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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Hakob View Post
    I think, our military is countering to some sort of intelligence information about azery military planning (war initiation?) and forcing azeris to consider their economic cost. It is abvious that azerbaijan may become so intoxicated with its oil wealth that it deviates from oil exporting countie's military doctrines, that is mainly protecting oil productions.
    Seriousely, if you copare the economic losses for both of us, azeri losses (targets) could be huge. Our's is mainly the NPP, which can be shut down in a matter of hours and controlling or minimizing the danger.
    Azerbaijan, minhwile will come to the same mentality as saudis or quveitis. Trembling over the thought of anybody destroying their oil rigs.
    But even with 1/10 with its money , Azeris will still have more than Armenia has .

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by haydavid View Post
        But even with 1/10 with its money , Azeris will still have more than Armenia has .
        s/azeris/aliyev clan/, the average azeri dont eat much more food or have more cars than the average armenian.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
          s/azeris/aliyev clan/, the average azeri dont eat much more food or have more cars than the average armenian.
          I know, you are totally right but what I meant is that they spent 4billion dollars anually , and even if they reduce it to 1/10 it will be 400 million dollars anually , just like us.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Defense Army of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.
            On the frontline






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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              it says russia sold/gave (idk) 84 T72 to Armenia in 1994-96, 31 T72B to Georgia in 1994-95 and 62 T72B to azerbaijan in 2006-07

              Armenian Military Portal

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by HyeFighter2 View Post
                it says russia sold/gave (idk) 84 T72 to Armenia in 1994-96, 31 T72B to Georgia in 1994-95 and 62 T72B to azerbaijan in 2006-07

                The infograph probably cites the article below. A հրեայ scumbag named lev rokhlin, a former military officer who was elected to the Russian Duma during the Yeltsin era, disclosed that Russia had granted about a billion dollars worth of military aid to Armenia. հրեայ rokhlin made the disclosure in 1997, and he was shot dead in his bed in 1998.


                The Washington Times

                Thursday, April 10, 1997

                Armenia Armed by Russia for battles with Azerbaijan

                Scandal compared to Iran-Contra


                By: Martin Sieff
                The WASHINGTON TIMES

                Russia secretly has shipped more than $1 billion worth of arms to Armenia,
                apparently to be used against - pro-Western Azerbaijan and - to force the
                Azeris -and their strategic oil reserves into Russia's orbit.

                Aman Tuleyev, minister for relations with the Commonwealth of Independent
                States, has acknowledged that Moscow supplied Armenia with 84 T-72 main
                battle tanks, 72 heavy howitzers, 24 Scud missiles with eight launchers,
                50 armored personnel carriers and millions of rounds of ammunition.

                Lev Rokhlin, the chairman of the Defense Committee of the Duma, the lower
                House of the Russian parliament, told a closed Duma session April 2 that
                Moscow had -shipped $1 billion worth of weapons to the tough, nationalist
                government of President Levon Ter-Petrosian in Yerevan. His report was
                similar to Mr. Tuleyev's acknowledgment.

                Between 1992 and early 1994, when the conflict was at its height, Russian
                heavy transport aircraft were said to have ferried 1,300 tons of
                ammunition across the Caucasus to the Armenian capital. Most of the tanks
                were flown in aboard giant Antonov planes from the city of Akhtubinsk.

                The Azeris say Russia also supplied 1,000 hand-fired Strela-2 and Strela-3
                anti-aircraft missiles, which were moved by ship across The Caspian Sea,
                then sent over land through Iran to Armenia. Iran has denied playing any
                role.

                Western intelligence sources said The weapons played a crucial role in
                Armenia's, seizure of large areas of Azerbaijan, which created a million
                refugees, more than from any other conflict in Europe since World War II.
                Although Russia's military support for Armenia in its long conflict with
                Azerbaijan has been well-known, the extent of the arms transfers came as a
                surprise.

                Responding to the revelations, Russian President Boris Yeltsin ordered a
                major government probe Saturday that could implicate his longtime defense
                minister, Marshal Pavel Grachev who was fired last spring.

                Russian military prosecutors are considering calling Marshal Grachev in
                for questioning over the scandal, which has been compared to The
                Iran-Contra affair.

                The- chairman of the Azeri parliament, Murtuz Alesketov, said Saturday the
                arms shipments could destabilize the Caucasus. "If these arms are not
                returned, this could lead to a new large-scale war in the region" he said
                at parliamentary hearings in Baku.

                Since the collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of 1991, Shi'ite Muslim
                Azerbaijan has eagerly courted American oil companies to help it develop
                the immense oil and gas reserves of the Caspian Sea, estimated as second
                in size and value only to those in the Persian Gulf.

                Russia has responded by backing Orthodox Christian Armenia, its historic
                ally.

                On March 29, shortly after Mr. Yeltsin's Helsinki summit with President
                Clinton, the Russian leader finalized a treaty of friendship and strategic
                partnership with Mr. Ter-Petrosian.

                The move came after Mr. - Ter-Petrosian alarmed Azerbaijan by appointing
                The hard-line leader of ethnic Armenian Nagorno-Karabakh, a region of
                Azerbajjan, as prime minister of Armenia, a move widely regarded as paving
                the way for a renewed attack on Azerbaijan.

                There are at least 20,000 Russian 4th Army troops in Armenia concentrated
                around three major bases.

                Ivan Rybkin, head of Russia's Security Council, said after a meeting in
                Moscow with Mr. Ter-Petrosian on March 27 that the new bilateral treaty
                would have a "military component", the Moscow newspaper Nezavisimaya
                Gazeta reported March 28.

                Some Moscow analysts believe that Defense Minister Igor Rodionov and his
                supporters leaked details of the arms deals now to prevent Mr. Yeltsin
                from bringing back Marshal Grachev as chief military inspector at the
                Defense Ministry, the independent Moscow newspaper Segodnya said.

                http://www.oocities.org/capitolhill/5078/arms1.htm
                Follow my comments on the blog http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  very good article, thx, would be nice if russia would arm Armenia as west did with georgia (modern arms) than we will take oil
                  Armenian Military Portal

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Sarkis86 View Post
                    The infograph probably cites the article below. A հրեայ scumbag named lev rokhlin, a former military officer who was elected to the Russian Duma during the Yeltsin era, disclosed that Russia had granted about a billion dollars worth of military aid to Armenia. հրեայ rokhlin made the disclosure in 1997, and he was shot dead in his bed in 1998.
                    From the article Sarkis linked:

                    "Lev Rokhlin, the chairman of the Defense Committee of the Duma, the lower
                    House of the Russian parliament, told a closed Duma session April 2 that
                    Moscow had -shipped $1 billion worth of weapons to the tough, nationalist
                    government of President Levon Ter-Petrosian
                    in Yerevan. His report was
                    similar to Mr. Tuleyev's acknowledgment."

                    Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      i believe that levon sold 50% of that vehicles, he also jhud akhtoti mege
                      Armenian Military Portal

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