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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    [Լրացված] Հակառակորդի կրակոցից ՊԲ զինծառայող է զոհվել․ ՊԲ
    Ապրիլ 15, 2016

    Ապրիլի 14-ի լույս 15-ի գիշերը Արցախի շփման գծում օպերատիվ իրադրությունը շարունակել է մնալ նույնը: Հակառակորդը առաջնային գծի ողջ երկայնքով տարբեր տրամաչափի հրաձգային, դիպուկահարային ու ականանետային զինատեսակներից կրակի դադարեցման շուրջ ձեռքբերված բանավոր պայմանավորվածությունը խախտել է ավելի քան 60 անգամ: Այս մասին տեղեկացնում է ՊԲ կայքը։

    Ապրիլի 14-ի գիշերը ժամը 23:20-ի սահմաններում Մարտունու ուղղությամբ հակառակորդի կրակոցից զոհվել է ՊԲ զինծառայող Մանվել Արմենի Գրիգորյանը:

    Իրավիճակն առավել անհանգիստ է եղել շփման գոտու հյուսիսային (Գյուլիստան), հյուսիսարևելյան (Թալիշ-Մարտակերտ), արևելյան (Մարտունի) և հարավային (Հադրութ) ուղղություններով, որտեղ ադրբեջանական կողմը բացի հրաձգային զինատեսակներից կիրառել է նաև 82 մմ (3 արկ), 60 մմ (12 արկ) ականանետներ և ԱԳՍ-17 տիպի նռնականետ (16 արկ):

    Հաշվի առնելով այն հանգամանքը, որ հակառակորդի կրակոցներն աստիճանաբար բերում են մարդկային կորուստների՝ ՊԲ առաջապահ ստորաբաժանումները իրենց մարտական խնդիրները կատարում են իրադրության զարգացման համահունչ և վստահորեն իրականացնում Արցախի սահմանների պաշտպանությունը:

    Առաջնային գծում տեղ գտնող միջադեպերից բխող հետևանքների ողջ պատասխանատվությունը կրում է ադրբեջանական կողմը:

    Լրացում․ ՀՀ ՊՆ կայքը հայտնում է․ Ապրիլի 14-ի լույս 15-ի գիշերը հայ-ադրբեջանական պետական սահմանագոտու հյուսիսարևելյան հատվածում գրանցվել է հրադադարի խախտման 14 միջադեպ: Ադրբեջանական կողմը տարբեր տրամաչափի հրաձգային զինատեսակներից անկանոն բնույթի կրակահերթեր է արձակել հայ դիրքապահների ուղղությամբ:

    ՀՀ ԶՈւ առաջապահ ստորաբաժանումները, ցուցաբերելով զսպվածություն, պատասխան գործողությունների են դիմել միայն խիստ անհրաժեշտության դեպքում և վստահորեն վերահսկում են սահմանային իրավիճակը:

    http://razm.info/82718

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Armenian positions in direction of Karabakh’s Talish village






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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
        Night vision items has no legal binding......even rifle/magazine parts. In US there are state laws but you could still order an Russian scope/night vision for your AK47 or AK74.
        It would be easier to export from US than bring them in.

        I have already seen some of our troops have their AK setup with EO520 red dot sight (Made in USA).
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        Mihi vindictam ego retribuam dicit Dominus

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Azad View Post
          That is a joke for the general public. With legal loopholes everything is possible.
          Originally posted by Bigdikran View Post
          Azad, laws are made to be broken !
          Lol I'm not saying it's physically impossible, I'm saying anyone posting shxt like let's donate a bunch of money on the Internet to buy military shxt should make sure they're doing it the right way. Doing anything on the Internet leaves a trail.
          Last edited by gokorik; 04-15-2016, 03:05 AM.
          Mihi vindictam ego retribuam dicit Dominus

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by argin View Post
            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWbTxoYaGg
            I'm assuming this is one reason our soldiers are not allowed to contact home,it's rumored the bus full of volunteers from sisian was hit because of Azeris hacking into telecommunications of artsakh,not sure about that I'm gonna let an expert verify the last claim
            They don't have to hack in to our telecom system. All they have to do is intercept the phone call. A cellphone emits a microwave signal that could be picked up by electronic warfare equipment. Although a hacking of our telecom system is possible, it was more likely to have been an intercepted phone call.
            Mihi vindictam ego retribuam dicit Dominus

