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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Federate View Post
    It's not confirmed. Anyway, there was a Russian "base" (actually a radar station) at this same location until a few years ago and it did not change anything in terms of Russian relations w/ Armenia vis-a-vis Azerbaijan. Also to add that the radar station is exclusive for usage by Russia and is meant for long range missile detection. It is not connected to Azerbaijan's air defense grid.

    That said, maybe Armenia can offer to host this same type of radar station on its soil if it covers the appropriate range that Russia wants by placing it in Azerbaijan.
    I doubt that Russia will deploy this kind of radar stations in Armenia, because we are close to Turkey (Nato) and it could be easily targeted.
    Last edited by Spetsnaz; 08-19-2015, 12:00 AM.

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      http://armenpress.am/eng/news/815654...y-uchebiy.html

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        Originally posted by argin View Post
        This railway can help in regards of military and moving of equipment.why would Russia appose it tho?

        Armenia PM: We’ll construct Iran-Armenia railway despite Russia’s stance
        [ 19 August 2015 11:42 ]

        “We also have our own interests”

        Baku. Turbet Baghirova – APA. Of course, the construction of Iran-Armenia railway may not be in the interests of our neighbors, but we must still construct it, Armenia’s PM Hovik Abrahamyan told Armenian News –NEWS.am, touching on the perspectives of Iran-Armenia railway and Russia’s stance over that issue.

        In his words, Armenia and Russia are strategic allies and members of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU). “But we also have our own interests - the interests of our people and homeland – and I’m ready to discuss the issue with them as a partner,” Abrahamyan said.

        Iran-Armenia railway has a very important strategic significance for Armenia and its economy, the PM said. “And we’ll do that, regardless of whether it offends anyone or is not in their interests. The fact is that the successful completion of the construction will contribute to the economic activation and development of business in our country,” Abrahamyan said.
        Armenia has no rail access to Russia at the moment. The railway going from Yerevan to Tbilisi to Sochi is cut off in Abkhazia and has been since the 92-93 Abkhazia-Georgia war. Reopening of the Abkhazia railway can be the biggest savior of the Armenian economy. Practically everything about Armenia would change if that railway ever opened. But until that day, Armenia and Iran being reconnected by railway does no good for Russia, as it only drive Armenia away from its sphere of influence.

        http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....rmenia-Railway

        With that said, that's bullxxxx Azerbaijani news, Russia has never made statements opposing the Iran-Armenia Railway, and the company that has rights to its construction is a Russian company.
        <<եթե զենք էլ չլինի' ես քարերով կկրվեմ>>

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          Actually Mher there have been Russian officials who called the railway a bad idea, inefficient, too costly...This is one area where the interests of Armenia and Russia diverge although this may change if the Georgian link is reopened. Besides the Turkish blockades, the bad blood between Georgia and Russia is our biggest economic problem. The Georgian problem is a product of western interference ie,Shakasville. If the railway between Armenia and Iran is built there will be another new factor to consider. This would make Georgia even more important as goods from the gulf can be transported to the black sea. This would tie the economies of many nations togather. Russia may not mind it if Georgia was under its influence (might actually benefit from and ecourage it) but the hostile present day relations mean Russia is very much opposed to it for now. This is a great example of how western actions have hurt our interests and the dim witted or bought off dushes blame Russia as usual.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Mher View Post
            Armenia has no rail access to Russia at the moment. The railway going from Yerevan to Tbilisi to Sochi is cut off in Abkhazia and has been since the 92-93 Abkhazia-Georgia war. Reopening of the Abkhazia railway can be the biggest savior of the Armenian economy. Practically everything about Armenia would change if that railway ever opened. But until that day, Armenia and Iran being reconnected by railway does no good for Russia, as it only drive Armenia away from its sphere of influence.

            http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....rmenia-Railway

            With that said, that's bullxxxx Azerbaijani news, Russia has never made statements opposing the Iran-Armenia Railway, and the company that has rights to its construction is a Russian company.



            Well Said !
            Your Armenian Lion

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

              Մարտական հերթապահության կանոնների խախտման պատճառով արձակված կրակահերթից մահացել է զինծառայող
              Օգոստոս 19, 2015

              Օգոստոսի 18-ին՝ ժամը 23:40-ի սահմաններում, ՀՀ ՊՆ զորամասերից մեկի մարտական հենակետում մարտական հերթապահություն կրելու կանոնները խախտելու հետևանքով արձակված կրակահերթի պատճառով ստացած հրազենային վնասվածքներից տեղում մահացել է նույն զորամասի պայմանագրային զինծառայող, 1990 թ. ծնված Աշոտ Հովհաննիսյանը: Այս մասին հայտնում է ՀՀ քննչական կոմիտեի կայքը:

              Դեպքի առթիվ ՀՀ ՔԿ զինվորական քննչական գլխավոր վարչությունում հարուցվել է քրեական գործ՝ ՀՀ քրեական օրենսգրքի 365-րդ հոդվածի 3-րդ մասով (մարտական հերթապահություն կամ մարտական ծառայություն կրելու կանոնները խախտելը՝ որն առաջացրել է ծանր հետևանքներ)։

