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  • Mos
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    Good job Switzerland:

    Perincek v. Switzerland Genocide denial lawsuit ongoing

    November 2, 2011 - 21:16 AMT
    PanARMENIAN.Net - A delegation of 160 people has gone to Switzerland to show support for the head of Turkey's Workers' Party, Dogu Perincek, who is on trial there for publicly denying Armenian Genocide.
    The general leader of the Turkish Workers' Party, Perincek is on trial in Switzerland for negating Armenian Genocide during a 2005 demonstration in Lausanne, Hurriyet reported.
    Having been convicted by a Swiss court of law for denial of Genocide, Perincek filed a return lawsuit against Switzerland with the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR).
    ECHR addressed Turkey, requesting a case-related letter, which was sent today by Ankara.
    The response of ECHR remains to be seen.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    ????
    NAASR Center
    395 Concord Ave.
    Belmont, MA

    Thursday Nov. 3, 2011
    8:00 p.m.

    An Armeno-Hebrew Mystery: Or, a 1,000-Year-Old Armenian Text in a Cairo Synagogue and the Stories It Tells

    A Lecture by
    James R. Russell
    Mashtots Professor of Armenian Studies,
    Harvard University

    In the waning years of the nineteenth century a traveling scholar happened by chance on a store-room at the back of a Cairo synagogue filled to the ceiling with medieval manuscripts: letters, poems, sacred books, economic documents, etc., that could not simply be thrown away, because they employed the sacred Hebrew script. Like a fly trapped in amber, the documents of the Geniza (which literally means "treasure house") provide a vivid and detailed primary record of the life and letters of the Middle East in the centuries just after the beginning of the second millennium.

    Among the items preserved in the Cairo Geniza is a short Armenian word list, with translation into Judeo-Arabic. Since the Armenian words are written out in Hebrew characters we know exactly how they were pronounced; and the curious selection of vocabulary invites one to speculate upon the occasion for which they might have been compiled. Both the Geniza record and Armenian sources enable us to recreate that context, and to enter, very briefly, a long lost world.

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  • Vrej1915
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    Vorlizoutioun

    Վանի երկրաշարժի տուժածների համար օգնություն տեղափոխող հայկական օդանավը Էրզրում կթռչի այսօր կեսօրին

    Հոկտեմբեր 28, 2011
    Այսօր` հոկտեմբերի 28-ին, ժամը 12.00-13.00-ի սահմաններում, Երեւանի Էրեբունի օդանավակայանից ՀՀ Արտակարգ իրավիճակների նախարարության ներկայացուցիչները Իլ-76 ինքնաթիռով Թուրքիայի Էրզրում քաղաք կտեղափոխեն ՀՀ կառավարության աջակցությունը՝ 40 տոննա բեռ:

    Այն իր մեջ ներառում է 100-ից ավելի վրաններ, 500 քնապարկ եւ 7000-ից ավելի անկողնային պարագաներ։

    Հիշեցնենք, որ Հայաստանը հոկտեմբերի 27-ին, թուրքական Կարմիր մահիկի եւ Եվրաատլանտյան աղետների արձագանքման համակարգման կենտրոնի միջոցով ստացել է Թուրքիայի կառավարության օգնության պաշտոնական հայտը:

    Ավելի վաղ NEWS.am-ը հայտնել էր, որ 7,2 մագնիտուդով երկրաշարժը տեղի է ունեցել Վանի նահանգում հոկտեմբերի 23-ին, տեղի ժամանակով 13։41-ին: Էպիկենտրոնը եղել է Վանից 38 կմ հյուսիս-արեւելք՝ Թաբանլը գյուղի մոտակայքում։

    Ուժգին երկրաշարժից հետո դեռեւս շարունակվում են ցնցումները։ Վերջին 3 օրվա ընթացքում Վանի նահանգում գրանցվել է 600-ից ավել ցնցում։

    Intch ani tchani, tourkerin arit da 'hachdvelou'........
    Mer aghedi 30000 zoheri chirimnberin tknoum e, Der Zori hichadage el tchassenk...
    Ter gan martig, vor hichoum yen tourkeri hazaravor chnorhavoragan herakrere 8.12.88in
    Ter gan martig, vor Vani darekhen ou Ardamedi Khntzore hamaroum yen sepagan, zavtvadz, koghatzadz, paytz sepagan.
    Paytz intchbess Roupenen er assoum, intchkan el hamegh e Ardamedi khntzore, linoum er metche vort er linoum.....