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by gokorik View Post
              Lol I'm not saying it's physically impossible, I'm saying anyone posting shxt like let's donate a bunch of money on the Internet to buy military shxt should make sure they're doing it the right way. Doing anything on the Internet leaves a trail.
              That's how this discussion started ... By establishing ONE legitimate entity that will facilitate donations and products in a legal manner on all ends of the transactions. I agree with you for pointing out some of the restrictions. It should be done professionally and legally.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Armenia Keen To Speed Up Russian Arms Supplies


                Two weeks after a sharp escalation of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, the Armenian government moved on Friday to accelerate the purchase of new Russian-made weapons for Armenia’s armed forces with a $200 million Russian loan disbursed last year.

                Prime Minister Hovik Abrahamian’s cabinet instructed the Armenian Defense Ministry to “ascertain” the list of those weapons and negotiate corresponding supply contracts with Russian government agencies overseeing arms deals with foreign states. It said the contracts must spell out “the volumes, prices and dates of the deliveries.”

                The government also asked the Central Bank of Armenia (CBA) to quickly expedite banking operations required for the use of the $200 million loan allocated by the Russian government last June.

                Meeting with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev in Yerevan on April 7, Arbahamian complained about a “certain slowdown” in the implementation of the loan arrangement by Rosoboronexport, Russia’s state arms exporter. He asked Medvedev to tell Rosoboronexport to “conclude the contracts” with the Armenian side.

                The request came just two days after a Russian-mediated ceasefire halted the worst fighting between Karabakh Armenian and Azerbaijani forces since 1994. Many in Armenia feel that the April 2 Azerbaijani offensive in Karabakh was made possible by Russian-made offensive weapons worth more than $4 billion purchased by Baku since 2010. The escalation, which left more than 100 soldiers from both sides dead, rekindled and intensified Armenian criticism of the Russian arms sales to Armenia’s oil-rich arch-foe.

                Both Abrahamian and President Serzh Sarkisian complained about those sales during their talks with Medvedev. The Russian premier effectively rejected the criticism in his subsequent public remarks, saying that Moscow delivers weapons to both Armenia and Azerbaijan and thereby sustains the “military balance” in the Karabakh conflict zone.

                Almost two months ago, the Russian government disclosed a long list of military hardware which Yerevan will be allowed to buy with the $200 million credit. The deadliest of these weapons is the Smerch multi-launch rocket system with a firing range of up to 90 kilometers.

                The publicized list also includes TOS-1A heavy flamethrower systems that are designed to destroy defense fortifications, enemy personnel and armored vehicles with thermobaric rockets.

                Russia has reportedly sold 18 Smerch launchers and as many TOS-1A flamethrowers to Azerbaijan. The Armenian military claims that the Azerbaijani army used both systems during the April 2-5 hostilities on the Karabakh “line of contact.”

                Armenia will also be able to buy Russian-made anti-tank weapons, shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, demining and communication equipment, armored personnel carriers and heavy military trucks.

                The anti-tank systems include 9M133 guided missiles that first went into service with the Russian army in the late 1990s. The 135-milimeter rockets, also known as Kornet, can supposedly destroy tanks within a 4-kilometer range.

                Citing another Russian-Armenian accord signed in 2013, Armenian military official have repeatedly stressed that Yerevan can now acquire brand new weapons at domestic Russian prices that are well below international market-based levels. The 2015 loan agreement makes a reference to that deal.

                The military alliance with Russia has already enabled Armenia to receive many Russian weapons at discount prices or even for free over the past two decades.

                http://www.azatutyun.am/content/arti...edium=facebook

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Armenian positions in direction of Karabakh’s Talish village






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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by AstalaVist View Post
                    Armenia Keen To Speed Up Russian Arms Supplies


                    Two weeks after a sharp escalation of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, the Armenian government moved on Friday to accelerate the purchase of new Russian-made weapons for Armenia’s armed forces with a $200 million Russian loan disbursed last year.

                    Prime Minister Hovik Abrahamian’s cabinet instructed the Armenian Defense Ministry to “ascertain” the list of those weapons and negotiate corresponding supply contracts with Russian government agencies overseeing arms deals with foreign states. It said the contracts must spell out “the volumes, prices and dates of the deliveries.”

