Iranian-Armenian relations

[Artashes]

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Quote: Victor Schnirelmann
:azur (academics) have been renaming Armenian names into Albanian--- to cleans Aarmenian history from area.
Gee , do you think the baboons would do that?
Golly, I wonder if they have ever done anything like that before?
Artashes

[arakeretzig]

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http://voskanapat.info/news/levon_melik_shakhnazarjan_u_voskanapata_drugaja_cel/2012-05-19-2249

- Большинство политологов в России прогнозируют, что война в Иране неизбежна. Какое у Вас на этот счет мнение? Если, не дай Бог, начнется война, какие шаги предпримет армянская община Ирана? Возможен ли переезд армян на постоянное место жительства в Республику Армения, или это будут какие-то другие страны? Готова ли будет Армения принять беженцев из Ирана?

- У меня немного другие прогнозы, и я надеюсь, война в Иране все же «избежна». По крайней мере, в ближайшее время. Меньше шансов избежать ее у Сирии, которую западный мир воспринимает как выход Ирана в арабский мир. План прост, хотя от этого он не становится менее подлым: уничтожить Сирию и перекрыть Ирану еще один доступ к кислороду. Не рискуя напасть на Иран, США, Израиль и Ко надеются задушить его. После Ирана на очереди, кстати, Россия.

Что касается армянской общины Ирана, а, в данном случае, также и Сирии, я считаю, что, будучи гражданами этих стран, они, скорее всего, будут выполнять свой гражданский долг. Не надо забывать, как и почему армяне оказались там, особенно в Сирии. Что же касается их семей, то вопрос – Готова ли Армения принять их? – просто не должен стоять. Обязана!

Исходя из исторических реалий, родственных и экономических связей большая часть армянской диаспоры Сирии уедет в Европу и США. С Ираном ситуация иная. В случае форс-мажорного развития ситуации в этой стране мы должны быть готовы к тому, что в Армению переедет большинство армянского населения Ирана.

maybe it's the fate of iranian armenians to come back to the motherland after all these centuries. In contrast, most syrian armos will go to Europe.

[Eddo211]

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Talk about cronic butt hurt....

Azerbaijan Blames ‘Armenian Lobby’ For Deepening Row With Iran



High-ranking representatives of Azerbaijan’s ruling party have blamed Armenia and the worldwide “Armenian lobby” for their country’s mounting tensions with Iran that led Tehran to withdraw its ambassador from Baku on Tuesday.

The envoy was recalled “for consultations” after months of bitter recriminations traded by the two neighboring nations over alleged interference in each other’s affairs.

Iran has accused fellow Shia Muslim Azerbaijan of helping Israel to assassinate Iranian nuclear scientists and facilitating possible Israeli and U.S. air strikes against the Islamic Republic’s nuclear facilities. The Azerbaijani government strongly denies this, saying implicitly that Tehran itself has been fomenting Islamic extremism on its territory. Dozens of people have been arrested in Azerbaijan this year on suspicion of links with Iran’s Revolutionary Guards.

Earlier this month, hundreds of angry Azerbaijanis demonstrated outside the Iranian Embassy in Baku in a series of apparently government-organized protests. They condemned, among other things, Iran’s warm ties with Christian Armenia. Some of the protesters carried derogatory pictures of Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Tehran reacted angrily to the protests this week, with a senior Iranian cleric reportedly urging Muslims in the region to protest the Azerbaijani government’s “anti-Islamic” behavior. In particular, Ayatollah Sobhani cited Baku’s hosting of the annual Eurovision Song Contest that began on Tuesday.

The ensuing departure of the Iranian ambassador drew a strong condemnation from senior members of Azerbaijan’s government-controlled parliament. “The Armenian lobby is behind the anti-Azerbaijani propaganda conducted against the background of the Eurovision song contest,” the parliament speaker, Oktay Asadov, was quoted by the Baku daily “Zerkalo” as saying.

“Armenian [Internet] sites reported beforehand on the scenario of the anti-Azerbaijani campaign launched in Iran,” Asadov said during a parliament session. “There is evidence of that.”

Mubariz Gurbanli, the deputy executive secretary of President Ilham Aliyev’s Yeni Azerbaycan Party, likewise alleged on Wednesday close cooperation between the Iranian leadership and “the Armenian lobby.” “Some circles as well as groups within the current Iranian regime are repeating the actions of the Armenian lobby and executing its orders,” he said, according to the Trend news agency.

Gurbanli claimed that the Armenians also had a hand in recent anti-Aliyev demonstrations held in Tebriz, a city in northern Iran mostly populated by ethnic Azerbaijanis. He also made the point that Azerbaijan’s victory in last year’s Eurovision, which entitled it to hosting the 2012 show, demonstrated his country’s “superiority over Armenia.”

“Worried about this success by Azerbaijan, the Armenian side is making every effort to hinder this event and denigrate it in eyes of others,” the Azerbaijani official charged.

Armenia announced earlier this year that it will boycott the Eurovision show in Baku because of Aliyev’s March 1 remark that “the Armenians of the world” are his nation’s main enemy.

The Azerbaijani president made a similar, albeit more carefully worded, statement on April 16. “For us, the number one enemy is the Armenian lobby,” he said, holding it responsible for Western criticism of his government’s poor human rights record.

http://www.armenialiberty.org/conten.../24590950.html

[Mos]

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Talk about cronic butt hurt....

Iran, Russia on our side...we have them surrounded.

