pilot almost living it .......

until I bumped my head to this paragraph and ........ I woke up.

Seriously lets read it carefully

U.S. intelligence agencies believe the Russian government was behind the Refahiye explosion, according to two of the people briefed on the investigation.
The evidence is circumstantial, they said, based on the possible motive and the level of sophistication.

So far so good, ... sort of

The attackers also left behind a tantalizing clue.

Infrared Camera

Although as many as 60 hours of surveillance video were erased by the hackers, a single infrared camera not connected to the same network captured images of two men with laptop computers walking near the pipeline days before the explosion,

Really, the hackers erased 60 hrs of video (2.5 days worth) from near the pipeline?

I though hacking is done remotely.

The pipeline is 1200 miles long where near, near the explosion?

according to one of the people, who has reviewed the video.

The men wore black military-style uniforms without insignias, similar to the garb worn by special forces troops.

Really the special forces went to another country with their special forces uniforms in peacetime so everybody notices them?

and of coarse ......

“Given Russia’s strategic interest, there will always be the question of whether the country had a hand in it,”

I would describe it a very unsophisticated and amateurish anti Russian propaganda.

[argin]

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heres the best part of the article,does anyone know if that figure would be higher or lower today?considering the current prices economic sanctions

Some of the worst damage was felt by the State Oil Fund of the Republic of Azerbaijan, which lost $1 billion in export revenue while the line was shut down, according to Jamala Aliyeva, a spokeswoman for the fund.

[londontsi]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

heres the best part of the article,does anyone know if that figure would be higher or lower today?considering the current prices economic sanctions

Some of the worst damage was felt by the State Oil Fund of the Republic of Azerbaijan, which lost $1 billion in export revenue while the line was shut down, according to Jamala Aliyeva, a spokeswoman for the fund.

That's great.
Even Armenia has threatened on numerous occasions to blow the pipeline including other facilities so the stoppage would be catastrophic for Azerbaijan.
What’s more no interested party has said “don't you dare”.

My comment was, an old factual event was regurgitated in the form of clumsy propaganda.
By the way the internet is flooded with such propaganda.

Our job here is, (in this forum) to put to the test through debate in good faith.
That is all I was doing.

PS I still do not know who did it, but I am glad they did it.

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[Artashes]

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Joseph this is a very interesting article.

In fact when reading it I was in cloud seven on auto pilot almost living it .......

until I bumped my head to this paragraph and ........ I woke up.

Seriously lets read it carefully




So far so good, ... sort of




Really, the hackers erased 60 hrs of video (2.5 days worth) from near the pipeline?

I though hacking is done remotely.

The pipeline is 1200 miles long where near, near the explosion?



Really the special forces went to another country with their special forces uniforms in peacetime so everybody notices them?

and of coarse ......

I would describe it a very unsophisticated and amateurish anti Russian propaganda.

That's great.
Even Armenia has threatened on numerous occasions to blow the pipeline including other facilities so the stoppage would be catastrophic for Azerbaijan.
What’s more no interested party has said “don't you dare”.

My comment was, an old factual event was regurgitated in the form of clumsy propaganda.
By the way the internet is flooded with such propaganda.

Our job here is, (in this forum) to put to the test through debate in good faith.
That is all I was doing.

PS I still do not know who did it, but I am glad they did it.

.

Pertainenent observations.
I also don't know who did it. But if you read the article, it clearly states no one is able to tell who did this, and then it goes on to blame Russia.
My problem is the USA & cronies are doing this very thing they purport to detest. Read the leaked info by Snowden and you see the USA et al doing this hacking on a scale that probably puts the other hackers to shame.
I agree, sounds like the western propaganda machine in spades.

[ninetoyadome]

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Armenia, Italy Sign Plan for Military Cooperation

YEREVAN (Mediamax)—On Wednesday and Thursday, talks were held in Yerevan on further military cooperation between Italy and Armenia.
The event focused on issues related to current needs and prospects of development for Armenian-Italian military cooperation, the Armenian Defense Ministry reported.
The meeting was concluded with the signing of an Armenian-Italian military cooperation plan for 2015 by Armenia’s Chief of Defense Policy Levon Ayvazyan and Head of the International Cooperation Office of the Defense General Staff of Italy, Colonel Roberto Vannacci.

http://asbarez.com/129781/armenia-italy-sign-plan-for-military-cooperation/

[Tsov]

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Armenia, Italy Sign Plan for Military Cooperation

YEREVAN (Mediamax)—On Wednesday and Thursday, talks were held in Yerevan on further military cooperation between Italy and Armenia.
The event focused on issues related to current needs and prospects of development for Armenian-Italian military cooperation, the Armenian Defense Ministry reported.
The meeting was concluded with the signing of an Armenian-Italian military cooperation plan for 2015 by Armenia’s Chief of Defense Policy Levon Ayvazyan and Head of the International Cooperation Office of the Defense General Staff of Italy, Colonel Roberto Vannacci.

http://asbarez.com/129781/armenia-it...y-cooperation/

Does anyone khow what these plans entail? I also read Armenia signed such a plan with Bulgaria a few days ago.

[Chubs]

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Does anyone khow what these plans entail? I also read Armenia signed such a plan with Bulgaria a few days ago.

Idk, probably attempt to invade a port and get destroyed by 9 frenchmen. I believe that would probably be the most likely scenario in any exercise

[Ak105]

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Wiki says armenia uses soltam k6 mortars, is this true? Any proof?