                    The government also asked the Central Bank of Armenia (CBA) to quickly expedite banking operations required for the use of the $200 million loan allocated by the Russian government last June.

                    Meeting with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev in Yerevan on April 7, Arbahamian complained about a “certain slowdown” in the implementation of the loan arrangement by Rosoboronexport, Russia’s state arms exporter. He asked Medvedev to tell Rosoboronexport to “conclude the contracts” with the Armenian side.

                    The request came just two days after a Russian-mediated ceasefire halted the worst fighting between Karabakh Armenian and Azerbaijani forces since 1994. Many in Armenia feel that the April 2 Azerbaijani offensive in Karabakh was made possible by Russian-made offensive weapons worth more than $4 billion purchased by Baku since 2010. The escalation, which left more than 100 soldiers from both sides dead, rekindled and intensified Armenian criticism of the Russian arms sales to Armenia’s oil-rich arch-foe.

                    Both Abrahamian and President Serzh Sarkisian complained about those sales during their talks with Medvedev. The Russian premier effectively rejected the criticism in his subsequent public remarks, saying that Moscow delivers weapons to both Armenia and Azerbaijan and thereby sustains the “military balance” in the Karabakh conflict zone.

                    Almost two months ago, the Russian government disclosed a long list of military hardware which Yerevan will be allowed to buy with the $200 million credit. The deadliest of these weapons is the Smerch multi-launch rocket system with a firing range of up to 90 kilometers.

                    The publicized list also includes TOS-1A heavy flamethrower systems that are designed to destroy defense fortifications, enemy personnel and armored vehicles with thermobaric rockets.

                    Russia has reportedly sold 18 Smerch launchers and as many TOS-1A flamethrowers to Azerbaijan. The Armenian military claims that the Azerbaijani army used both systems during the April 2-5 hostilities on the Karabakh “line of contact.”

                    Armenia will also be able to buy Russian-made anti-tank weapons, shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, demining and communication equipment, armored personnel carriers and heavy military trucks.

                    The anti-tank systems include 9M133 guided missiles that first went into service with the Russian army in the late 1990s. The 135-milimeter rockets, also known as Kornet, can supposedly destroy tanks within a 4-kilometer range.

                    Citing another Russian-Armenian accord signed in 2013, Armenian military official have repeatedly stressed that Yerevan can now acquire brand new weapons at domestic Russian prices that are well below international market-based levels. The 2015 loan agreement makes a reference to that deal.

                    The military alliance with Russia has already enabled Armenia to receive many Russian weapons at discount prices or even for free over the past two decades.

                    http://www.azatutyun.am/content/arti...edium=facebook
                    9M133 Kornet? Wasn't it Konkurs-M???

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Mher View Post
                      It would be really important to do this in an organized way, so money and effort doesn't get wasted. When the fighting started, every person decided to start their own fundraiser and somehow make it about themselves. I even saw people collecting shampoos and blankets to ship. If all that money had gone to one or two reputable organizations, a lot more could have been done.

                      So I hope all of this is being done with coordination of the military, and they are meeting actual needs, and doing so in the most efficient way.
                      Mher Jan I couldn't agree with you any more. My friend saw people organizing canned food drives, gauze, blankets etc... All in good faith of course, but having served in the military, he knew none of this was useful. First, these things are readily available in Armenia and could be purchased for pennies on the dollar. Secondly, it doesn't help save lives, nor does it provide us with improved offensive/defensive capabilities. It can also be a logistical nightmare. He spoke to someone from the ministry of defense in Armenia, I won't say with whom publicly on this forum. But he is a high ranking official. After their conversation, he decided to start a GoFundMe to buy Celox. Google this product if you are not familiar with it. It stops severe bleeding within seconds and cuts battlefield deaths due to bleeding by 80 percent (if not more). I think the US special forces use this stuff too. We contacted several Armenian accounts on Instagram, Facebook, and other social media. All promised they would help promote this campaign but didn't. We later discovered one was accepting donations for first aid kits (as if band aids and some gauze are going to help in a war zone), the other was posting about a auto leasing company that was promising to donate $100 for every new car leased from them. The car leasing thing really pissed us off. People are trying to catch fish from murky waters. Basically, people are making it about themselves and just really wasting money. We need someone to organize something that either helps save lives or gives our military some sort of offensive/defensive improvement.

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