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  • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    Originally posted by Shant03 View Post
    By the way tell me about this Birthright trip, i've vaguely heard about it on facebook from a few contacts I have but don't know much about it.
    Birthright is something else, you should definitely look into it. The experience you get you can never get as a visitor unless you decide to live there for a long long period. I'd been there three times before I did Birthright, but in all those three times I didn't experience 10% of what I got out of Birthright. moreover you make connections with people there in business, education, govt that make you feel like a local even when you leave and want to come back some day.

    They basically pay for your flight, housing, a lot of trips and events there, in exchange for you to volunteer for four months in the country. You can do it for two months for 50% of flight, and 100% of other costs paid.

    The internship is in professional fields of choice. They get you just about anything, much better than most things you can land here. I had a pre-med friend who was in the operation room everyday alongside surgeons, something you could never do here.

    For the housing they put you with a family there and you live with them. The families are great and have been doing it for years. You basically become a member of the family

    Then there's weekly excursions to just about every place in the country, including places most locals hadn't even been. Then there's access to restricted sites that you would otherwise never get to see: including Artsakh front lines, Turkish-Armenian militarized border at the very edge-a few km beyond civilian access.

    then there's weekly key note speakers, and meetings with govt officials. We met a bunch of important CEO's, veteran groups, and government officials including president of Artsakh and the Defense Minister

    And there's a bunch of other stuff like going to game matches, parades, etc.


    Honestly every single person that I have met had a positive experience, and most say it was the best decision of their life to do it.

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    • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

      Birthright is exactly what I have been championing for many years. It makes hope about our future possible. I have seen young people who participated in similar programs and they all were very eager to return to Hayastan and to continue having a relationship with her. This is a part of nationbuilding and bringing our people togather.
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

        Originally posted by Mher View Post
        Birthright is something else, you should definitely look into it. The experience you get you can never get as a visitor unless you decide to live there for a long long period. I'd been there three times before I did Birthright, but in all those three times I didn't experience 10% of what I got out of Birthright. moreover you make connections with people there in business, education, govt that make you feel like a local even when you leave and want to come back some day.

        They basically pay for your flight, housing, a lot of trips and events there, in exchange for you to volunteer for four months in the country. You can do it for two months for 50% of flight, and 100% of other costs paid.

        The internship is in professional fields of choice. They get you just about anything, much better than most things you can land here. I had a pre-med friend who was in the operation room everyday alongside surgeons, something you could never do here.

        For the housing they put you with a family there and you live with them. The families are great and have been doing it for years. You basically become a member of the family

        Then there's weekly excursions to just about every place in the country, including places most locals hadn't even been. Then there's access to restricted sites that you would otherwise never get to see: including Artsakh front lines, Turkish-Armenian militarized border at the very edge-a few km beyond civilian access.

        then there's weekly key note speakers, and meetings with govt officials. We met a bunch of important CEO's, veteran groups, and government officials including president of Artsakh and the Defense Minister

        And there's a bunch of other stuff like going to game matches, parades, etc.


        Honestly every single person that I have met had a positive experience, and most say it was the best decision of their life to do it.
        Sounds amazing, I hope I can find the time one day. Thanks for the info!

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        • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

          Originally posted by Mher View Post
          Birthright is something else, you should definitely look into it. The experience you get you can never get as a visitor unless you decide to live there for a long long period. I'd been there three times before I did Birthright, but in all those three times I didn't experience 10% of what I got out of Birthright. moreover you make connections with people there in business, education, govt that make you feel like a local even when you leave and want to come back some day.

          They basically pay for your flight, housing, a lot of trips and events there, in exchange for you to volunteer for four months in the country. You can do it for two months for 50% of flight, and 100% of other costs paid.

          The internship is in professional fields of choice. They get you just about anything, much better than most things you can land here. I had a pre-med friend who was in the operation room everyday alongside surgeons, something you could never do here.