    En el oum e oughargoum?
    Mer hoghe zavtadz, mer hoghe youratzeradz pijerin.
    Bolis, Baku gam Izmir ougharger, gasseyink morakoun e, anoum e.... aratchi ankame tche... iranitz bidi sbassel.
    Paytz Vanen ou Arjeche 'ocupatzenoghnerin'???

    Badgaratzenoum yek Aliyeve ojantagoutioun oughargi Karvadjar gam Akna?
    Deghoum ge sadgatzeneyin.
    Last edited by Vrej1915; 10-28-2011, 01:01 AM.

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  • londontsi
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    What does this mean?



    The only way I see Armenia having any meaningful cooperation with Israel is if it becomes enemies with Azerbaijan.
    AND not interfere in Armenian Iranian relationship, tall order.

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  • Tigranakert
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    Media sensation, nothing special.

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  • Mos
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    ????

    American professor to reveal Armenian-xxxish secret





    October 28, 2011 | 03:42
    Professor of Armenian Studies at Harvard University James Russel will read a lecture entitled “Armenian-xxxish secret or 1000-year-old Armenian text in synagogue and history of Cairo which is told by him”, the Armenian Weekly informs.

    In the end of the 19th century a traveling scientist accidentally happened to be in a Cairo synagogue storeroom which was full of middle age manuscripts. The manuscripts could not be just thrown out because they were written with the holy xxxish script. The documents of the Cairo Henize (which literally means treasury) include an initial description of the life and writing culture of the Near East in the beginning of the second millennium.

    A short list including Armenian words translated to Judeo-Arabic was found in the Henize. The Armenian words were written in the xxxish script so we know how they are pronounced and the curious choice of vocabulary lets us guess why the list was created. The records in the Henize and the Armenian sources enable us to recreate this context and penetrate into a lost world, he said.

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  • Mos
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    What does this mean?

    Is Armenia Sending a ‘Secret’ Envoy to Tel Aviv?


    Israel's foreign ministry
    YEREVAN (Tert.am)—Is Yerevan sending a high-ranking official to Tel Aviv to discuss potential strategic cooperation with Israel? The Israeli-Russian news Web site Izrus.co reported citing unnamed sources.
    “Despite the close relations between Tel Aviv and Baku on the one hand, and Yerevan and Tehran on the other, a ‘secret’ Armenian envoy will arrive in Israel to discuss possibilities of strategic cooperation. And Ankara’s regional policy creates favorable conditions for that,” the Izrus article said.
    “The senior Armenian official’s visit to Israel was scheduled for late October or early November. He is authorized to discuss political and strategic issues with the Israeli side. His main objective is to explore opportunities for military cooperation,” the article continued.
    The Israeli Foreign Ministry declined to comment on Izrus’ queries about the reported visit.
    The only way I see Armenia having any meaningful cooperation with Israel is if it becomes enemies with Azerbaijan.

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  • Mos
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    .......

    Yerevan ‘Unfazed’ By Azeri Seat On UN Security Council
    Tuesday, 25 October 2011 | | |
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    RFE/RL -- Armenia’s political leadership downplayed on Tuesday the significance of Azerbaijan’s membership in the UN Security Council, saying that it will have no impact on the resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Azerbaijan secured a first-ever seat on the council late on Monday after getting 155 votes in the 193-nation UN General Assembly. It will join Pakistan, Morocco, Guatemala and Togo as temporary members of the 15-nation council in January for a two-year term.
    Slovenia and Azerbaijan along with Hungary were vying for a seat reserved for Eastern Europe. Azerbaijan’s victory was confirmed after Slovenia, dropped out of the race. Slovene Foreign Minister Samuel Zbogar said his country “did not approve” of how the elections were held, although he failed to elaborate.In a special statement issued on the occasion, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev hailed the development as a “great victory” for his nation.

    “The number of our friends around the world is growing,” he said.Aliyev did not specify whether his government will use the Security Council seat to advance a Karabakh settlement desired by the Azerbaijani side.

    ​​In 2008, Baku pushed through the UN General Assembly a non-binding resolution that referred to Karabakh as an internationally recognized part of Azerbaijan and demanded an “immediate, complete and unconditional withdrawal of Armenian forces” from occupied Azerbaijani lands. The resolution was backed by 39 mostly Muslim states.Armenia’s government, which is strongly opposed to any UN involvement in the Karabakh conflict mediation, did not officially react to Azerbaijan’s election to the Security Council as of Tuesday evening. But senior representatives of President Serzh Sarkisian’s Republican Party of Armenia (HHK) did comment on the issue.

    In a speech in the Armenian parliament, Eduard Sharmazanov, the chief HHK spokesman and a senior parliamentarian, said Baku won the council seat thanks to support from “Muslim and third-world countries.”

