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  • #41
    Re: Iran will pay the price and will loose the war against the West - EU,US, NATO

    Originally posted by JohnCanadian View Post
    This Armenian Iranian friendship must cease immediately. Iran should not be allowed to participate in my Countries Winter Olympic Games for 2010.

    Iran will and must be stopped through the use of more rounds of EU,US, UN Sanctions, the Sanctions will have to be stricter and to be able to deliver a hard blow to Irans infrastructure and already very weak economy.

    The other result which is the last resort is that NATO including the US EU (if they choose to take advantage of their hard core power status) must launch military air strikes to cripple Iran in every way possible. Iran will not win this war against the West - EU,US, NATO. Iran will be punished and they will learn the hard way if Iran does not cease immediately.

    BBC and Voice of America have condemned Iran's illegal jamming of BBC and VOA and some other Western TV Stations Satellite's.

    Mr Ahmadinjad will soon pay the price of a country that will be utterly destroyed.

    Armenia must distance itself from Iran. Armenia is not benefiting from befriending Iran and its grave danger to world peace.

    Armenia must seriously consider integrating with itself further into the West e.g. EU, NATO structures.

    Armenia will continue living in extreme poverty and Armenians will continue to leave Armenia if their are no opportunities delivered to the Armenian people. Armenia doing business with Iran will certainly not help Armenia develop its emerging Democracy and establishing the very basic foundations in Armenia's case a market economy that meets European Standards.

    Armenia has nothing to gain in doing business and firming closer ties with one of the world's leading state sponsors of terror and that is Iran.
    How about Canada start by doing the following:

    1) stop the channeling of drugs into Iranian society which is degrading the culture in the region.

    2) stop channeling money to Israel which promotes racism and instability in the middle east

    3) show the true colours of what "democracy" and the EU has done to Greece's economy which is just ONE example

    4) stop dealing with any countries that deny the death and destruction of over a million ethnic Armenians until they RECOGNIZE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

    5) stop flooding the media with innaccurate reporting by the CBC which no longer acts in the interest of everyday Canadians.

    I can go on and on....
    Last edited by KanadaHye; 02-24-2010, 10:37 AM.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #42
      Re: IRAN declared itself a nuclear nation

      Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
      In the last 200 years the Persians haven't attacked any one they were the ones who were being attacked. And those wars were so long ago that they don't matter for today.

      And no one can be more irrational than Kim Il of North Korea and he's got an A-bomb do you see him using it? No, because he knows the moment he uses it, it will be the moment that his country will be attacked and bombed back o the stone age by every nation on this planet.

      Only ones has a A-bomb been used in the last 60 years, if the Russians and Americans didn't use it on each other Iran isn't going to use it either.
      The Russians helped the North part of Korea while the Americans helped the South part. It was in agreement that they separate the country... just a game of chess being played by world powers. The North still has Communist ideology while the South is under Capitalist rule. Wars are started by bigger powers enforcing their policies on smaller countries. Iran isn't in any position to take over the world, they just want to defend themselves which every nation has a right to do or else they'll end up like Iraq or Afghanistan. Even Turkey was involved in sending brigades into South Korea to help out American forces.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Brigade
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • #43
        Re: IRAN declared itself a nuclear nation

        I think its quite clear, if Iran is believed by Israel as close to having a nuke it will attack. So long as Iran does not develop a nuke everything will be fine. The world has suffered NK getting a nuke, but not so sure Israel will let the same happen in Iran.

        As for Iran itself, would I prefer Iran to be like Lebanon (a secular democracy), but as is the issue with poor countries democracy doesn't solve everything; look at Thailand where the poor and rich support different parties.

        Finally with North Korea, it attacked (on urging of the Russians) and tried to conquer the South. The US responded and defeated the invasion, and attempted to take over North Korea; which went fine until MacArthur went mad and entered China wanting to nuke and take it over. Ironically South and North Korea would be one country if MacArthur had stayed away from China. As for the government, it was a fascist dictatorship of a sort; the South Koreans only got democracy by fighting for it themselves.

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        • #44
          Re: IRAN declared itself a nuclear nation

          Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post
          I think its quite clear, if Iran is believed by Israel as close to having a nuke it will attack. So long as Iran does not develop a nuke everything will be fine. The world has suffered NK getting a nuke, but not so sure Israel will let the same happen in Iran.

          As for Iran itself, would I prefer Iran to be like Lebanon (a secular democracy), but as is the issue with poor countries democracy doesn't solve everything; look at Thailand where the poor and rich support different parties.