[retro]

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He also made the point that Azerbaijan’s victory in last year’s Eurovision, which entitled it to hosting the 2012 show, demonstrated his country’s “superiority over Armenia.”

Azeris are funny!

[Mos]

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Azeris are funny!

They are just butthurt over getting their asses handed to them during Karabakh War.

[arakeretzig]

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loser syndrome is often chronic.

[Surenas]

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'Armenia Turns Into Iranian Outpost'

Interview with Asim Mollazade, member of the working group on interparliamentary ties Azerbaijan-US, Milli Majlis deputy.

Q: Can the new US approach to the resolution of the Karabakh conflict, declared by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during her visit to the South Caucasus region change the established status quo in the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia?

A: Armenia is the main reason of the absence of any achievements in Karabakh settlement. This country recently stopped even imitating its participation in the peace process. Armenia’s position is the continued occupation of the Azerbaijani lands and preservation of the conflict. In its policy, Armenia relies on the forces that back it. Therefore, Armenia’s main policy is destabilization of the situation in the South Caucasus region and continuation of an aggressive policy. However, it is regretful that the Minsk Group co-chairs just limit to usual ‘common’ statements.

Today the Azerbaijani side faced an unprecedented fact when a part of the country was occupied by a neighbor state which recently refused to take any part in the negotiation process. This situation has been lasting for over 20 years and the resolutions adopted by the UN Security Council, European parliament, Council of Europe and other international organizations, urging to ensure the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan and end Armenia’s occupational policy remain unfulfilled.

Q: Does the United States have real leverages of influencing Baku and Yerevan to attain compromise in the resolution of the Karabakh conflict?

A: I consider that Azerbaijan has made a sufficient compromise. Azerbaijan adopted all proposals of the OSCE Minsk Group. However, there are no responsive steps that are the compromises of the Armenian side. Therefore, the stiff, uncompromised position of Armenia is the main obstacle to progress in peace process. This country is the main obstacle for Euroatlantic integration of Azerbaijan and Georgia. Armenia has turned itself into the military outpost and the main ally of Iran in the region.

Q: During her stay in Armenia, Clinton said that three principles of international law, in particular, provision of the territorial integrity of the state, provision of the right of nations for self-determination and nonuse of force must be applied to the resolution of the Karabakh conflict. Are these principles not contrary to the resolution of the Karabakh conflict?

A: None of these principles go contrary to the position of Azerbaijan in the resolution of the Karabakh conflict. Provision of territorial integrity is the most important principle for Armenia in the resolution of the Karabakh conflict. All the same, Azerbaijan accepts the need to ensure the right of nations for self-determination since this international principle does not mean creation of a separate state, especially that the Armenian people have already self-determined within Armenia. Therefore, Azerbaijan is able to ensure autonomy and self-government to Armenians living in Nagorno Karabakh, that is in Azerbaijan.

In addition to this, Azerbaijan also agreed to ensure them with international guarantees of security. Azerbaijan has already taken huge steps to solve the Karabakh conflict and achievement of peace. Azerbaijan is sincerely interested in peace since the country has a great number of tasks and programs. Azerbaijan needs peace in the region from strategic standpoint.

Q: During the visit to the South Caucasus Clinton again stated the need to normalize ties between Turkey and Armenia. Can the US pressure on the issue of the Turkish-Armenian normalization accelerate or hinder the resolution of the Karabakh conflict?

A: Azerbaijan is not against normalization of relations between Turkey and Armenia. However, the reason hampering the normalization is the continued occupation of Azerbaijani lands by Armenia. I think that the whole world has understood that the Zurich protocols which did not include the resolution of the Karabakh conflict were senseless.

Q: To what extent is the United States interested in the resolution of the Karabakh conflict?

A: I have no doubts that the United States is interested in the resolution of the Karabakh conflict. All the same, every US steps, especially in the years of elections in this country, are held with caution to a very rich and politically active Armenian diaspora. Azerbaijan would like the United States to do everything possible for the liberation of lands. I am sure that peace in the South Caucasus is necessary not only to Azerbaijan but also its allies including the United States.

http://www.historyoftruth.com/news/latest/12083-armenia-turns-into-iranian-outpost-

[Mos]

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Surenas, don't quote "historyoftruth" articles here. Most of the things there are just Turkish BS. They will use phrases such as "outpost of Iran" to get clueless Western politicians on their side. If you noticed: "Asim Mollazade, member of the working group on interparliamentary ties Azerbaijan-US, Milli Majlis deputy". His agenda is clear - to get as much US favouritism as he can get. Of course, we do have warm relations with Iran, and that is very good for our national interests, but we are certainly not an "outpost".

[Surenas]

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Surenas, don't quote "historyoftruth" articles here. Most of the things there are just Turkish BS. They will use phrases such as "outpost of Iran" to get clueless Western politicians on their side. If you noticed: "Asim Mollazade, member of the working group on interparliamentary ties Azerbaijan-US, Milli Majlis deputy". His agenda is clear - to get as much US favouritism as he can get. Of course, we do have warm relations with Iran, and that is very good for our national interests, but we are certainly not an "outpost".

Aha, never knew that this website has a bad reputation here. I saw the article on this forum and thought it would be interesting to put it here.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/iranian-defence/188297-armenia-turns-into-iranian-outpost-against-azerbaijan.html

The man talks nonsense of course. Describing Armenia as an outpost of Iran is quite misleading.