Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

[Eddo211]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Very strong statement by the FM
Beyond the fact that no victor in history has willingly given up land, for Armenia it's not a matter of choice. It was only 22 years ago when thousands of innocent civilians in Stepanakert were dying because of the indiscriminate shelling of the city by Azeris from Khojaly and Shushi. These politicians might not have heard of that, but everyone in Artsakh has. Moreover, without the Republic of Artsakh, southern Armenia would be less than 50km wide while facing 200km of Azeri border on BOTH sides. A million man army would not be able to defend that land. To expect Armenia to do so would be ridiculous. If Azerbaijan ever cut through it and cut of Armenia from Iran it would be the end of us as a nation.

This is why Monte said "If we lose Artsakh we turn the final page of our people's history."

Monte knew very well......Artsakh is world's Armenians last stand.
but also it is a platform now to build on and from which to expand/liberate our lands,....I bet Monte would agree with me.

[Hakob]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Mher, you are giving reasons of why territories would not be returned that don't mean anything for US. If they need a war in there, they will start it with any reasons. Our logic and convictions have no effect without muscle. The only way to turn warmongers back is to make sure they know that their plans won't work. If you are ready to fight for victory, then all you reason will be accepted by everybody else. The only way to stop west and Turks is to make them believe that in case of war there would not be Azerbaijan left. Or what is left, will be under Russian controll .

[Mher]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

THIS!!!

Also, no concessions, or any right of return. If Azeri continues ceasefire violation set by CSTO and its aggression increases then NKR should reserve the right to expand its boundaries beyond the shelling/rocket ranges of Azerbaijan for the protection of NKR citizens.

Very strong statement by the FM
Beyond the fact that no victor in history has willingly given up land, for Armenia it's not a matter of choice. It was only 22 years ago when thousands of innocent civilians in Stepanakert were dying because of the indiscriminate shelling of the city by Azeris from Khojaly and Shushi. These politicians might not have heard of that, but everyone in Artsakh has. Moreover, without the Republic of Artsakh, southern Armenia would be less than 50km wide while facing 200km of Azeri border on BOTH sides. A million man army would not be able to defend that land. To expect Armenia to do so would be ridiculous. If Azerbaijan ever cut through it and cut of Armenia from Iran it would be the end of us as a nation.

This is why Monte said "If we lose Artsakh we turn the final page of our people's history."

[Eddo211]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

NKR Foreign Ministry: NKR independence and security are absolute values




May 08, 2014 | 12:08
STEPANAKERT. – The Nagorno-Karabakh Foreign Ministry issued a statement in connection with the latest speech of OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chair James Warlick.

"We consider it necessary to note that the position of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic on the prospects of settlement of the Azerbaijani-Karabakh conflict remains unchanged.

Any return to the past is out of question. The fate of Nagorno Karabakh has been determined by its people through a free and legitimate expression of will in the 1991 referendum on independence. NKR independence and security are absolute values that are not subject to any bargaining.

We believe that the joint efforts of the OSCE Minsk Group should focus on the development of such settlement mechanisms that stem from current realities and provide conditions for the peaceful coexistence of two independent states - the Nagorno Karabakh Republic and Azerbaijan – emerged as a result of the collapse of the USSR and the war unleashed by Azerbaijan".


News from Armenia - NEWS.am

THIS!!!

Also, no concessions, or any right of return. If Azeri continues ceasefire violation set by CSTO and its aggression increases then NKR should reserve the right to expand its boundaries beyond the shelling/rocket ranges of Azerbaijan for the protection of NKR citizens.

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

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....... We know what it means...... Sahakashvilly does not have to guess too.

Sahakashvilly ?? Who is he. Never heard of him.


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[Hakob]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

unbelievable

John Heffern @AmbHeffern

Occupied territories surrounding NK should be returned to Azerbaijani control. #NKPeace @AmbJamesWarlick @usembarmenia @USEmbassyBaku


https://twitter.com/AmbHeffern/statu...43073127727106

I was just watching news video of Serj Sargsian in meeting with leaders of Russia, Belarus and kazakhistan and something cought my attention. In his speech Serj was expresing his wiew that a CSTO policy resolution is needed about possibilities of military and hardware movements tru a third country in case of necessity. We know what it means...
Sahakashvilly does not have to guess too.

[Mher]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

unbelievable

John Heffern @AmbHeffern

Occupied territories surrounding NK should be returned to Azerbaijani control. #NKPeace @AmbJamesWarlick @usembarmenia @USEmbassyBaku

https://twitter.com/AmbHeffern/status/464043073127727106

[Hakob]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Very valid argument there. i agree he should yanky doodle his way back home.

What about the government that he represents, that is up to no good, that has just advertised a policy that could restart the war? That is supposed to work for peace instead? Can US be a mediator? Russia too for change? Can both, that are facing in their biggest confrontation since Cold War be mediators? Are we going to hand over our security to others again and expect good? Haven't we learned yet? It is abvious we have to handle Artsakh conflict our selfs. And since our adversary is trumpeting war, we have no choice. Russia is just means to arm ourselfs. But nobody will give us security and justice but us. If we cannot guarantee our security, then we should not expect any good from any mediation.

[Haykakan]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Very valid argument there. i agree he should yanky doodle his way back home.

Understood, but he still compromises his job and title, MEDIATOR.

I would say his position is untenable and he should resign.

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[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

He was not talking on behalf of the Minsk group-he was stating U.S. policy based on U.S. interests (U.S. interest is hard to define anymore because it has been taken over by special interest).

Understood, but he still compromises his job and title, MEDIATOR.

I would say his position is untenable and he should resign.

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