          Finally with North Korea, it attacked (on urging of the Russians) and tried to conquer the South. The US responded and defeated the invasion, and attempted to take over North Korea; which went fine until MacArthur went mad and entered China wanting to nuke and take it over. Ironically South and North Korea would be one country if MacArthur had stayed away from China. As for the government, it was a fascist dictatorship of a sort; the South Koreans only got democracy by fighting for it themselves.
          Israel can't attack Iran without US military support. The US military has partially awakened to the fact that they were duped into the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq so I think Israel is alone in that one. If Israel was to act alone, it would surely begin WW3 and seeing that the American military has already bitten off more than it can chew, they would have to instigate a draft in order to maintain their military positions throughout the world.

          Korea was ruled by Japan until Japan lost its power in WWII. As Japan was defeated, Russia and the US divided Korea. The North wanted to take the South away from America's grip which is why there are still American soldiers stationed in the south. Not just a small presence but about 40 installations and 2 air bases. North Korea has every right to defend its sovereignty and oust foreign occupation.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #45
            Re: IRAN declared itself a nuclear nation

            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
            Israel can't attack Iran without US military support. The US military has partially awakened to the fact that they were duped into the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq so I think Israel is alone in that one. If Israel was to act alone, it would surely begin WW3 and seeing that the American military has already bitten off more than it can chew, they would have to instigate a draft in order to maintain their military positions throughout the world.

            Korea was ruled by Japan until Japan lost its power in WWII. As Japan was defeated, Russia and the US divided Korea. The North wanted to take the South away from America's grip which is why there are still American soldiers stationed in the south. Not just a small presence but about 40 installations and 2 air bases. North Korea has every right to defend its sovereignty and oust foreign occupation.

            Of all the countries that are portrayed as 'evil' in the west, n. korea fits the bill the most. What the little mad man has done to his own people imitates the worst that stalin ever did and then some.
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



            http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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            • #46
              Re: IRAN declared itself a nuclear nation

              Originally posted by Armanen View Post
              Of all the countries that are portrayed as 'evil' in the west, n. korea fits the bill the most. What the little mad man has done to his own people imitates the worst that stalin ever did and then some.
              Kim Jong Il just wants to be a director in Hollywood, if they just gave him his dream he would stop playing around and reunite the peninsula; but that's just common sense speaking there.

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              • #47
                Re: IRAN declared itself a nuclear nation

                Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                Of all the countries that are portrayed as 'evil' in the west, n. korea fits the bill the most. What the little mad man has done to his own people imitates the worst that stalin ever did and then some.
                If the west just traded and conducted business with other countries without seeing the need to control its entire system of government, there wouldn't be any problems. As a result of foreign policy (I won't say U.S. foreign policy because the U.S. government in itself is controlled by foreign interests around the world), countries like North Korea and Cuba have been frozen in time. Iran is different since it doesn't need outside technology and is capable to advance on its own which is a great threat to powerful people who seek to have monpolies in every aspect of business.
                "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                • #48
                  Re: IRAN declared itself a nuclear nation

                  Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                  If the west just traded and conducted business with other countries without seeing the need to control its entire system of government, there wouldn't be any problems. As a result of foreign policy (I won't say U.S. foreign policy because the U.S. government in itself is controlled by foreign interests around the world), countries like North Korea and Cuba have been frozen in time. Iran is different since it doesn't need outside technology and is capable to advance on its own which is a great threat to powerful people who seek to have monpolies in every aspect of business.
                  Sometimes you speak the truth but i do ephasize sometimes lol. Btw Cuba and NK are not frozen in time. Remember NK conducting nuclear tests? Thats not being frozen in time- for that country its progress.
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                  • #49
                    Re: IRAN declared itself a nuclear nation

                    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                    Sometimes you speak the truth but i do ephasize sometimes lol. Btw Cuba and NK are not frozen in time. Remember NK conducting nuclear tests? Thats not being frozen in time- for that country its progress.
                    I always speak the truth... you just have to learn to read between the lines, lol. Well for NK, they are still stuck in WWII era fending off the Americans. For Cuba, they are still using cars from the 50's... had they conceded to defeat, they'd be fat and commercialized like their American counterparts. Iran can build their own cars since they had built automotive plants there with the help of Americans during WWII.
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                    • #50
                      Re: IRAN declared itself a nuclear nation

                      You need to know the truth to speak it. NK has been fending off the Americans so it could survive it doesnt mean it is stuck back in time especialy since it has been pretty successfull. Cuba - despite the embargo - can afford to have a effective national haelth care system which takes care of everyone but we still cant get it. Makes you wonder exactly who is stuck back in time sometimes.
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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