Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

[Shant03]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Iran is also worried about Armenia getting lost to the Turks......they won't fight the Turks but they can cut all energy exports which will halt the Turkish war machine.
Neither Russia or Iran want to see NATO bases in stolen Armenian lands.

Agreed, Russia/Iran and a lot of countries in Asia are happy to see Armenia stopping Turkey from continuing to grow. Personally, it would be great to see Russia create a military base in Artsakh to put a stamp on the region but don't really see that happening.

[Eddo211]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Iran is also worried about Armenia getting lost to the Turks......they won't fight the Turks but they can cut all energy exports which will halt the Turkish war machine.
Neither Russia or Iran want to see NATO bases in stolen Armenian lands.

[Gevz]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

So what did our ally do for us at the time of need?

1. It told turkey to not get involved otherwise it would turn turkey into a parking lot
2. It gave the green light to yerevan to continue to decapitate the azeris.

Most say... BUT IF A WAR HAPPENED IN ARTSAKH RUSSIA WOULDN'T CARE ABOUT AZERI TAKING OVER ARTSAKH - IF THIS WAS THE CASE WE WOULD NOT HAVE ARTSAKH IF IT DIDNT MATTER FOR THEM.

Russia needs Artsakh and if you are smart you would have worked it out why it needs Artsakh.


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Going forward with our ally in the next 5-10 years don't be suprised if our ally makes a new border with us.

Watch this happen.


This will happen when

1. Georgia goes more retarded about the west ( FSB is already working towards this by giving russian passports to armenians in javakh you know what that means? Full legitmate way of going into georgia to protect Russian citizens.

2. Azer dont behave

[Gevz]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Every Armenian should pray before they sleep that Russia never betrays us. Never goes against us. When i say these things i'm being realistic. Whatever the Kremlin decides will be our future.

Nothing to be ashamed of. The whole world is burning countries who have 20-30 times more population. Countries who have 50-100 time bigger economies have turned into parking lots have civil wars all thanks to the west.

We have 1 country on the PLANET.......who is a MIGHTY super power the big BEAR who is on our side..........our geo-location is a very important location for the protection of Russia...........when i say important you don't know how important it is unless you really look what role Armenia plays. No other country on this planet cares/or needs ARMENIA'S geo location but the one and only MIGHTY BEAR.

We are used by the West to cause pain for the Russians.


I decided to start posting again just for the simple fact that we have other readers that read this website / but don't sign up so it's good to spread the word of who is actually looking out for us. plus had people private messaging me. but i got no time for delusional armenians.

Finally read this link.

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-05-21/news/mn-337_1_karabakh-conflict

MOSCOW — The military commander in chief of the Commonwealth of Independent States warned Wednesday that if outside powers intervene in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, "we shall be on the brink of a new world war."

The comment by Marshal Yevgeny I. Shaposhnikov came in the wake of recent indications from Turkish leaders that they would consider sending arms or even troops to bolster Azerbaijan in its festering conflict with Armenia.




EU was not prepared to go ww3 for us.
Neither was Washington.

They stayed quiet and had Moscow not warned we would probably not have an Armenia today.

[Artashes]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I never called Gevz a Turk lol, and as far as I know Lampron is a Turk and nothing wrong with that. He is a moderate Turk, I like him, and the things I say when I quote him.....he knows what I mean. Graywofls Ergenekons Turkish Muslim extremists......not Lampron.



I would say Russia uses Armenia to her advantage and lucky for us we are needed. When we are no longer needed they will????what?

I had described a certain behaviour of creating inter Armenian hate as worse than a Turk.

I did not call anybody as Turk yet my post was also also removed.

You seem to agree that in these forums spreading of inter Armenian hate is not tolerated.

One has to ask why? Is it because its not nice or because its helping the Turkish agenda.

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Lo these many years, the frauds to our east have repetedly violated the LoC and repetedly provoked RA forces.
And lo these many years the group(s) responsible for monitoring have requested (?both?) sides to show restraint.
If you are looking for sense where there is none, .....

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

If you didn't notice, the post where Eddo was calling you or Gevz a "Turk" as an insult was deleted as well.

Now let's all get back to discussing whether Russia is an ally or foe, nowadays. Please.

I had described a certain behaviour of creating inter Armenian hate as worse than a Turk.

I did not call anybody as Turk yet my post was also also removed.

You seem to agree that in these forums spreading of inter Armenian hate is not tolerated.

One has to ask why? Is it because its not nice or because its helping the Turkish agenda.

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[Eddo211]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

If you didn't notice, the post where Eddo was calling you or Gevz a "Turk" as an insult was deleted as well.

I never called Gevz a Turk lol, and as far as I know Lampron is a Turk and nothing wrong with that. He is a moderate Turk, I like him, and the things I say when I quote him.....he knows what I mean. Graywofls Ergenekons Turkish Muslim extremists......not Lampron.

Now let's all get back to discussing whether Russia is an ally or foe, nowadays. Please.

I would say Russia uses Armenia to her advantage and lucky for us we are needed. When we are no longer needed they will????what?

[Federate]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Dear federate, no to racism agreed, but you should also intervene where people here are automatically labelled as 'Turks' whenever they present facts that don't correspond to the delusional fantasies of some on this board. I don't need to tell you that this tactic is designed to stop free debate

If you didn't notice, the post where Eddo was calling you or Gevz a "Turk" as an insult was deleted as well.

Now let's all get back to discussing whether Russia is an ally or foe, nowadays. Please.

[Shant03]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

You're right Gevz, let's give land to these guys for peace and what was the other thing? Recognition? What are they recognizing exactly?

[Shant03]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I had to quote this before i go but if an award was given to the dumbest post ever this would be it.

Here is how stupid this sounds.

'Armenia needs to negotiate diplomacy with turkey and open the border. Once this is achieved, Azerbaijan will lose a huge backing and will lose its leverage on us' hang on.......do you really think turkey will open the border and go against it's little brother? FOR ARMENIA??????????????? are you really that lost?

Great job taking what I said out of context. Let me put it in simple terms so you can comprehend. Opening the boarder (which I'm not a big fan of) may be necessary while we are at war because doing so weakens Azerbaijanis leverage they have on us. Instead of being landlocked, you only have one border closed which is the one you are at war with. Doing this will also boost the economy.

You're right, it is so stupid to open a border vs your idea of giving away our lands.