          For the housing they put you with a family there and you live with them. The families are great and have been doing it for years. You basically become a member of the family

          Then there's weekly excursions to just about every place in the country, including places most locals hadn't even been. Then there's access to restricted sites that you would otherwise never get to see: including Artsakh front lines, Turkish-Armenian militarized border at the very edge-a few km beyond civilian access.

          then there's weekly key note speakers, and meetings with govt officials. We met a bunch of important CEO's, veteran groups, and government officials including president of Artsakh and the Defense Minister

          And there's a bunch of other stuff like going to game matches, parades, etc.


          Honestly every single person that I have met had a positive experience, and most say it was the best decision of their life to do it.


          I am sad I am too old for such things.

          However when my daughter found out about this project http://www.birthrightarmenia.org/en/ she left a very good job to be able to participate.

          When she came back she couldn't stop talking about it.

          She will be visiting Armenia for the third time also with friends she made through this project.



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          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

            Originally posted by londontsi View Post
            I am sad I am too old for such things.

            However when my daughter found out about this project http://www.birthrightarmenia.org/en/ she left a very good job to be able to participate.

            When she came back she couldn't stop talking about it.

            She will be visiting Armenia for the third time also with friends she made through this project.



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            That is fantastic! Good luck to her.
            Hayastan or Bust.

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            • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

              Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
              That is fantastic! Good luck to her.
              Thanks !!

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              Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
              Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
              Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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              • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                lol...

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                • Armenia-Iran relations.

                  I think we need this thread due to rapidly developing relations.

                  IRAN, ARMENIA TAKE MAJOR STEP TOWARD VISA-FREE TRAVEL

                  10:16, 10 Jun 2015
                  Siranush Ghazanchyan

                  Iran and Armenia on Tuesday took a big step toward lifting visa
                  requirements for travelers from tencyhe two countries with the signing
                  of a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on consular affairs, Tansim
                  News agency reports.

                  The MoU was signed at the end of the 10th session of Iran-Armenia
                  joint consular meeting held in Tehran between the heads of the consular
                  departments of the foreign ministries of the two neighboring countries,
                  Ali Chegeni and Vladimir Karmirshalyan.

                  During the two-day meeting, the two diplomats exchanged views about
                  ways to promote Tehran-Yerevan relations in diverse areas.

                  The extradition of criminals, providing legal aid, increasing
                  facilities for merchants, investors, tourists, students and artists
                  were among other issues raised in the session.

                  Earlier in a Monday meeting with Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister for
                  Consular, Parliamentary and Expatriates' Affairs Hassan Qashqavi
                  in Tehran, Karmirshalyan had voiced his country's determination to
                  further develop cooperation with the Islamic Republic in various areas.

                  TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Iran and Armenia on Tuesday took a big step toward lifting visa requirements for travelers from the two countries with the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on consular affairs.


                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                  • Re: Armenia-Iran relations.

                    Removal of visas for Iranian citizens would almost certainly boost tourism, especially for Iranians who want to pass by Meghri simply for the casinos. Armenia stands to gain much more than Iran by the mutual removal of visas yet year after year it's Iran and not Armenia that calls for this.
                    Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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                    • Re: Armenia-Iran relations.

                      Originally posted by Federate View Post
                      Removal of visas for Iranian citizens would almost certainly boost tourism, especially for Iranians who want to pass by Meghri simply for the casinos. Armenia stands to gain much more than Iran by the mutual removal of visas yet year after year it's Iran and not Armenia that calls for this.
                      I am assuming it will be enough to show an Iranian passport to access through custom.
                      Will there be a register as to who goes in and who goes out of the country.
                      Will there be time limit per entry into the country.
                      What mechanism for chasing people who overstay.

                      Security concerns, Azerbaijan has sympathizer in Iran.
                      Do we have resources to counter any eventuality?

                      Say we have 50,000 – 100,000 tourists / visitors.
                      As tourists that's fine. How does one track the (potential) undesirables.

                      PS The UK has approx 500,000 illegals.
                      Nobody known who they are and where they are.
                      I am sure similar issues exist in the US.

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                      Last edited by londontsi; 06-10-2015, 08:15 AM.
                      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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