Origin of Armenian Surnames

[Sako]

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Were does the myth come from there was a time that people had one name? I hear it all the time and believe me it's not true look at history and the names and there you will see what it the names were. Here in Europe people think they got a surname because of Napoleon? Who can they think that and don't look at their history

There was a time when Armenians had one name but probably only in villages and small towns. I doubt the majority was that way. I will go deeper into the subject matter. It is interesting for me.

[Moogey]

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Hi, I joined this forum recently. I have posted in other threads, unfortunately, I find most threads to be a few years old. Interesting nevertheless.
Saco wouldn't Kakat be top? as in mountain top? Sorry to spoil the fun for you. Armenian names were for the most part descriptive. Of a necessity because for quite some time Armenians went with only one name. The descriptive usually was tagged on by neighbors and not always complementary. And don't forget, names change due to pronounciation, language,etc.
Finally, I would appreciate if ALL Armenians kept their dignity. No matter the idiot, nor the crap posted, nor the language used. Please do not lower yourselves to their level. I've been reading just too much lately and I expect better from Armenians.

Sasun, I've been wanting to say this for some time. It may be considered banter, but it's often offensive. There are also better things to do and talk about than hatred.

[Sako]

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Sasun, I've been wanting to say this for some time. It may be considered banter, but it's often offensive. There are also better things to do and talk about than hatred.

Hatred towards who? If we're talking about fights between Armenians then let's also talk about why they started. Some Armenians here acted like complete imbecils and they got what they deserved. Overall, I get your drift though Sasun and Moogey. Sometimes, fights and all are pointless but in many cases, they aren't.

[Sasun]

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Gentlemen, I believe we are all on the same page. Arguments and so on are natural. We all have our own ideas, each and every one of us has a point of view. I'm sure we can't agree on everything under the sun. But we can always keep our DIGNITY! There is no reason to use the f word all the time. It shows a lack of class. As I said, I just expect Armenians to show more class.

[KanadaHye]

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Gentlemen, I believe we are all on the same page. Arguments and so on are natural. We all have our own ideas, each and every one of us has a point of view. I'm sure we can't agree on everything under the sun. But we can always keep our DIGNITY! There is no reason to use the f word all the time. It shows a lack of class. As I said, I just expect Armenians to show more class.

Welcome to the 21st century, full of disappointing expectations.

[Sasun]

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There was a time when Armenians had one name but probably only in villages and small towns. I doubt the majority was that way. I will go deeper into the subject matter. It is interesting for me.

Saco, I would like to discuss this with you ad infinitum. I am very interested in History, Ancient History to be exact. I believe it was more widespread than you think, this single name basis of identification. The nobility had two names. The first name identifying the individual, and the second name identifying the noble house he or she belonged to. I haven't researched this that intensely yet, but, I believe this to be the case. Of course it depends which era we are talking about. The common people had one name. No house to identify with, only the father.
So, do you start the thread for the IAN or do I?

[Sako]

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Saco, I would like to discuss this with you ad infinitum. I am very interested in History, Ancient History to be exact. I believe it was more widespread than you think, this single name basis of identification. The nobility had two names. The first name identifying the individual, and the second name identifying the noble house he or she belonged to. I haven't researched this that intensely yet, but, I believe this to be the case. Of course it depends which era we are talking about. The common people had one name. No house to identify with, only the father.

So which era are you talking about here? I mean, this happened in many places (one name) but I think the two name system goes back. I doubt it's just something new, designed in the last 200 years or something. I am going deeper into the subject myself so we can share what we have learned as we go. In Candles and Ashes, there will be a massive section for Armenian names so like it or not, I have to study all this and put all the pieces of the puzzle together.

So, do you start the thread for the IAN or do I?

Whatever floats your boat.

[Sasun]

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So which era are you talking about here? I mean, this happened in many places (one name) but I think the two name system goes back. I doubt it's just something new, designed in the last 200 years or something. I am going deeper into the subject myself so we can share what we have learned as we go. In Candles and Ashes, there will be a massive section for Armenian names so like it or not, I have to study all this and put all the pieces of the puzzle together.

Prior to the 1700's there was no need for two names. However let's take things in large chunks first. Pre-Christian era, what I said holds true. First 1000 years of Christianity I think my explanations still hold. A second name might have been tagged on to the individual, but it would be descriptive and would not pass on from father to son. That only leaves about the last 500 years for two names to be used, the second as a permanent family name.

Whatever floats your boat.

Actually, I'm a landlubber. lol But I had that debate face to face with a few people, and it raised some hackles. I can't wait to discuss it with some intelligent people.(I am generous at times).

[Sako]

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Dude, I never said the following that you quoted above...

Prior to the 1700's there was no need for two names. However let's take things in large chunks first. Pre-Christian era, what I said holds true. First 1000 years of Christianity I think my explanations still hold. A second name might have been tagged on to the individual, but it would be descriptive and would not pass on from father to son. That only leaves about the last 500 years for two names to be used, the second as a permanent family name.

I never said this.

Overall, I guess your right but I think it goes further back. Not a thousand years for sure but at least 7 centuries. This isn't a fact though so I may be wrong. Like I said, I'm going deeper into all this. Just have to find time.

I can't wait to discuss it with some intelligent people.(I am generous at times).

So are we, lol. Start the thread if you like. I'll discuss if I have time. Gotta finish CA soon so I might not have enough.

[Sasun]

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Saco, my apologies, I pressed the multiple quote tab and one of my responses got inbeded in yours. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth.
From the threads I've read, it's not as though you're lacking for any......
With highest regards,