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**KanadaHye** · 02-24-2010, 01:36 PM

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

In the Americas, that's not a problem as you don't need a job. You just incurr more and more debt and wait for someone else to pay it off for you.

**levon** · 02-24-2010, 06:04 PM

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Awesome posters. They are spotlight examples of typical feminist inspired propaganda posters that are meant to imply general social problems, yet use cherry-picked isolated examples and assert widespread social problem without providing any evidence that what they claim is a widespread problem.
Moreover, the clever wording and placement of statements such as "Some men still control their spouses" (that may be true in isolation, but not in general) are meant to incite the reader to form an opinion that is completely misdirected and wrong.

Let's start with the frirst poster, shall we?

-An average looking woman, frustrated. (Chosen to symbolize that her problems are those of average women, YET no such evidence is provided - FEMINIST PROPAGANDA TACTIC

-She married at 17 and her husband does not allow her to work. (Meant to imply that average Armenian women marry at 17 and are controlled by their husbands - YET no evidence is provided that this is the case in the Armenian society at large - FEMINIST PROPAGANDA TACTIC

The next statement pretty much proves that her isolated case is meant to create a generalization. I will break it down now.

: In Armenia, this is still an issue. - Incorrect assertion - - How does one woman's story reflect the condition of an entire country? - Typical Feminist Propaganda tactic

: Some men still control the destiny of their spouses - This statement is placed right after "In Armenian, this is still an issue" to encourage the reader to make the assumption that this is indeed a large-scale problem in Armenia; HOWEVER, the following are also true statements

-> Some Armenian women cheat on their husbands (as a one woman example, a woman in my neighborhood slept with most youngsters around when her husband was in Russia working to support her)
-> Some Armenian women murder their children
-> Some Armenian women commit violent crimes
-> Some Armenian women abuse their children (as a one woman example, my childhood friend used to get daily beatings from his mom and aunt - usually with a heeled show).

But, just because these statements are true, can anyone use them to claim that there are widespread problems in Armenia related to women committing violent crimes, and abusing their children?
NO, but why does the creator of the poster feel that generalizing isolated cases is ok? - Typical Feminist Propaganda tactic

: they don't want to see their wives communicate with other men - Nothing, even on the poster, to support this. Apparently the creator of the poster feels that it's ok to write assumptions based on no evidence, as long as something related to it has been stated already. - Typical Feminist Propaganda tactic This is what feminists are really good at. They somehow try to assert one statement, and with their assumed veracity of the said statement imply the veracity of other statements that are somewhat similar.

: Today, Heghine's biggest wish is to see her 16 year old daughter go to University and find a job - This may indeed be the woman's wish; however, it is placed right after the preceding statements to imply that most women in Armenia currently do not have the ability to go to University nor find a job. - This implication is completely incorrect, butWhat a clever way of guiding the reader towards a conclusion. - That's right - Typical Feminist Propaganda tactic

: Things are slowly changing - Meant to imply that there is a LOT of work left to do. Great tactic to guide the reader to feel sympathetic for the woman, and as a result to convince the reader that there is a widespread problem and something needs to be done. - Again, a Typical Femenist Propaganda tactic

- Please do note that women in Armenia do go to University in around the same numbers as men, and most men in Armenia have no problem with their wives working.

Onto the second poster
This one follows the same pattern as any propaganda poster, and attempts to encourage incorrect generalizations based on facts obtained from one woman.

Before reading further, please note, it portrays an unattractive woman, the importance of which I will explain a little later.

: Lianna is 36, and a mother of 2. - This is meant to imply a connection with the woman in the previous poster, as she too was a mother of two and of the same age group. - I'm guessing these posters are part of a campaign and are meant to be viewed at the same time. In essence, it is meant to establish a connection between hardships of two women and in turn encourage the generalization that this is common for all women
- Need I say more? Typical Feminist propaganda tactic

: She had graduated from Yerevan State Pedagogical University before she had kids - Meant to encourage the connection that not just under-educated married women are treated badly. This is in order to encourage the reader to generalize that all women are discriminated against (of course, no evidence of such is given, the generalization is meant for the reader.
-Typical Feminist propaganda tactic - establish sympathy, then encourage a generalization.

