Iranian-Armenian relations

[Mos]

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Yea I don't doubt the Iranian general saying that while visiting that area.....he is giving lip service really, they have to be able to control them after all....things get out of hand in northern Iran with massive demonstrations. Just lately the Lake Urmia demonstrations were highjaked by the Turkic Azeris turning it into a Azerbaijan demonstration (seperatists) throwing Graywolf signs.

All we need is Russia to be have poor relations with Azerbaijan and good relations with Iran, and Azerbaijan will be effectively surrounded. Hopefully the incompetent leadership of Az. makes more mistakes and makes this strategic blunder. It will be very hard for Az. to defeat our army, but with Russia and Iran on our side, such a move by Az. will result in their self-destruction. God Willing.

An interesting article:

Defense shield in Turkey may threaten Armenia-US relations – ARFD

September 21, 2011 | 03:22
YEREVAN.- The fact that U.S. relies on Turkey by placing NATO missile defense, does not give Armenia reason for positive expectations, Giro Manoyan, head of central Hay Dat (Armenian Cause) office, member of ARF Dashnaktsutyun told Armenian News-NEWS.am.

Manoyan said deployment of radars in Turkey will result in rising tension in the region.

“Not only Iran, but Armenia also has reason for concern. Turkey is the most trusted country for the United States in the region, which means that Armenia will not have less problems, because Turkey is a major threat for Armenia,” he said.

According to Manoyan, U.S. entrusted one of the pillars of its security to Turkey which means relations between Armenia and U.S. may be threatened. To avoid such developments, Armenia should give U.S. to understand that Turkey remains a threat to Armenia.

Turkey and U.S. signed an agreement on September 14 to deploy early warning radars as a part of missile defense system created by the U.S. and NATO in Turkey.

This may not mean much, maybe it does, but as a person who frequently visits Youtube, I have noticed that it is the Iranian users that almost never post ant-Armenian videos/comments - it's usually all for support.

However, given the complicated politics of our diasporas, we cannot have poor relations with the West, thus there is a barrier in our cooperation with Iran and Armenian Government adheres this barrier because the consequences are not pretty. It's unfortunate that our relations are limited in this manner.

[Mos]

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Armenians enjoy special status and respect in Iran – Iranian FM





November 08, 2011 | 20:36
YEREVAN. - Armenia and Iran are resolute in deepening and boosting bilateral friendly and economic ties, said Speaker of Armenian Parliament Hovik Abrahamyan at the meeting with Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi on Tuesday.

“Armenia is a reliable neighbor and friend of Iran,” said Salehi. Reflecting upon the future prospects of mutual economic development, he emphasized the key role of projects designed for transport and energy spheres. He praised the input of Armenian community in fostering the bilateral ties.

“Armenians enjoy special status and are respected by everybody in Iran,” Salehi added.

The sides touched upon regional issues and questions of mutual interest.

[ninetoyadome]

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Iran's Love Mission to Armenia
November 9, 2011 - 12:23pm, by Giorgi Lomsadze Tamada Tales Armenia Foreign Policy Iran EurasiaNet's Weekly Digest
Amid the growing threat of a Western shakedown for its alleged nuclear secrets, Iran is continuing with its regional charm campaign in the South Caucasus. During Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi’s November 8 visit to Yerevan, Tehran again pushed for visa-free travel with Armenia and for boosting bilateral trade.

Visa-free relations have become a major regional policy theme for Iran, which already dropped visa requirements for Armenia’s neighbors, Azerbaijan and Georgia. But only Georgia -- curiously, the most fervently Western-centric of the three -- has reciprocated the move.

Azerbaijan, wary of Iranian meddling in its domestic affairs, either secular or spiritual, has been dragging its feet.

It was not immediately clear if Armenia is ready to commit to visa-free relations with Iran. Previously, Armenia politely smiled off Iran's advances, but Yerevan has more than one reason to make nice with its powerful neighbor.

For landlocked Armenia, friendship works vertically, and animosity horizontally. It is sandwiched between enemies to the west and east (Turkey and Azerbaijan), while its only close regional friends sit to the north and south (Russia and Iran).

And what a friend Tehran hopes to be. It promised to invest in two hydropower stations in Armenia and help build a natural gas pipeline to export Iranian gas. Salehi said in Yerevan that he would like to see bilateral trade turnover grow beyond the current $300 million and the number of Iranian tourists to Armenia increase from 100,000 to a million per year.

