Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

[Serjik]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

You guys have a very funny way of making a proud armo feel comfortable here. I mean Im speaking my mind to someone that is a fake and making he is making a fool of you guys. For example if he is realy from Armenia he will know that it was Vazgen Sarkisian that was promoting armenicum besides what does armenicum have anything to do with the topic here?

and the jackass award of the month goes to our friend Serjik, lol.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Have you seen me ever defending Serj Sargsian or any oligarkhs?
In order to defend "lragir" you are puting Serjik's character out. ---- Who does not know that? But what has it to do with what we were discussing?
What has Armenicum or any aother stupidity to do with blatant and low level propaganda outlet?
I do not like the comment that kid "serjik" put and insulted you, let me say that first. Like Artashes says, no necessary to be rud and disrespect each other.
I will continue on the thread that you have started just to justify "lragir".

You were accusing the Lragir of slandering the Government, isn't it, and complaining once again about the container, not the content.
Our Government=Serjik, or else we do not live in the same world.
I just said, that the cricism IN THE ARTICLES I QUOTE, is very founded, in my view.
If you do not agree, than I invite you as always, to counter the arguments.
And I would be so happy, if the reality was not such bleak...., and you could inform us of the slanderous character of the POINTS, IN THE ARTICLES I QUOTE ++++

PS: Forget about that kid, I just, exceptionally replied, since he was slandering the memory of a passed away man, who might have a lot of defaults, but certainly not stupid gambler character, to fell in the Armenicum trap , his two feet joined. Some in his kind here have the capacity to state, that "Mount Ararat is not solid rock made, but Ice....",

[Hakob]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Dear, You are turning things upside down.
You would be better inspired, if you conter the arguments of the article, rather than the container, as you do so often.
Vrej, please read my post one more time for what am I really saying. You are asking an irrelevant question, because I am accusing lragir of criticizing (criticizing is not enough word) our government of not negotiating with Iran exactly now, when relations of Iran and west are thawing. Why was not lragir critisizing government before, about not trying to buy more gas or getting more close relationship with Iran? Why not then, but now when it's safe with west to criticize our government with this subject?
Before current Iran-west thawing, it would not serve western interests to bring the subject of closer relations with Iran for a euroservant "lragir" right?
Badalian automatically admits "Whatever Iran has stated or not stated for three years is one thing, and what it is saying now is something else. Iran has a new president, there is a new international situation relating to Iran and in the region in general", "three years ago the presidents of Iran and the United States did not telephone each other and a few months ago they did. Three years ago the relations between Iran and the West were escalating while now the opposite tendency is noticed."
He views Armenia-Iran relations from point of west not from Armenia's interests. Otherwise Badalian or anybody from "lragir" would bring up the issue and criticise the government for not "doing enough starting from 1995".
Also, "lragir' is not just critisizing. It basically repeats word for word whatever azeri and turkish media are spreading about our government for their own propaganda. Things like "Armenian government does not exist", "Armenian government is a vassal of russia", "Armenians want to annex Karabakh to russia", "Armenia is never independent", "Armenian government is an usurper" etc, etc.
What was I doing with my post?

The question was ever present, I sent you back at the time of the construction of the Gas pipe between Kajaran and Tavriz. Back then the Russians did their most, to minimize the diameter of the tube, and back then, the same did criticize the Government.
Later, the same corrupt guys, sold in a magic transaction, the Armenia/Iran Gas Pipe, that WAS NOT PART OF HAYRUSGAZART, to the latter, and the same guys did criticise, just as today...

Why now?
Because it is now that Serjik is selling the last remnants of our statehood, and it is now, that the Iranian ambassador is proposing gas at 100 USD...

And why is azeri point of view, to begin with? Does a reality automatically stops being such, just because the azaris or turks state it, and use the sad reality in their propaganda?
Look at the other side of the medal. The Armenian media is full of arguments, about the corrupt character of Ilham Aliyev and his regime. Does that mean automatically, (from an azari point of view), that all that is marazm, slander, just because the enemy says so??
There are many many more mdeia out there, who critisize our government just like azeris do to their own. But imporant thing is to critisize when its due, not when it's safe and condoned by media's sponsors.

Was not Serjik the Voralez, who did every effort, to please Putin, and save his seat, just on Dec 2, Sept 3....? Or was it not reality??
Was that not the Tavajan Sejik, with his hilarious laugh, sitting and pleasing Mr Gul, in the center of Yerevan, to please the West and Russia in the same time? Was not him who changed the emblem of the Armenian football federation, taking off Mount Ararat, to please the Turks? (A symbol that did survive under communist regime, but Serjik dared, because he has no sense of National pride, and he is not the unique in his case. Most comsomol made minds, today at most decision making posts, are the product of the same extruder....., that's why they do survive so well). And what was the result of all that indignity??
Was not Serjik the one stating that Akna(aka Agdam) was not his fatherland (in his words, ours)? just to give credentials in Moskwa and the West, earning his seat as President, as one ready to any concessions and the least nationalist ?? (at least from his point of view..)
Was not Serjik, while sill minister, the stupid guy, believing in Armenicum?, Do you remember that thing?? For a couple of years, was not him, who made all the fuss about that marvelous scam?? All over the TV?? If anything this sole example is enough, how unwise, to say the least, he really is.... Do you remember all the money that he invested, for that ridiculous forgery, while honestly believing (and this is the real sad point, the fact that he beleived in it!!) in that extravgant, kazakho/russo/mafioso/copperfieldo scam??
Or is it the chess boards he likes to display every here and there, that gains him his credentials?