: Today, in order to have a job...., Liana needs to pay a $1000 bribe to the school principal so he gives her a job.

This one is very subtle, so I will point out these subtleties.
-> The $1000 bribe - Meant to imply that the only way a woman can get a job is by making a bribe. Firstly, if there is a bribe to be payed it would be both for men and women and in the same amount. This is a larger problem of corruption; however, the author of the poster tries to make this a woman only problem - This is very very Typical Feminist propaganda tactic - Choose a problem that affects both sexes, but only concentrate on the women.

-> Notice how the author has cleverly said "to the school principal so he (my emphasis) gives her a job" - This is meant to establish that men hold all the power and women have to give bribes in order to get a job.

-> Now, on to the importance of portraying an unattractive woman. It indirectly implies that since an ugly, overweight woman has to give a $1000 bribe, maybe a pretty girl will get a job by giving other kinds of favors. - Encourage the reader to assume that women are severely discriminated against because of their looks - AGAIN, another typical feminist propaganda tactic

: After the age of 25, an Armenian woman's chances of finding a job decreases dramatically - I honestly, have no idea how this conclusion can be reached from the example of one 36 year old woman.
- Establish sympathy, then suggest a completely incorrect generalization -Very typical feminist propaganda tactic

: Yes, this is still a problem in this country - Again, how does one woman's hardship translate into a problem for the whole country? It DOESN'T, this is merely another feminist propaganda tactic, that establishes sympathy, suggests a generalization, then establishes a conclusion. This is NOT Logical, yet works great on the general population.

Now, onto poster #3
This is the finishing poster of the campaign as it is meant to establish that a middle-aged Armenian woman, who had a good career, when she was younger, is doomed to be divorced and make a measly monthly salary.

- Notice that the woman in the poster also has 2 children - establish a connection between the women in the previous two posters - very important feminist propaganda tactic as it encourages a very large generalization.

- She is no longer attractive, but it's evident that she was rather attractive when she was younger - This encourages generalization that only attractive young women in Armenia can have successful careers, and only while they are young (connection with a message in poster #2) - (NOT the case in Armenia)

- She is divorced - meant to imply that Armenian men are only interested in being with younger women, and divorce their wives when they get older (Not the case in Armenia

- She no longer works as an engineer, but as a full-time babysitter. - This, along with the above is meant to imply that Armenians no longer see use in middle aged, unattractive women, no matter what their education and experience. A direct implication that men only see women useful in their youth, and only when they are attractive. This is a feminist lie that feminists like to repeat over and over again, yet never seem to find any conclusive evidence to support it. In essence, they are just spreading propaganda, hoping that nobody will question the veracity of the statements and conclusions they push forward. This, is the holy grail of feminist propaganda tactics

- Also note, that by painting a picture of an under-salaried, divorced woman the poster

Aims to create sympathy in order to encourage a generalization and guide the reader towards an incorrect conclusion
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Now that I've analyzed these posters, I have a few comments which some of you sensitive souls should refrain from reading.

The people who are creating such posters and are actively distributing them, DO NOT have Armenia's BEST INTERESTS at HEART. They are spreading false generalizations, and propagating incorrect assumptions and conclusions. They are doing this to create a gender divide in our beloved homeland, so that we, as a people, as a nation lose our numbers, lose our strength and be ripe for complete and total destruction and assimilation.

Let all such people take their vile crap and stick it up their gaping behinds, where it belongs. **** all of them to hell.

Siggie, I sincerely hope that you are neither involved in the creation nor the active distribution of these kinds of propaganda materials.

**Armanen** · 02-24-2010, 09:33 PM

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Great post Levon. I too am of the opinion that there is more at work than we are led to believe in these and other so called 'westernization' or liberlization drives in Armenia and other parts of the world.

**levon** · 02-24-2010, 10:02 PM

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.