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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by burjuin View Post
    Armenian Army:

    are that BTR-80 ?


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      PM Sarkisian Inspects Karabakh Armenian Frontline Troops

      Nagorno-Karabakh - Armenian Prime Minister Tigran Sarkisian walks through a frontline trench, 2Aug2011.

      Prime Minister Tigran Sarkisian inspected Armenian frontline positions east of Nagorno-Karabakh and hailed soldiers serving there as “heroes” on Tuesday on the second day of his visit to the disputed territory.

      Video footage and photographs released by the Armenian government’s press office showed a camouflage-clad Sarkisian walking through a fortified trench at an undisclosed section of the Armenian-Azerbaijani “line of contact” around Karabakh. He was also shown driving a battle tank and practicing shooting at a nearby Karabakh Armenian army unit.

      Nagorno-Karabakh - Armenian Prime Minister Tigran Sarkisian drives a tank near Karabakh Armenian frontline positions, 2Aug2011.

      Sarkisian, accompanied by Armenia’s Defense Minister Seyran Ohanian and Karabakh’s top military commander, Lieutenant General Movses Hakobian, then addressed the unit’s personnel.

      “Dear soldiers, you must be proud of serving in Nagorno-Karabakh’s Defense Army and being representatives of a victorious army,” the office quoted him as telling them. “You must continue the traditions which your parents established by winning the fight for Nagorno-Karabakh.”

      “The government of the Republic of Armenia will spare no effort to ensure that you have all the possibilities of enhancing your combat-readiness … What you are doing here is a heroic act,” added the prime minister.

      Nagorno-Karabakh - Armenian Prime Minister Tigran Sarkisian practices shooting at a Karabakh Armenian army unit, 2Aug2011.

      Sarkisian mentioned Azerbaijan’s growing threats to forcibly win back Karabakh and Armenian-controlled territories surrounding it when he spoke to journalists later in the day.

      “What is now happening in the Armenian armed forces is vivid proof of the fact that we are on the right track,” he said. “We have to continue working hard, to increase our [combat] skills, which is what takes places today.”

      The Armenian premier traveled to Karabakh for talks with the unrecognized republic’s government leaders that focused on economic issues. They specifically discussed ways of supporting agriculture and food processing, the backbone of the local economy.

      Sarkisian wrapped up the trip on Tuesday with a meeting with Karabakh farmers and government officials dealing with agriculture.
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            Originally posted by ArmeniaR1 View Post
            you know that he is gay? XD


            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Don't try to be funny with writing idioting things..
              think before posting..


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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Hyefighter this forum isn't here for your pleasure or amusement. If you have data or a reasonable question go ahead. Stop abusing the forum.
                  Anyone know how capable the PMU-2 radar's are at detecting and/or zeroing in on the source of our WM-80's or our "future" SMERCH? If they could, that would be a valuable asset is their counter battery capability.
                  Anyone aware of Armenia's hardware in the field of artillery detection?
                  Last edited by gokorik; 08-02-2011, 10:25 PM.
                  Mihi vindictam ego retribuam dicit Dominus


                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Good call on that Aerostar UAV photo gokorik.
                    B0zkurt Hunter


                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Analysis: Azerbaijan, Karabakh Well-Protected Against Air Attack; Armenia Less So
                      August 2, 2011 - 6:22pm, by Joshua Kucera

                      Google Earth, via IMINT & Analysis
                      Satellite photos of air defense systems in Nagorno Karabakh.