Increased trade and simplified travel policies seem to be helping Tehran feel more solid ground under its feet in the neighborhood, which is, after all, a somewhat familiar stomping ground from Persian times.

Cognizant of Iran's growing economic opportunities, the South Caucasus countries have never backed Western concerns about Iran’s nuclear ambitions, and, so far, have opted to stay out of the battle of the big powers.

To be continued . . .

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/64483

[Mher]

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Iran-Armenia relations are closest in region – Iranian ambassador

April 19, 2012 | 16:45

TEHRAN. – Armenia’s Ambassador to Iran, Grigor Arakelyan, and Iran’s newly appointed Ambassador to Armenia, Mohammad Reisi, got together with the Iran’s Armenian press members, Arax Armenian weekly of Tehran informs.

First, Ambassador Arakelyan spoke about the Iran-Armenia friendly relations.

In his turn, Ambassador Reisi noted that he is well familiar with the Armenians since his childhood and appreciates their contribution to Iran. He added that the Armenians are always respected.

“The Armenian-Persian relations have been close and friendly, and the Iran-Armenia relations are the closest ones among the countries in the region also today,” the Iranian ambassador noted.

“Our political and cultural ties are on a high level, but the same cannot be said about the economic ones. And I am hopeful we will register progress in this domain,” Mohammad Reisi stressed.

http://news.am/eng/news/101955.html

[Eddo211]

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To in donia toghmee e ma Iraniha behtarine doostaye ma hastan....vaghean baradarime ma ba inha.

[UrMistake]

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To in donia toghmee e ma Iraniha behtarine doostaye ma hastan....vaghean baradarime ma ba inha.

Inch ?

[Eddo211]

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Its in Farsi.....a message of good will to our ancient friends.

[Mos]

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Its in Farsi.....a message of good will to our ancient friends.

How are the "Turks" of Northern Iran in their relationship with Armenians/Armenia. It worries me that the Northern part of Iran that borders Armenia is filled with these brainwashed "Azeris".

[ninetoyadome]

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How are the "Turks" of Northern Iran in their relationship with Armenians/Armenia. It worries me that the Northern part of Iran that borders Armenia is filled with these brainwashed "Azeris".

Not all the people in Northern Iran are brainwashed, majority of them know the true history of the newly formed republic of azerbaijan.
Iranian Azeri historian and expert on Persian history Dr. Kaveh Farrokh wrote: PAN-TURANIANISM TAKES AIM AT AZERBAIJAN:
A Geopolitical Agenda

http://www.rozanehmagazine.com/NoveDec05/aazariINDEX.HTML

You guys should give it a read. He talks about how Stalin created azerbaijan because he wanted to claim Northern Iran quoting Vasily Bartold, Russian historian and Turcologist:

“The name “Azerbaijan” for the Republic of Azerbaijan (Soviet Azerbaijan) was selected on the assumption that the stationing of such as republic would lead to that entity Iranian to become one…this is the reason why the name “Azerbaijan” was selected (for Arran)…anytime when it is necessary to select a name that refers to the territory of the Republic of Azerbaijan, we should/can select the name Arran…”

He talks about how Stalin referred to famous Iranian poets and artists as famous azeris, etc.

[Artashes]

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Its in Farsi.....a message of good will to our ancient friends.

I am not trying to disturb friendly relations of many years. I'm not questioning the sincerity of many Persians in these contemporary times.
If I have recollected right, first the Parthians and then the Persians came to our ancient lands with zero friendly intentions.
As with the case of the Romans and virtually all the other thugs(but not Alexander) we ran them off the first time but were unable to handle the repeated attacks.
What is called northern Iran(bordering Armenia) is littered with ancient Armenian structures that predate any Persian presence . It was the Persians that forcefully moved Armenians out of the region and moved their people in.
In ancient times they were not friends.
I have cut stones(gemes) for decades and have always(no exceptions) had to deal with an Armenian when I bought Persian turquoise(really Armenian).
Before the Assyrians(long before) there was Agade. Go back from there to see ancient. Look to Persepolis which is a long way from Armenia(Hay) if you want to see those people in ancient times because in ancient times they are nowhere to be found anywhere near the land of Hay.
Artashes