Do you genuinly think he does mind a fraction of a second, about National interests???

Have you seen me ever defending Serj Sargsian or any oligarkhs?
In order to defend "lragir" you are puting Serjik's character out. ---- Who does not know that? But what has it to do with what we were discussing?
What has Armenicum or any aother stupidity to do with blatant and low level propaganda outlet?
I do not like the comment that kid "serjik" put and insulted you, let me say that first. Like Artashes says, no necessary to be rud and disrespect each other.
I will continue on the thread that you have started just to justify "lragir".

[Eddo211]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

and the jackass award of the month goes to our friend Serjik, lol.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Vrej

Bro your so annoying. It was Vazgen that made armenicum into a big deal.

Vrej reproduced a report with Sarkisian making it into a big deal. So produce some news reports to back up your claim - or apologise.

At the time the Armenicum story broke I remember making a post comparing it to the silly quack medical "inventions" that eastern European countries during the Soviet Period would sporadically come up with, things like cures for baldness.

[Artashes]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

"bro" i think it's high time you learn to shut your mouth
if you can't debate someone without insulting them in every single sentence, you need to go away and come back in a few years when you're a little more mature

100%!!!
Absolutely no reason to be rude or insulting.
Make your point with respectful civility.
By your own admission , you do not know who you are talking to.
STOP with the insults.

[Mher]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Vrej

You just proved me that you are a fake and an idiot. EVERYBODY knows armenicum was Vazgen Sarkisians project. He even want on television to promote it in the middle of the 1990s. Vazgen was the most powerful man in armenia at that time. Serj Sargsyan was an official during that time so of course there will be some reports with his name in them. Bro, just PM me your identity I want to see how brave war veteran you are. the only thin you were doing during the war was playing with yourself.

"bro" i think it's high time you learn to shut your mouth
if you can't debate someone without insulting them in every single sentence, you need to go away and come back in a few years when you're a little more mature

[Serjik]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Vrej

You just proved me that you are a fake and an idiot. EVERYBODY knows armenicum was Vazgen Sarkisians project. He even want on television to promote it in the middle of the 1990s. Vazgen was the most powerful man in armenia at that time. Serj Sargsyan was an official during that time so of course there will be some reports with his name in them. Bro, just PM me your identity I want to see how brave war veteran you are. the only thin you were doing during the war was playing with yourself.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Have no time to waste for morons, but just for the too young to remember, the first google result....., if not go on, feel free to do your own research....


Armenicum Information Page

Armenia Has AIDS Cure, Claims Serge Sarkisian
YEREVAN (Noyan Tapan, RFE, BBC)
"Although the medicine has not yet been officially registered, it can be said already that the results of the test are most promising and there is hardly any comparisons to be drawn between this drug and others we know," he said.

Sarkisian told state television on Friday that a group of doctors working in Armenia have produced the cure following a long research. Sarkisian said the vaccine has already been successfully tested on 13 individuals, infected with AIDS, until now deemed incurable. In his words, all of them have been ridden of the deadly disease Sarkisian refused to give details saying only that the new medicine will be registered on Tuesday with a government agency dealing with drugs.
He said the research, kept secret, has been "sponsored" by himself and unspecified entrepreneurs.

Meanwhile, an informed source told RFE/RL that a secret research on AIDS has taken place in Armenia in the last two years and it was led by Levon Mkhitarian, the country's chief infection doctor. The source said the research's secrecy has been carefully guarded by national security officers.

The BBC reported, quoting Ekho Moskvy (Voice of Moscow) radio, that Sarkisian assured viewers that the world would soon be rocked by what Armenian scientists had discovered.

The minister was confident that the discovery would have a favorable effect on Armenia 's economy.

All of the 13 AIDS-stricken and HIV-infected people showed positive results two months after they started to use the medicine. In addition to the experimentally obtained data, such as the quantity of CD-4-lymphocytes reflecting the degree of human immunity and the virus concentration in blood, patients were observed to feel much better. All researches had been financed by private businesses with the immediate assistance of the personnel of the Republican Center for AIDS Prevention and Control. Interior Minister Serge Sarkisian actively helped the research program, Gabrielian said. Six months ago Sarkisian confirmed the presence of 13 AIDS-stricken and HIV-infected prisoners in penitentiaries.

Gabrielian believes that Armenia has all the appropriate conditions to manufacture the new medicine, the name of which includes the word "Armenicum." The full name of the drug will be announced after it is officially registered and a corresponding statement is made. It can be expected in the near future

[Serjik]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Vrej

Bro your so annoying. It was Vazgen that made armenicum into a big deal. The only tavajan is you not our Mr. President the one you call "Serjik". Unless you are talking about me LOL! Why dont you send me your real identity in a private message I going to confirm if you are a NKR war veteran or not. I dare you if you are a man. My uncle in Yerevan is involved with veterans and he knows lots of people. I will cut off my left nut if you are a real war veteran like you have some here fooled to believe.