Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

[Haykakan]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Gevz makes a lot of excellent points which diasporans have a hard time swallowing. I was in school when the war was on and my dad was busy helping the war effort in numerous ways. He organized the procurement, shipment, allocation of much needed medical equipment to Hayastan. He gathered money from wealthy diasporans and brought it to Kharabagh to buy guns, ammo, tanks...even named one of the tanks after me. He took fire while doing this and brought home shretnell as a souvineer. I helped him when I could and while I was helping him I couldn't help but wonder why nobody else out of this 50k Armenian community was doing anything similar? Yeh there was some help from the diaspora and I was there to witness it and I was also there to witness how few were actually doing anything. The diaspora does have great potential but it never approaches this potential. My hope is that this newer generation of diasporans which seems to be more engaged with our homeland will do more then the previous generation. While Gevz is pretty much spot on about the diaspora I will say that making blanket statements is always a mistake. Yeh most of the diaspora is like a dead appendage but that does not mean that all of it is useless, yeh jjewish groups are generally not our friends but that does not mean all jews are enemies, Yeh most turks are glad the genocide happened but there are some who lement...We need all the help we can get and alienating people by using unnecessary blanket statements hurts our own interests. I think Gevz serves a good purpose here by bringing the diasporans back down to reality regarding their own worth and contributions but racial and generally blanket statements are a disservice to everyone. Indeed do watch that video if you are a diasporan and comprehend that it is a diasporan and our national hero who is telling you himself that the diaspora was not doing anywhere near enough. Instead of getting all defensive we diasporans need to figure out how we can be more useful to Armenia.

[Eddo211]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

One thing might help is for the Armenian government to give a seat to Diaspora in the national assembly or parliament.

[lampron]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Dumbest post ever.

Just for the record during the liberation of Artsakh at the start we didn't/want/could build an army this came into fruition later on. again you are trying to look knowledgeable but failing miserably.

Just in case you are slow at understanding things the number calculated wasn't for building a farking army. no one gave a fk about building an army until later on. defending the country by getting into small 'jokats' this is what won us the war 'united' together with 1 aim/goal. WAS A LARGE PART OF OUR DIASPORA PART OF IT ???????????? NO . COULD A LARGE PART OF IT HAVE BEEN? YES. DID THE DIASPORA FAIL? YES.

DID MONTE AND HIS MEN ALONG WITH OTHER ARMENIANS FIGHT AZERI KILL AZERI AND END UP TAKING THE BOOTS OF THESE SCUMBAG AZERI AND WEARING THESE BOOTS TO KEEP FIGHTING??? YES. IF THE DIASPORA DIDN'T FAIL - WOULD THE MAN BE WEARING A DEAD SOLDIERS BOOTS OR CLOTHES??????????? NO.

you see. you don't know what to answer to these questions.

They did none of that but hey, the biggest and most organized diasporan political party never fails to mark the disastrous 'Bank Ottoman' incident in 1896 that was exploited to murder 6,000 Armenians, and each year reminds everyone of the 'Lisbon five' , the incident where they sent five poorly trained Armenian men to their deaths in order to show everyone they still counted and not ASALA

Needless to say they will never build a monument to the 'Karabakh 15,000' who sacrificed their lives defending their homeland, although when politically convenient they will immediately speak on their behalf!

You didn't need to go to any cinema or airports to collect diaspora Armenians around the world. Did anyone go and force Monte, Karo or the other 1000 Armenians? No one did no one went looking for them. They came themselves.

'force' may be the wrong word, but 'organize', yes

I'm demanding the Diaspora does more.
I'm demanding Diaspora stop day dreaming about some BS democracy.

Their belief in democracy consists of calling anyone who (using facts) explains that they have fallen far short of what is expected of them as a 'Turk'

[lampron]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

In an interview with the Russian Defense Ministry’s newspaper late last month, Col. Andrey Ruzinsky, commander of the 102nd Military Base at Gyumri in Armenia affirmed Russia’s preparedness and intention to “join the armed conflict” against Azerbaijan if it “decides to restore jurisdiction over Nagorno-Karabakh by force."


Ruzinsky added that his officers had recently toured “areas of combat engagement” and plan to increase joint military exercises with Armenian forces in the coming year.

sounds good!

[Gevz]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

In an interview with the Russian Defense Ministry’s newspaper late last month, Col. Andrey Ruzinsky, commander of the 102nd Military Base at Gyumri in Armenia affirmed Russia’s preparedness and intention to “join the armed conflict” against Azerbaijan if it “decides to restore jurisdiction over Nagorno-Karabakh by force."


Ruzinsky added that his officers had recently toured “areas of combat engagement” and plan to increase joint military exercises with Armenian forces in the coming year.

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Ha chem haskanum hayern 'londontsi' menak du es haskanum hayern. Get back on topic watch the video and listen to what our national hero is saying you might get back into reality.

So what did we have?

Under 1000 man fighting/giving up luxury life for a second armenian state from the diaspora while risking life.
We had another 6 million who couldn't come together and supply basic equipment clothing for 30000 man and women fighting.

Last but not least our fedayees used to liberate territory and when they liberated it they used to find azeri food that was left behind when the dogs ran away - since little food was available they used to eat that they did this while risked being killed.

PATHETIC TO SAY THE LEAST.

so what does "londontsi" mean.

[Gevz]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

You made another mistake proving you do not understand Armenian.

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Ha chem haskanum hayern 'londontsi' menak du es haskanum hayern. Get back on topic watch the video and listen to what our national hero is saying you might get back into reality.

So what did we have?

Under 1000 man fighting/giving up luxury life for a second armenian state from the diaspora while risking life.
We had another 6 million who couldn't come together and supply basic equipment clothing for 30000 man and women fighting.

Last but not least our fedayees used to liberate territory and when they liberated it they used to find azeri food that was left behind when the dogs ran away - since little food was available they used to eat that they did this while risked being killed.

PATHETIC TO SAY THE LEAST.

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I understand your handle i just simply ignore it. Why? because nothing Armenian about it.

You made another mistake proving you do not understand Armenian.

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[Gevz]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

And you agree with my assessment that you do not understand Armenian.
Simple clue, you misinterpreted my handle and you cannot correct your criticism of my handle.

For somebody who was born in Armenia and spends significant part of the year in Armenia its hell of a mistake to make.
Significantly you cannot correct it.

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I understand your handle i just simply ignore it. Why? because nothing Armenian about it. You are a proud british citizen or an asylum seeker seeking british citizenship but that is all for another discussion.

Moving along.

Did you hear what one of our National hero's is saying in that video? He was from the Diaspora speaking the truth and not lying to himself and making bs comments like how many of the 4 million was fit to fight yo!. This video was recorded the day Kelbajar was liberated from scum turk in terms of years left for the ceasefire? 1 year or so left and our national hero is saying this.

So basically most part of our diaspora couldn't do the basics 3-4 years into the war with a year or so left. PATHETIC.

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I want to give back lands for recognition and peace.
I want to give back lands because no one done a thing with it for 20 + years
I want to give back lands so we reduce our deaths on the contact line

Don't worry about all these factors when it's not you or your family member serving on the contact line.


ROA government wants the same thing.

And you agree with my assessment that you do not understand Armenian.
Simple clue, you misinterpreted my handle and you cannot correct your criticism of my handle.

For somebody who was born in Armenia and spends significant part of the year in Armenia its hell of a mistake to make.
Significantly you cannot correct it.

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