That joke of a country called Armenia?

[jgk3]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

That joke of a thread called "That joke of country called Armenia."

Next year I'll nominate bell as the best thread creator, this xxxx rivals Ankap.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

, ...this xxxx rivals Ankap.

Based on the past number of examples of stupid behavior and comments made by Armenian officials, politicians, and "social commentators" I'm sure it could rival Ankap in post numbers.

[levon]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

Levon, you've just compared emos to azeris and turks... You're getting smarter every day too.

You're right, emos are much more detrimental to a culture than turks and azeris. At least the turks and azeris stay the f&ck away from Armenia, and when they come in we cut their f&cking heads off. Too bad we can't do that with the emo, things would be so much easier.

[jgk3]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

An vor ge hartsage bidi hartsagvi ays ashkhrarin metch. If you are violent towards violent neighbours, you may give them a taste of their own medicine and they'll think twice about striking again. If you are violent towards non-violent citizens, you will give rise to a cause, you will create martyrs and men who are willing to die for precious freedom. That's the difference.

A country that is devoid of men willing to forfeit their lives for freedom does not exist, but Stalin and Siberian gulags did exist. That is the kind of solution you seek then, in order to preserve your precious culture.

[Tigranakert]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

Based on the past number of examples of stupid behavior and comments made by Armenian officials, politicians, and "social commentators" I'm sure it could rival Ankap in post numbers.

Why doesn't this sound uncommon to countries like the United States of America, Great Brittain, Italy, and almost every other country in the world.

Based on the past number of examples of stupid behavior and comments made by American officials, politicians, and "social commentators" I'm sure it could rival Ankap in post numbers.

Based on the past number of examples of stupid behavior and comments made by Italian officials, politicians, and "social commentators" I'm sure it could rival Ankap in post numbers.

It is just your mission to denigrate Armenia, everybody knows that. It's like your stupid silly remark about ''mafia'', which only exists (in your opinion) in nations like Armenia and Italy.

I have been warning everyone for a long time now about you, luckily (slowly but steadily) everybody is understanding you just a bullxxxx talker, like a typical Azeri journalist.



Again, you are not even Armenian and you dare to make a topic name like this? I spit on your face and on that of your country. People like you should be banned of visiting Armenia ever in their lives. Give it up, Armenians don't like you. You don't like Armenia. There is only one reason why a non-Armenian like you studied Armenian culture.

[levon]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

An vor ge hartsage bidi hartsagvi ays ashkhrarin metch. If you are violent towards violent neighbours, you may give them a taste of their own medicine and they'll think twice about striking again. If you are violent towards non-violent citizens, you will give rise to a cause, you will create martyrs and men who are willing to die for precious freedom. That's the difference.

A country that is devoid of men willing to forfeit their lives for freedom does not exist, but Stalin and Siberian gulags did exist. That is the kind of solution you seek then, in order to preserve your precious culture.

Great post, but if the emo could stand up for something, they wouldn't be emo. If your logic applied to everything then there should have already been a gigantic f@ggot army growing in the middle east, but that hasn't happen yet.

Men with a cause don't become emo, emo is just an indication of a person with no ambition, stuck in self-pity and a sub-culture that in general encourages under-achievement and anti-social behaviors.

There is no emo who will stand up for a cause.

[jgk3]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

Great post, but if the emo could stand up for something, they wouldn't be emo. If your logic applied to everything then there should have already been a gigantic f@ggot army growing in the middle east, but that hasn't happen yet.

Men with a cause don't become emo, emo is just an indication of a person with no ambition, stuck in self-pity and a sub-culture that in general encourages under-achievement and anti-social behaviors.

There is no emo who will stand up for a cause.

There is no f@ggot army in the middle east because there is no such thing as a f@ggot in the middle east. There is only git-veren (ass giver), the logic being that if you are the sodomizer and not the "sodomizee", you are perfectly manly. Homosexuality exists, albeit covertly, within the fabric of the macho-ideal in Islamic countries and the middle east in general. I don't know much about how this gets reflected in Armenia, as Sodomy was criminalized in the Soviet Union.

