Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Ok, I mistakenly made the assumption that when you approached women you didn't just think about having non-flirtations conversations with them, I'll just assume that you never had any thoughts of that nature when you approached them. My mistake, should have known better.

Call my marriage what you want. Only God can decide how long it will last, and I'll just continue his bidding.

You obviously know more about everything than anyone here, or you so assert.

If you have no problem saying all that to my face, then come and do so, before that please refrain from insults. And I btw, I only take insult when you call me a racist, sexist is fine.

You obviously feel comfortable with displaying your sexist beliefs and that speaks volumes about the person you are. Everyone has the right to think anyways they want but the line is drawn when the thoughts turn to action and effect other people.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Everything is about war and defense for you...
Again, so how is it that corporations and people who don't serve can own land then? By your logic this is impossible, yet they do... So, your premises are wrong.

So, women who are the providers are "acting like men"? And men who don't get drafted off to war are not men? Have I got that right?
And you wonder why people can't understand what you're saying?

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Actually, during WWII while the men went to battle, the women had to take over the auto plants back home in Detroit. This is what actually brought many women into the work force.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Previously you said


and now you're saying


So there.



I stated that there was social inequality between men and women in Aztec, Mayan and Olmec societies (in saying that men considered women their subordinates). You presented an article that more or less stated "There was social inequality between men and women, in light of some equality in the eyes of the law". It affirmed my position, so I'm not sure why you keep arguing when we both agree on the statement I posted



I'm not sure which documents you are talking about, but please do point me to sources that you consider more genuine, as I like Meso-American history in general.

Because you like sexist laws, we never had them, just because society viewed one thing doesn't mean the law made by learned men was the same because some ignorant fool thought one way.

WE never called ourselves Aztec as an Empire, as tribal refugees WE called ourselves Aztecs, as an empire we called ourselves MEXICA, hence why it's called Mexico. I explained it to you now several times and even taught you some of my language, I hope you get it now.

Codices are the early documents the Spaniards wrote when observing Mexica society, my point with all this is there was no Gender Devision of Labour, hence what you are suggesting is alien to our civilization, to yours and to society in general, much of the labour you praise was done by women to before the birth of the Industrial Revolution, Capital and Lex Germanicus

[Siggie]

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Actually, during WWII while the men went to battle, the women had to take over the auto plants back home in Detroit. This is what actually brought many women into the work force.

And this is relevant/important how? Oh DreDre... as I end up telling you again and again tie it in please.

Are you saying that if this didn't happen, women still wouldn't be in the workforce? That in a way they did help with the war? Something entirely different?

Because you like sexist laws, we never had them, just because society viewed one thing doesn't mean the law made by learned men was the same because some ignorant fool thought one way.

WE never called ourselves Aztec as an Empire, as tribal refugees WE called ourselves Aztecs, as an empire we called ourselves MEXICA, hence why it's called Mexico. I explained it to you now several times and even taught you some of my language, I hope you get it now.

Codices are the early documents the Spaniards wrote when observing Mexica society, my point with all this is there was no Gender Devision of Labour, hence what you are suggesting is alien to our civilization, to yours and to society in general, much of the labour you praise was done by women to before the birth of the Industrial Revolution, Capital and Lex Germanicus

Ay Bedros... Did he drive you to battling minor details that aren't important to the main topic of the thread too?
*tosses you an asprin and a Guinness*

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

And this is relevant/important how? Oh DreDre... as I end up telling you again and again tie it in please.

Are you saying that if this didn't happen, women still wouldn't be in the workforce? That in a way they did help with the war? Something entirely different?

You were telling Levon that everything he says is about war and it is. You live in a country that is constantly in a state of war (for being a superpower) but you don't see or feel an ounce of it. You aren't taxed for it because China is essentially funding the entire US military. You also may not be exposed to its damaging effect on the entire economy because again, you aren't supporting a family.

Women weren't in the workforce because there weren't jobs for them. Men made enough salary to provide for the household so the role of women at the time was to increase the population. When the U.S. entered World War II, women worked in the plants to produce jeeps/military vehicles for the war effort. This is what brought many women into the work force. Obviously, some men died so the women became providers for the family.

As far as corporations who don't serve owning land... they are owned by wealthy people who don't have to answer to anyone and will always have others fighting their wars for them whether it be men, women or children... they couldn't care less.

[levon]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

You obviously feel comfortable with displaying your sexist beliefs and that speaks volumes about the person you are. Everyone has the right to think anyways they want but the line is drawn when the thoughts turn to action and effect other people.

I'm happy, you didn't call me racist this time. Finally you understand.

[levon]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Because you like sexist laws, we never had them,

I'm sorry, I never said that explicitly or implicitly. My arguments have been from a social point of view. Where you got that statement is a mystery to me, perhaps a product of your imagination?

WE never called ourselves Aztec as an Empire, as tribal refugees WE called ourselves Aztecs, as an empire we called ourselves MEXICA, hence why it's called Mexico. I explained it to you now several times and even taught you some of my language, I hope you get it now.

You called yourself something, academics call you something else, and you're making an argument with my based entirely on that distinction. whatever...

Codices are the early documents the Spaniards wrote when observing Mexica society, my point with all this is there was no Gender Devision of Labour, hence what you are suggesting is alien to our civilization, to yours and to society in general, much of the labour you praise was done by women to before the birth of the Industrial Revolution, Capital and Lex Germanicus

And which labor might that be? You mean being a provider and dying at war are concepts alien to your civilization, to mine and to society in general? Really?

[levon]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Levon, indzi ge mertsenesgor I'd help out on your argument but doesn't look like you need any help. I'll just follow along and pick up the pieces left behind.

Merci aper jan, you're doing a good job of it.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

And this is relevant/important how? Oh DreDre... as I end up telling you again and again tie it in please.

Are you saying that if this didn't happen, women still wouldn't be in the workforce? That in a way they did help with the war? Something entirely different?



Ay Bedros... Did he drive you to battling minor details that aren't important to the main topic of the thread too?
*tosses you an asprin and a Guinness*

Hehehe, yeah he did, but the asprin never works, dunno if Im allergic or not, I'll tell the bar to trade it for a shot and a brew and keep em coming, works when debating minor details when people don't listen to the first post

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

I'm sorry, I never said that explicitly or implicitly. My arguments have been from a social point of view. Where you got that statement is a mystery to me, perhaps a product of your imagination?



You called yourself something, academics call you something else, and you're making an argument with my based entirely on that distinction. whatever...



And which labor might that be? You mean being a provider and dying at war are concepts alien to your civilization, to mine and to society in general? Really?

I explained myself how many times, and most historians don't call us that, ignorant people watching Indiana damn Jones do, I suggest consultign a Codex or not to waste my time.

Labour = work done in production to benefit society or trade.

My point is women were often in all societies allowed to work and even participate in the military this changed with Capitalism, have you heard of the putter out system or not?

You wanted to point out that societies laws that are sexist are neccessary for empires to exist and evolve, I proved to you laws can exist contradictory to that and the empire will succeed, hence I call bullxxxx.

Ultimately I feel like facepalming because clearly you don't read my posts properly.