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  • #61
    Ok, I looked up about Hayasa and this is what it says "The oldest known ancestors of modern Armenians, the Hayasa-Azzi tribes, also known as Proto-Armenians, were indigenous to the Armenian Highland in Eastern Anatolia." The Assyrian link in my head came from the fact that the Assyrian cuneform transcriptions confirm about a tribe living North of them called Hayasa. So that was the link I was thinking about, I did not confirm that Hayasa came from Assyrians.

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    • #62
      also another armenian forum website has a similar discussion that I found interesting to read, take a look...they also discuss who is Hayasa etc.

      it's on xxxxxxxx

      under

      How Is Urartu The First Armenian Kingdom?

      (I am new to this, can someone explain to me how come the website I am trying to type in above does not show up? Thanks)
      Last edited by kikki88; 08-05-2004, 12:42 PM.

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      • #63
        Hayasa does not have anything to do with Assyrians, although the Assyrians did describe other peoples, it does not mean they were Semetic, no different than Greek and Roman ethnography and describing the "other peoples". The influence is more readily that of Hayasa and Indo-European, mixed with Urartean which is a Caucasian language, than anything else. But even that is a theory.

        Even in Armenian lore, and other Indo-European legends the pure Aryans have always considered to be blond haired and blue eyes, and myths come down of how the Gods of the time of Hayk possessed this. This is what Hitler built upon, nothing about the blond hair and blue eyes is made up. This is what the Viracochas is about who referred to themselves as "The Sons of the Sun", which means "the white man with the red beard". And hence the Swastika and sun worship and Aryans, etc. When the Spanish came to conquer South America the Indians thought that they were the grandchildren of the peoples who were called the Viracochas.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Anonymouse
          ... although the Assyrians did describe other peoples, it does not mean they were Semetic, no different than Greek and Roman ethnography and describing the "other peoples".
          Assyrian is a branch of Akkadian which is an Eastern Semitic language.

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          • #65
            I believe we all know Assyrian is a Semetic language, that was not the issue. The issue is Assyrians in relation to other peoples, such as Urartu, which is an Assyrian name given to them, even though the Urarteans went by Biani, no different from Greek or Roman ethnographers in how they classified the barbarians.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #66
              Anonymous, Hitler was lunatic and I think it's been written over and over that the Germans have nothing to do with Aryans. And finally I don't understand the Armenian fascination with proving that we were once blond/blue (I should admit I am one of them sometimes) Who cares? Is being dark haired with olive skin tone (which we are today) bad? Can anyone comment about this?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by kikki88
                Anonymous, Hitler was lunatic and I think it's been written over and over that the Germans have nothing to do with Aryans. And finally I don't understand the Armenian fascination with proving that we were once blond/blue (I should admit I am one of them sometimes) Who cares? Is being dark haired with olive skin tone (which we are today) bad? Can anyone comment about this?
                It is not a fascination it is simply little sketches of facts and theories that we talk about. Because something is discomforting does not mean we can't talk about them. As far as Hitler being a lunatic, that is stupid, and in fact, reflects the stupidity of court historians and court psychologists who have made a lucrative career in trying to smear the man, as opposed to trying to have an objective study of the man. Armenians are white, at least for the most part, such as my family. No one said anything about olive skinned, it only shows Arabic and Persian mixtures. I apologize, my white skin and green eyes don't mingle with some.
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #68
                  Try not to sound racist


                  I personally find "darker" Armenians very attractive

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                  • #69
                    "Try not to sound racist".

                    Oh please be quiet. Stop trying to smear me with a political construction that came into use in the 1960s. Such invented words mean nothing. As for your attraction, good for you. Only nerfbrains would confuse talking about theories and facts surrounding Aryans or Hitler, or my own Armenians, with being racist. Armenians are not even a race.
                    Achkerov kute.

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                    • #70
                      Historians have so far been unable to assert beyond any reasonable doubt that the Urartu people were either Indo-European or Semitic. One theory that seems to have some credibility is that the Urartu were related to the present-day Georgians. There are a lot of words in the Armenian language that are of completely non-Indo-European origin, probably from the original language of the Urartu. In fact, for a while, both Armenian and Urartu were spoken (Armenian by the elite, Urartu by the masses), until Armenian took over.

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