    “This fact cannot have any serious influence on the resolution of the Artsakh (Karabakh) conflict because the countries co-chairing the OSCE Minsk Group are permanent members of the Security Council and their views are in tune with Armenia’s position [on Karabakh,]” Sharmazanov said, referring to the United States, Russia and France.

    The three mediating powers voted against the 2008 resolution on Karabakh at the General Assembly. They also convinced Baku to withdraw a similar draft resolution from the assembly agenda in September 2010.Hovannes Sahakian, another HHK lawmaker, likewise told RFE/RL’s Armenian service (Azatutyun.am) that Baku cannot influence the Karabakh peace process through the council. He said that the Minsk Group will remain the main international body trying to end the conflict.

    Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian appeared resigned to the Azerbaijani membership of the UN’s key decision-making body when he spoke at a news conference in Yerevan last month. He said it would run counter to the Security Council’s mission to promote international peace, pointing to Baku’s regular threats to end the Karabakh conflict by force.

    “This will not add anything to the reputation of the Security Council,” Nalbandian said. “Quite the opposite.”
    Does anybody have list of countries that supported Azerbaijan in their membership?

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  • Tigranakert
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    D. Jamalyan: Aliyev’s clan deeply concerned with Armenia’s military potential

    “Azerbaijan’s propaganda held in the last few months can be described as discrediting anything which gives advantages to Armenia and which cannot be adequately responded in Baku. Aliyev’s administration exercises this tactics in the context of Armenian-Russian alliance. Describing Armenia as “Russia’s outpost” has become a pivotal attribute for the experts in Baku. Probably this tactics is greatly signified in Azerbaijan, as Ilahm Aliyev has also used this propaganda cliché,” said military expert Davit Jamalyan to Panorama.am referring to Azerbaijan’s statements on military parade held in Armenia.

    Azerbaijan’s president has made remarks Monday on the military parade held in Armenia. Referring to the participation of Russian military group in the parade, Aliyev has said that Armenia has confirmed its role of outpost for Russia. Azerbaijan’s president has also condemned the military equipment displayed in the parade.

    “This campaign is addressed to their domestic audience, and to “confirm” that compared with Armenia, Azerbaijan is an independent state, and to create an impression that Armenian-Russian military alliance cannot become an obstacle for “the restoration of Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity”.

    Azerbaijan understands the advantages that Armenian-Russian alliance has – installation of alliance’s armed forces along the border line, improvement of Armenia’s military industry, delivery of modern armaments at affordable prices.

    To conclude, if Baku looks for arguments to discredit our military parade, then it becomes obvious that Aliyev’s clan is deeply concerned with the military potential of our country, said the expert.

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  • Mos
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    interesting article

    Strategic probing: in Israel, waiting for a secret emissary of Armenia


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    25.10.2011 00:20, Igor Gantman
    Despite the close ties of Jerusalem and Baku, and Yerevan and Tehran, Israel remains a senior representative of Armenia in order to verify the possibility of cooperation in strategic issues. The regional policy of Ankara is favorable background for this.
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    At the end of October - early November, is scheduled to visit Israel in the high-ranking official of the RA authorized to discuss the political and strategic reasons. Judging by the number of indirect evidence, in particular its objective is to test the prospects for relations in the military sphere, at least in the limited format.

    Preparation of the visit by the Division "Eurasia-2" for Central European and Eurasian Israeli Foreign Minister, responsible for relations with South Caucasus and Central Asia. However, please contact the press service of the Foreign Ministry to clarify the purpose of their visit of the Armenian official, we received the following response: "So far, the ministry is not interested in having to respond on this visit." In turn, the non-resident Ambassador to Armenia Shmuel Kiryat generally refused to apply on the issue.

    As reported by the portal IzRus, in recent years amid growing confrontation between Turkey and Israel's political class and the Armenian community of experts were divided on the issue of development of relations with the xxxish state. Some people believe that you should use the conflict between Ankara and Jerusalem, to advance their own interests, in particular to consolidate its position in the Middle East. Opponents of this view, in turn, noted that Israel is in the Armenian issue is guided purely opportunistic reasons and has no genuine intention to establish close ties with Armenia.

    And while both countries were now "on one side of the fence" in regard to their uneasy relations with Turkey, a more significant geopolitical factors hindering the development of bilateral cooperation. Thus, the strategic partner of Israel in the South Caucasus, and the largest importer of Israeli military products in the CIS is Azerbaijan. The same place is Armenia in the regional politics of Iran.

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