Your comment about emos not having the will to stand up for themselves is betrayed by the fact that some of them have had the guts to do so, and criticize the state's activities against them. That to me is not a mark of underachievement and self-pity, otherwise they would withdraw to their bedrooms complain about the cruelty of the world they live in. And if there are people who do withdraw like this, they can only do so for so long before having to make a decision: either take their own lives to leave this world that they feel they cannot live in, or to stand up for their self-expression, desires and sense of identity. The state cracking down on the emo sub-culture only serves as a catalyst for this personal decision making process, which is not at all restricted to emos, but applies to all sorts of people and communities who face feelings of hopelessness.

[levon]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

There is no f@ggot army in the middle east because there is no such thing as a f@ggot in the middle east. There is only git-veren (ass giver), the logic being that if you are the sodomizer and not the "sodomizee", you are perfectly manly. Homosexuality exists, albeit covertly, within the fabric of the macho-ideal in Islamic countries and the middle east in general. I don't know much about how this gets reflected in Armenia, as Sodomy was criminalized in the Soviet Union.

Your comment about emos not having the will to stand up for themselves is betrayed by the fact that some of them have had the guts to do so, and criticize the state's activities against them. That to me is not a mark of underachievement and self-pity, otherwise they would withdraw to their bedrooms complain about the cruelty of the world they live in. And if there are people who do withdraw like this, they can only do so for so long before having to make a decision: either take their own lives to leave this world that they feel they cannot live in, or to stand up for their self-expression, desires and sense of identity. The state cracking down on the emo sub-culture only serves as a catalyst for this personal decision making process, which is not at all restricted to emos, but applies to all sorts of people and communities who face feelings of hopelessness.

Wrong, there is such a thing as a f@ggot in the middle east, and in almost all middle east countries f@ggots get killed. Secondly, criticizing what the state is doing is not standing up, it's just criticizing, it leads to nothing, but complaining. The emo is good at that.

Though you are good at taking early soviet propaganda (oppressed people stand up against the tyrrany) and applying it here

[jgk3]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

I'm sure f@ggots do get killed, but explain to me why men like Ataturk, and other Turks occupying positions of privilege during the genocide era that chose to take young boys as concubines, did not get killed and rather continued to have flourishing careers?

Criticizing publically is standing up, because it forces the issue out in the open by defending their point of view, a double edged sword because it reaches out for more support for its cause, yet puts the state in an uncomfortable position where it must choose a response that will be noticed by all. It can either ignore the issue (and allow the trend to run its course) or repress it/punish its suspected adherents. Whatever it chooses, both the government and the public will face consequences which would not have occurred if the emos in this case, kept quiet in their bedrooms, or only complained to eachother in secret.

What in your opinion, would be a more substantial form of "standing up for one's cause"? Perhaps better internal organization/logistics?

[levon]

Re: That joke of a country called Armenia?

I'm sure f@ggots do get killed, but explain to me why men like Ataturk, and other Turks occupying positions of privilege during the genocide era that chose to take young boys as concubines, did not get killed and rather continued to have flourishing careers?

Rules don't apply to people with power. I'm sure you know that.

Criticizing publically is standing up, because it forces the issue out in the open by defending their point of view, a double edged sword because it reaches out for more support for its cause, yet puts the state in an uncomfortable position where it must choose a response that will be noticed by all. It can either ignore the issue (and allow the trend to run its course) or repress it/punish its suspected adherents. Whatever it chooses, both the government and the public will face consequences which would not have occurred if the emos in this case, kept quiet in their bedrooms, or only complained to eachother in secret.

The emo are just complaining. Don't forget that this is getting much more coverage in western press than in Armenia. It's in the public eye here because westernized Armenians are much more likely to feel sympathy towards the emo, given the 60 years or so of anti-oppression propaganda. By getting western armenians to act on these issues, it is possible to force outside social agendas on Armenia. Do you really think that a few hundred emos have raised enough hell for the media to take notice? No, it's a standard tactic. Take a small issue, blow it out of proportion then attempt to indroduce new laws, when in reality the original issue was small and insignificant. Think about it.

What in your opinion, would be a more substantial form of "standing up for one's cause"? Perhaps better internal organization/logistics?

Standing up for one's cause? Think of the Artsakh war. We stood for our cause by fighting, not by complaining to western media sources. Had we done the latter, we would have lost.