Iranian-Armenian relations

[Artashes]

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Not all the people in Northern Iran are brainwashed, majority of them know the true history of the newly formed republic of azerbaijan.
Iranian Azeri historian and expert on Persian history Dr. Kaveh Farrokh wrote: PAN-TURANIANISM TAKES AIM AT AZERBAIJAN:
A Geopolitical Agenda

http://www.rozanehmagazine.com/NoveDec05/aazariINDEX.HTML

You guys should give it a read. He talks about how Stalin created azerbaijan because he wanted to claim Northern Iran quoting Vasily Bartold, Russian historian and Turcologist:


He talks about how Stalin referred to famous Iranian poets and artists as famous azeris, etc.

Arran? Those are tatars(Russian) or Tartars(everyone else). A turco hominoid that first raped the hinterland of what is now Russia and then invaded Baku region. Hay was living on the shores of the Caspian for millennia before they came to murder and steal. Arran is not the name of them but a stolen and transformed word(like they change Erivan).
Artshes

[UrMistake]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Etkanel jist axpers , Same thing i was about to say bravo .

[Eddo211]

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How are the "Turks" of Northern Iran in their relationship with Armenians/Armenia. It worries me that the Northern part of Iran that borders Armenia is filled with these brainwashed "Azeris".

Iranian Turks are good with Armenians (both are minorities) and being an Azari in Iran is not considered a minority. For example the former Queen of Iran was Azary, the current Supreme leader of Iran is Azary. The Armenians of Tabriz (not manny left) are known to be the toughest and the Gray Wolf movement is limited to the soccer hoolagans and such. Iranian government has made some positive moves in stopping these.

If Iran looses contol of its territory under an invasion then northern Iran can be overwelmed and Armenia completely suround. Also the gates of Panturkism will open up, neither Russia or Iran would want that, in fact they fear that and will do all they can to prevent thar feom happening. Armenia holds this leverage.

[Eddo211]

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I am not trying to disturb friendly relations of many years. I'm not questioning the sincerity of many Persians in these contemporary times.
If I have recollected right, first the Parthians and then the Persians came to our ancient lands with zero friendly intentions.
As with the case of the Romans and virtually all the other thugs(but not Alexander) we ran them off the first time but were unable to handle the repeated attacks.
What is called northern Iran(bordering Armenia) is littered with ancient Armenian structures that predate any Persian presence . It was the Persians that forcefully moved Armenians out of the region and moved their people in.
In ancient times they were not friends.
I have cut stones(gemes) for decades and have always(no exceptions) had to deal with an Armenian when I bought Persian turquoise(really Armenian).
Before the Assyrians(long before) there was Agade. Go back from there to see ancient. Look to Persepolis which is a long way from Armenia(Hay) if you want to see those people in ancient times because in ancient times they are nowhere to be found anywhere near the land of Hay.
Artashes

Blind nationalism.......fck yea.

[Mos]

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Iranian Turks are good with Armenians (both are minorities) and being an Azari in Iran is not considered a minority. For example the former Queen of Iran was Azary, the current Supreme leader of Iran is Azary. The Armenians of Tabriz (not manny left) are known to be the toughest and the Gray Wolf movement is limited to the soccer hoolagans and such. Iranian government has made some positive moves in stopping these.

If Iran looses contol of its territory under an invasion then northern Iran can be overwelmed and Armenia completely suround. Also the gates of Panturkism will open up, neither Russia or Iran would want that, in fact they fear that and will do all they can to prevent thar feom happening. Armenia holds this leverage.

Thanks for the info, our resident Parskahye

just imagine how much more powerful Iranian Armenian relations would be if Iran wasn't violently isolated by the West.

[Artashes]

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Blind nationalism.......fck yea.

I'm not clear on your meaning?
Do you mean: I'm being blindly nationalistic and my words had no merit? Or?

[UrMistake]

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Blind nationalism.......fck yea.

Blind no , i took just a fact , don't forget former allies become enemy's in history , at some point it will and again it will be not Armenian fault but blind Muslim fanatics , that's im afraid of , we all know how close is Iran with Pakistan . Western Iran would be against Russian-Armenian interests.

[Mos]

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My only worry for Iran is if Islamic revolution takes place in Azerbaijan and it allies itself with Azerbaijan. but such an event is very unlikely in the near future...

[Artashes]

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Its in Farsi.....a message of good will to our ancient friends.

I have made made an error of great inconsideration to Eddo and I apologize for my lack of forethought in choosing the time I spoke. I cannot go back and check all posts to be sure of my accuracy but I gatherered you are an Armenian Bourne in present day Iran. I can understand having friends (valued friends) and I can certainly see treating friends. Because my comments emmediatly followed your friendly greeting this can easily seem that I was saying negative about your friendly greeting to your friends. I wasn't . I appolize.
To cut through a lotta talk,if you are from the approximate area that I think one of your posts indicated than here's what I actually think: can't go back and check accuracy now so please excuse(look to the point).approx. 1500 years was when I was talking about. Amazingly after all this time an Armenian is still Bourne in the old home. When I think of a man that was Bourne in the land of Hay. The community there was incredibly vibrant. The trade and family from there to current Baku to Ararat to Van to All around was dynamic. In my eyes you are remnant of those people's. Am I mistaken?

[Artashes]

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I have made made an error of great inconsideration to Eddo and I apologize for my lack of forethought in choosing the time I spoke. I cannot go back and check all posts to be sure of my accuracy but I gatherered you are an Armenian Bourne in present day Iran. I can understand having friends (valued friends) and I can certainly see treating friends. Because my comments emmediatly followed your friendly greeting this can easily seem that I was saying negative about your friendly greeting to your friends. I wasn't . I appolize.
To cut through a lotta talk,if you are from the approximate area that I think one of your posts indicated than here's what I actually think: can't go back and check accuracy now so please excuse(look to the point).approx. 1500 years was when I was talking about. Amazingly after all this time an Armenian is still Bourne in the old home. When I think of a man that was Bourne in the land of Hay. The community there was incredibly vibrant. The trade and family from there to current Baku to Ararat to Van to All around was dynamic. In my eyes you are remnant of those people's. Am I mistaken?

also didn't say that when you speak of places in that area and say :there aren't many (Armenians) left it hurts. That place was 100 percent Armenian.
I sometimes think we have been ceaselessly attacked because of our prosperity for that whole region was extremely prosporouse land of Hay.
Artashes