Origin of Armenian Surnames

[ninetoyadome]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

guys i have a quick question, does this sound like an Armenian name?
Zack Kassian

[Federate]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

guys i have a quick question, does this sound like an Armenian name?
Zack Kassian

If you're talking about the hockey player, yes he's Armenian. He's the second one now, right after Zach Bogosian.

[ninetoyadome]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

ya, hes a right wing while Bogosian is defense. the nhl draft is tomorrow and they say he's top 15.
hoping the kings get him

[Sako]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

Saco, my apologies, I pressed the multiple quote tab and one of my responses got inbeded in yours. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth.

Just wanted to let you know bro, hetin mitk chka !

From the threads I've read, it's not as though you're lacking for any......
With highest regards,

Same here yekhpayr, get more active.

[Sako]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

Regarding Kassian ... it's an Armenian name. One of my dad's friends was here last year ... he was a Kassian and the Kassian street here in Armenia was named after his father.

[Sasun]

Re: Origin of Armenian Surnames

ya, hes a right wing while Bogosian is defense. the nhl draft is tomorrow and they say he's top 15.
hoping the kings get him

I'll be following the draft today, Kassian, eh? If he is good, he should go to a real NHL city! Kings indeed! I think we should be promoting these guys. Let's start a Zach & Zack fan club. With local chapters in each NHL city.

[Sasun]

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I wonder if Kassian is a descendant of one of the Georgetown Boys. Those young men carried out a rebelion against their teachers because they didn't want to change their Armenian Names. It was all they had in a new land.
If Kassian is a descendant, that would make quite a story. But, he went to Buffulo.

[hrai]

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There was a time when Armenians had one name but probably only in villages and small towns. I doubt the majority was that way. I will go deeper into the subject matter. It is interesting for me.

I think you're right that 2 names goes back a long way, way before the little French emperor.
The first name, we've all got one and the last name, well they're to seperate and identify the various Saco/Sakos etc.

Normally stemming from the easy one - father's name.

Physical description

Village/town/district

Profession or trade

In later years these would become more and more diverse.

Do Western Armenians have patrynomics? Mine's Alexandre and I was told these were forced upon Armenians by the Russians (ie: Alexandrovich)

In Iceland, children take their family name from their father's first name, and therre's a big difference between sexes.

For example : Father - Olaf Jacobsen

Son - Sven Olafsen

Daughter - Ingrid Olafsdottir

I understand this system was used all over Scandinavia but only Iceland, maybe Greenland, still use it. The "dottir" or daughter suffix having disappeared in Norway & Sweden.
Must be a hell of a job researching family histories!

[Sako]

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Yeah, must be!

What do you think Sasun jan? I think Hrai made some excellent points.

[Moogey]

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I think you're right that 2 names goes back a long way, way before the little French emperor.
The first name, we've all got one and the last name, well they're to seperate and identify the various Saco/Sakos etc.

Normally stemming from the easy one - father's name.

Physical description

Village/town/district

Profession or trade

In later years these would become more and more diverse.

Do Western Armenians have patrynomics? Mine's Alexandre and I was told these were forced upon Armenians by the Russians (ie: Alexandrovich)

In Iceland, children take their family name from their father's first name, and therre's a big difference between sexes.

For example : Father - Olaf Jacobsen

Son - Sven Olafsen

Daughter - Ingrid Olafsdottir

I understand this system was used all over Scandinavia but only Iceland, maybe Greenland, still use it. The "dottir" or daughter suffix having disappeared in Norway & Sweden.
Must be a hell of a job researching family histories!

And in Scotland, we have Robertson etc., which no doubt comes from the Scandinavian (the Viking influence).

It's a bit like the "ian" - belonging to. Now there's an interesting use of the suffix "ian" in English e.g. Anglian windows, etc. You could joke that they are Armenian.

For Western Armenians, it would seem that when a surname was a trade, "dji", it was of Turkish origin. Are there exceptions?

One other point, for research etc. It would be a good thing if the woman did not take the man's name when she married. I have had great difficulty tracing my schoolfriends because I did not know their married names. This may sound trivial.....
I don't know much about Spanish names, but I believe the mother's name is included. They have a long string of names.