                      Militaries in the former USSR are among the most secretive in the world, but our new information age is creating some opportunities to peek behind the curtain a bit. One of my favorite examples is the open-source military analysis by the folks at IMINT & Analysis, who pore over Google Earth satellite imagery of air defense systems and try to come to some conclusions. In the most recent issue of their newsletter (subscription only, but free, viewable as a Google Doc here) they look at Azerbaijan's systems, and the news isn't good for Armenia. After looking at the various systems Azerbaijan has, they conclude:

                      This well organised overlapping [air defense] system will deny Armenia any chance of sorties within Azerbaijan’s territory along the Nagorno Karabagh border. Its air force will cover the gaps for the protection for the rest of the nation if Armenia takes desperate measures to inflict extra losses. For the time being Armenia’s limited air arm provides no real threat for any strikes within Azeri territory, the only threat being the R-17 [Scud missiles].
                      The Scud missiles could be used in an attack on Baku's oil infrastructure, the analysis continues:

                      Baku’s main concern is Armenia’s R-17 (SCUD) [short-range ballistic missile] inventory. The major powers all have interest in this oil rich area and currently American interests have helped develop part of Azerbaijan’s navy with radars, military supervision and many joint military exercises. Armenia’s limited number of ballistic missiles will only strike Azerbaijan with psychological damage as the accuracy (CEP) will be a limiting factor and cannot guarantee the total destruction of the oil fields. A barrage of semi accurate strikes on the oil fields might damage infrastructure and could possibly cause considerable dollars in ecological and infrastructure damage. The rumors of procurement of the S-300PMU-1 (SA-20A GARGOYLE) by Azerbaijan would give them [anti-tactical ballistic missile] capability against the R-17, though those talks have only been rumors so far.
                      This was apparently written before the recent military parade in Baku, in which Azerbaijan's S-300 acquisition was confirmed. Since that fills the largest apparent gap in Azerbaijan's air defense system, they seem well covered now.

                      Of course, this would only come into play if Armenia decided to widen a war, started by Azerbaijan to recover Karabakh, into Azerbaijan proper. And the Armenians' air defense systems are probably still too potent for Azerbaijan to successfully attack. This is the third, and presumably final, installment in IMINT &Analysis's series on the air defense implications of a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. One earlier report from the same analysts reported approvingly on Karabakh's air defense:

                      In a modern context, the network represents a limited threat to current combat aircraft, but the air arm of Azerbaijan relies primarily on a limited number of Soviet-era combat aircraft, the exception being recent
                      MiG-29 (FULCRUM) fighters delivered via the Ukraine. In this light, particularly given the lack of a high-intensity air war at any point during the conflict, the SAM systems deployed in and around Nagorno-Karabakh remain a deterrent to future aggression.
                      And another report identified some gaps in Armenia's coverage:

                      Overall Armenia’s air defence seems to be robust given the nature of the threat it faces and the systems on hand. Compared to Syria, whose overlapping [surface-to-air missile] coverage relies on legacy S-75 and S-125 batteries, Armenia SAM capability is more sophisticated against [tactical ballistic missiles], cruise missiles and modern fighter aircraft. Compared to Iran, it does not have sizeable gaps to provide aircraft with [electronic countermeasures] packages to move freely. The small size of the nation provides an advantage to the deployed assets. In a true modern context with an unlimited strike package, Armenia’s air defence can be oversaturated. With over 500 modern aircraft in the Turkish air force inventory and the limited scope of the S-300PT against a salvo of modern cruise missiles it will have it shortfalls. Armenia will be forced to be content with the losses it would inflict on the enemy, as only a very strong modern ECM package might just disrupt some of it guidance of missiles. Armenia will still have opportunity to provide losses to the enemy with Russian S-300V1 and Armenian S-300P-series systems.

                      Modernization should be a must for Armenia as this will inevitably help Armenia provide itself with a modern SAM network not reliant on Russian support. Various modern SAM upgrades will significantly improve its coverage.
                      Of course, a Turkish air attack on Armenia is pretty hard to imagine. The report does note that eastern Armenia is not well covered by SAM systems, and thus could be vulnerable to Azerbaijani air attack. That, though, would widen the war more than Azerbaijan may want. An attack on Armenia proper could trigger the Collective Security Treaty Organization's collective defense provision, and bring Russia and other CSTO members into the fight. Would Azerbaijan want to take that risk?