              Նախաքննության արդյունքների մասին տեղեկություն կտրամադրվի լրացուցիչ։

              http://razm.info/69545

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Mher View Post
                Armenia has no rail access to Russia at the moment. The railway going from Yerevan to Tbilisi to Sochi is cut off in Abkhazia and has been since the 92-93 Abkhazia-Georgia war. Reopening of the Abkhazia railway can be the biggest savior of the Armenian economy. Practically everything about Armenia would change if that railway ever opened. But until that day, Armenia and Iran being reconnected by railway does no good for Russia, as it only drive Armenia away from its sphere of influence.

                http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....rmenia-Railway

                With that said, that's bullxxxx Azerbaijani news, Russia has never made statements opposing the Iran-Armenia Railway, and the company that has rights to its construction is a Russian company.


                Armenia PM: We’ll construct Iran-Armenia railway despite anyone’s interests

                YEREVAN. - Of course, the construction of Iran-Armenia railway may not be in the interests of our neighbors, but we must [still] construct it, Armenia’s PM Hovik Abrahamyan told Armenian News – NEWS.am, touching on the perspectives of Iran-Armenia railway and Russia’s stance over that issue. In his words, Armenia and Russia are strategic allies and members of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU). “But we also have our own interests - the interests of our people and homeland – and I’m ready to discuss the issue with them as a partner,” Abrahamyan said. Iran-Armenia railway has a very important strategic significance for Armenia and its economy, the PM said. “And we’ll do that, regardless of whether it offends anyone or is not in their interests. The fact is that the successful completion of the construction will contribute to the economic activation and development of business in our country,” Abrahamyan said. - See more at: http://news.am/eng/news/282042.html#....ikd5lBIH.dpuf

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                  RUSSIA'S CONTEST WITH THE WEST HEATS UP IN THE CAUCASUS

                  Stratfor
                  Aug 19 2015

                  Geopolitical Diary
                  August 19, 2015

                  Just as signs indicate that the conflict in Ukraine is escalating, the
                  standoff between Russia and the West also appears to be intensifying
                  farther east in the former Soviet periphery. On Tuesday, Georgian
                  Defense Minister Tina Khidasheli met with U.S. Secretary of Defense
                  Ashton Carter at the Pentagon, ahead of the inauguration of a new NATO
                  training center in Georgia before the end of August. The day before
                  the meeting, reports emerged that Russia is planning on opening a new
                  military radar station in Azerbaijan in 2017. Though these reports
                  are unconfirmed and may not be entirely reliable, coupled with the
                  opening of a NATO training center, they suggest the Caucasus could
                  soon experience some important changes.

                  The Southern Caucasus region -- comprising the states of Georgia,
                  Armenia and Azerbaijan -- is no stranger to the standoff between Moscow
                  and the West. Indeed, it was the Russo-Georgian War of August 2008 that
                  marked Russia's resurgence as a regional power and exposed the West's
                  unwillingness to defend a country that was formally aligned with both
                  the European Union and NATO. After the war, Russia was able to use
                  divisions within NATO and the U.S. preoccupation with the wars in Iraq
                  and Afghanistan to re-establish influence throughout much of the former
                  Soviet periphery, from Central and Eastern Europe to Central Asia.

                  What is a Geopolitical Diary?

                  This was particularly true in the Caucasus, where Russia used the war
                  with Georgia as a means to formalize and strengthen its military and
                  political influence in the breakaway territories of Abkhazia and South
                  Ossetia. Russia also shored up its military presence in Armenia and
                  gained an even stronger economic and political position there. The
                  one weak spot for Russia was Azerbaijan, which instead of aligning
                  with Moscow chose to use its wealth of energy resources and strategic
                  location to gain concessions from several regional powers, including
                  Russia, Turkey and the West. But Russia's military presence in both
                  Georgia and Armenia effectively served as a check against Azerbaijan,
                  and Baku was well aware that Moscow was the dominant external power
                  in the region.

                  However, the West would not give Russia a free hand to keep expanding
                  its influence in the former Soviet periphery. In the Euromaidan
                  uprising in Ukraine, the United States and European Union supported
                  the removal of a pro-Russian government in Kiev in favor of one that
                  was oriented toward the West. And Western powers made clear that
                  their support would not be limited to Ukraine: Particularly after
                  Russia annexed Crimea and opted to support a separatist rebellion
                  in eastern Ukraine, the West began to build up militarily in Central
                  and Eastern Europe and expand security cooperation with several other
                  countries in the former Soviet periphery.

