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Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

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  • #21
    Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

    I think there are more important things to worry about rather than some superficial concept as equality when there are so many things pointing otherwise. There is no way men and women can be considered equal when physically, mentally and socially they are completely different. The only kind of equality one can give is legal equality and even that's shady as men and women have different needs and motivations.

    As far as legal equality there are no problems in Armenia, let's not go down the path of western nations and completely f** up the traditional roles in such a way that an average marriage lasts less than 7 years and many women proudly proclaim themselves as mothers of bastard kids (or single moms).

    Lets not forget, the reason women enjoy respect in Armenian society is only because they eventually become wife's and mothers (and good ones at that). There is no respect for a wh*re, and a female wh*ring around is not a woman, just a dumb female and thus does not deserve any respect.

    And for the most part, women in America (or the crazy feminazis) don't want equality, they want privilege. They want all the perks of a traditional values and the advantages of liberal values. Great idea. Let's f*ck up our society so badly that there are very few men and very few women, and the rest just completely confused animals who cant seem to find what they want out of life.

    Some things sound good on the surface, but end up horrible in practice. There is a reason traditional societies everywhere have more or less the same values when it comes to women and men.

    Also, lets not forget, there have been many philosophers throughout history who have specifically addressed the dangers of putting too much emphasis on the female population, and in general the dangers of giving too much power to women.

    Its a great idea to keep the female population as educated as the male population, as women usually spend more time with children than men; however, positions such as judge, prosecutor, lawmaker, and most upper level politicians should be reserved only for the best of men.

    Lets keep our culture away from broken western liberal values that eventually lead society into identity chaos. That's the last thing Armenia needs at the moment. Instead, lets focus our energy on things that would improve the conditions of all, instead of exclusively the female part of the population.

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    • #22
      Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

      I never said that we should exclusively improve the conditions of females. I do not think that if Armenian females become more active in our society, politics and economy they will end up like wh*ores. It is a disgrace to talk like that, we can keep our culture and even improve our patriotic feeling by having women participating for example in our politics.

      Why the West has become as it is, is not only due to their misperception of feminism, but of the lack of civilized culture. It is largely due to what they learn their children (on TV and in schools) and their anti-Christ attitude. The situation in Armenia is totally different.

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      • #23
        Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

        As I said, what you propose may sound good on the surface but in practice it will lead to what happened in the west. Don't forget that merely 60 years ago the pop-attitude towards family values and religion was completely different.

        In order to allow women to more actively participate in politics ans such social values towards women must change towards the liberal end, which will ultimately lead to liberal values in general (e.g. wh*rish women). Just look at the progression of feminism in America and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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        • #24
          Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

          Originally posted by levon View Post
          As I said, what you propose may sound good on the surface but in practice it will lead to what happened in the west. Don't forget that merely 60 years ago the pop-attitude towards family values and religion was completely different.

          In order to allow women to more actively participate in politics ans such social values towards women must change towards the liberal end, which will ultimately lead to liberal values in general (e.g. wh*rish women). Just look at the progression of feminism in America and you'll see what I'm talking about.
          apres levon. this is the point I've been trying to make as well.
          Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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          "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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          • #25
            Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

            I disagree, in America (and Europe) the government deliberately tries to influence the minds of their people, by their teachings at school and brainwashing programmes on TV (anti-Christ).

            Take a look at IsraŽl, who is quite liberal towards women, they actively participte in the economy, military and politics but they have not all become who*res.

            Our Armenian culture is different, our situation is different and I totally disagree our women will become xxxxxs if they participate, on the contrary Armenian women will even be more involved in our politics and in keeping our Armenian heritage (especially the Diaspora-Armenian women whom we MUST reach).

            If you do not want our girls to be who*res, we have to resist the pop-sex-anti-Christ-culture of Europe, not by locking up women, but by what we teach our children at school, by what they see on TV and our belief in God.


            The Armenian church will have to play an important task, by teaching our children the values we are proud of. In my opinion we neglect the importance of our faith and children do not learn enough about our religion, we can start expanding the number of hours of religious lessons at schools.

            Furthermore we have to create an all-Armenian ideology, a seperate course which has to be taught to our children from the day they go to kindergarden till highschool.

            We need our women, not only to cook and stay at home, but for our national struggle. We need to get rid of our muslim-inheritated heritage.

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            • #26
              Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

              Monte discouraged discrimination against women, chiefly setting an example for men to follow in the conduct of their daily affairs. He washed dishes, appealed to women to fight on the front lines and considered female staff in the radio room and the kitchen at headquarters to be fighters on an equal footing with uniformed soldiers on the battlefield.

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              • #27
                Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

                History prooves people like levon and mos wrong. Catharine the great happened to be one of the best rulers in history. During the kharabagh war there were women who fought and died along with the men for our country. Even in ancient times armenian women made their marks like hripsime and some of our taguhis. You can burry yourselves in traditional values alll you like but you miss the point that women even in ancient times were more then childbearing machines. Maybe your mom was content with sitting around cleaning the buggers in your nose all day, that doesnt mean all women are like that.
                Hayastan or Bust.

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                • #28
                  Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

                  Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                  History prooves people like levon and mos wrong. Catharine the great happened to be one of the best rulers in history. During the kharabagh war there were women who fought and died along with the men for our country. Even in ancient times armenian women made their marks like hripsime and some of our taguhis. You can burry yourselves in traditional values alll you like but you miss the point that women even in ancient times were more then childbearing machines. Maybe your mom was content with sitting around cleaning the buggers in your nose all day, that doesnt mean all women are like that.
                  History proves people like you are wrong too since most moms were content with sitting around cleaning the buggers out of your nose.

                  If a woman plans her life, she CAN have it all. Key words "IF". The problems start when they try to have kids, go to school and work all at the same time. They do a half-assed job of each one and usually end up failing miserably. It's not their fault... they make it look so easy on TV.... because the house is perfectly cleaned by the stage crew.
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #29
                    Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    History proves people like you are wrong too since most moms were content with sitting around cleaning the buggers out of your nose.

                    If a woman plans her life, she CAN have it all. Key words "IF". The problems start when they try to have kids, go to school and work all at the same time. They do a half-assed job of each one and usually end up failing miserably. It's not their fault... they make it look so easy on TV.... because the house is perfectly cleaned by the stage crew.
                    How do you know most moms were content doing this? How do you know if they didnt wish to do something else but were forced not to? Some of your comments are quite childish and i know you are not a child anymore. Think before you respond hell atleast make it funny like had been doing.
                    Hayastan or Bust.

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                    • #30
                      Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

                      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                      How do you know most moms were content doing this? How do you know if they didnt wish to do something else but were forced not to? Some of your comments are quite childish and i know you are not a child anymore. Think before you respond hell atleast make it funny like had been doing.
                      Yes, Haykakan... your mom regrets ever bringing you into this world... everyday she wakes up saying "damn I wish I had never had to clean buggers out of his nose". They weren't forced to do anything... how do you know they aren't being forced or "guided" to resent having children now? You seem to look at some things from popular points of view. What's popular today wasn't popular yesterday.
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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