                  This expansion has been most obvious in Ukraine, but it has not ended
                  there. Georgian troops have participated in significantly more joint
                  military exercises with NATO and U.S. forces since the Ukraine conflict
                  began. And although Georgia has not been granted the NATO membership
                  it has so actively sought, the alliance will open a military training
                  center in the country during a visit from NATO Secretary-General Jens
                  Stoltenberg at the end of August. The opening of the center is bound
                  to be as unpalatable to Russia as it is a welcome vindication for
                  Georgia, a country that felt abandoned by the alliance during its
                  own war with Russia just seven years ago.

                  Moscow will be particularly displeased because Russia's once-dominant
                  position in the Caucasus has been tested during the Ukraine crisis.

                  Since the start of the fighting in Ukraine, the territorial conflict
                  between Armenia and Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh -- which had been
                  relatively dormant for the past two decades -- has intensified. This is
                  probably not a coincidence; Russia's ability to arbitrate and shape the
                  conflict to its liking has been strained. Normally, Russia's military
                  presence in Armenia and strong position in the Caucasus overall
                  was enough to maintain the peace. However, the Europeans have been
                  courting Azerbaijan more ardently as an alternative energy supplier,
                  allowing Azerbaijan to gain leverage even as Russia is losing economic
                  and political standing. This could explain why Azerbaijan has, over
                  the past year, become much more aggressive in testing the status quo
                  on the line of contact with the Armenians and why Yerevan and its
                  backers in Moscow have done relatively little to respond.

                  Normally, we would expect Russia to lambast Azerbaijan for its
                  aggressive actions and boost support for its ally, Armenia, but it has
                  done neither. Instead, Russia has called on Armenia and Azerbaijan
                  to maintain a dialogue over Nagorno-Karabak, and Russian officials
                  have said Moscow will maintain weapons supplies to both countries. At
                  the same time, Russia has increased its security cooperation with
                  Azerbaijan; Russian artillery ships paid a friendly visit to the Baku
                  port from Aug. 13-16, and defense officials from Russia and Azerbaijan
                  have held numerous bilateral meetings in recent months.

                  Given this context, an Aug. 17 report from TV Zvezda claiming that
                  Russia plans to deploy a Voronezh-DM early warning radar in Azerbaijan
                  in 2017 caught our attention. There are numerous reasons to seriously
                  question this report; neither Russian nor Azerbaijani officials have
                  confirmed it. Moreover, Zvezda, a radio and television station operated
                  by the Russian Ministry of Defense, has been known to broadcast Russian
                  propaganda and occasional disinformation. In fact, the Russians have
                  little practical need for a military radar station in Azerbaijan since
                  they have built up other early warning assets covering the Caucasus
                  region since they lost the use of Azerbaijan's Gabala station in 2012.

                  This is not to say that the radar deployment or other forms of military
                  cooperation between Moscow and Baku are out of the question.

                  The situation in the Caucasus is fluid and complex. The recent
                  developments in the Caucasus raise more questions than answers, but
                  they are undoubtedly meaningful components in the evolution of the
                  broader standoff between Russia and the West.

                  https://www.stratfor.com/geopolitica...heats-caucasus
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                    Are any of you guys here on twitter?

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                      70 Armenian fighters join Syrian Kurds in war on ISIS
                      July 3, 2015

                      The Armenian fighter Barkhodan speaking to ARA News in Sere Kaniye, northeastern Syria
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                      Sere Kaniye, Syria – Dozens of fighters from different nationalities have joined the ranks of the Kurdish forces in Syria and Iraq in order to combat militants of the Islamic State (IS/ISIS).

                      An Armenian fighter in the ranks of the Kurdish forces of the People’s Protection Units (YPG), nicknamed Barkhodan, came to Syria nearly two years ago and joint the fight against ISIS.

                      “I am 55 years old, I came to Syria along with 70 Armenian young men, and we joined the ranks of the YPG more than two years ago,” he told ARA News, pointing out that they have been deployed on various positions at battle fronts in accordance with their military expertise.

                      “We are fighting here in defense of the Armenian people from the risk of IS extremists, we do not differentiate between Arabs, Kurds, Christians and Muslims,” he said.

                      “The main reason for many foreign fighters to be here (northern Syria) is the necessity to eliminate the enemies of humanity (in reference to ISIS militants).”

                      “ISIS is killing women and children. What happened in Kobane several days ago when they killed hundreds of innocent people is the biggest motivation for me to fight those barbarians, despite my old age,” Barkhodan told ARA News.

                      “When we fight alongside the YPG forces, this actually raises the overall morale among Kurds in the war on terrorism,” he added.

                      In Syria, hundreds of foreign members of the YPG have formed what is known as “Lions of Rojava” (Lions of Syrian Kurdistan). They combat ISIS in several areas in Syria’s Kurdish region alongside Kurdish forces.

                      Recently, foreign fighters of YPG formed a battalion under the banner “World Freedom” in Sere Kaniye (Ras al-Ain), northeastern Syria, which includes dozens of fighters who were distributed at the anti-ISIS fighting fronts after having completed military training in YPG-held camps.

                      http://aranews.net/2015/07/70-armeni...n-war-on-isis/

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