Iranian-Armenian relations

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

You can get the death penalty for adultery in Iran. I quoted the excerpt from Iran's official penal code to Kanadahye a few pages ago.

And you can inherit half a man's wealth for adultery in America

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Azeri on the regional ties...

Iran fears Azerbaijani-Turkish cooperation, expert says
March 25, 2011 - 11:46 AMT 07:46 GMT
PanARMENIAN.Net - Iran fears the successful Azerbaijani-Turkish tandem, an Azeri expert said.

Commenting on the developing cooperation between Armenia and Iran, Fikret Sadykhov said Iran just wants to have a couple of neighbors to help it push forth common interests.”

“Armenia is the most favorable option for Iran over its ongoing conflict with Azerbaijan, whose succeeds arouses Tehran’s jealousy. That is why Iran believes strengthening of relations with Armenia to be the best way to hamper the expansion Azerbaijan’s influence throughout the region,” he said.

“Iran also fears the strengthening of domestic Azeri factor and the increasing role of Azeris in the country’s political life. Besides, Tehran is concerned over Azerbaijan’s cooperation with western countries. Nevertheless, I think the internal political factors can influence Iran’s foreign policy, including its relations with Armenia,” Sadykhov said, quoted by 1news.az.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Sargsyan in Iran for Novruz,

[Federate]

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Great pics! The importance of inviting the president of Armenia to an event such as Novruz speaks volumes about Iran's stance on Armenia. Why this is pretty epic for us in terms of symbolism is that we're a Christian nation that does not observe Novruz yet we were invited and not only that, but held separate talks with the President and soon with the Supreme Leader of Iran. It is even sweeter that Aliyev did not show up to the event and sent a lower level representative. I understand that the leader of Afghanistan, Iraq, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan are there too, SS should grab the opportunity and meet with these leaders too, at least briefly, just to strengthen bilateral relations or even just symbolism.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Aliyev didn't come when he found out Sargsyan was attending. That idiot just has no clue how to conduct foreign policy, he's going to ruin his country soon.

I can't say I'm to enthusiastic in developing relations with countries such as Tajikistan or Afghanistan. They seem a step back for us.

[Federate]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Aliyev didn't come when he found out Sargsyan was attending. That idiot just has no clue how to conduct foreign policy, he's going to ruin his country soon.

I can't say I'm to enthusiastic in developing relations with countries such as Tajikistan or Afghanistan. They seem a step back for us.

His strategy seems to be to try to deter Iran from developing relations with Armenia by making indirect criticisms or boycotting events like this. It's backfiring as it's not deterring Iran

For Tajikistan and Afghanistan, it is never bad to have relations with any country + we need to develop relations with as many Muslim states as possible, take advantage of the situation. We have troops in Afghanistan, it would be great for Serge to say hi to Karzai and mention how we're "helping Afghanistan" with our presence.

[Federate]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Armenian Wiki has a page on Novruz http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%86%...B8%D6%82%D5%A6

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

His strategy seems to be to try to deter Iran from developing relations with Armenia by making indirect criticisms or boycotting events like this. It's backfiring as it's not deterring Iran

For Tajikistan and Afghanistan, it is never bad to have relations with any country + we need to develop relations with as many Muslim states as possible, take advantage of the situation. We have troops in Afghanistan, it would be great for Serge to say hi to Karzai and mention how we're "helping Afghanistan" with our presence.

If Aliyev wants to deter Iran from developing relations with Armenia there's 2 things he can do. One, is more cooperation on energy projects regarding oil and gas, and second, is lowering ties with Israel. Of course he won't do this, and in return he will be surrounded by enemies, ready to divide is fake country up.

In my view, Aliyev cares more about his oil profits and keeping it flowing, than Karabakh, Iran, refugees, and so on. He builds fancy buildings here and there to show that Azerbaijan is "improving" but in reality it isn't.

[Persopolis]

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Armenian Wiki has a page on Novruz http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%86%...B8%D6%82%D5%A6

1. In Wikileaks Aliyev described his ties to Israel as an iceberg (5% of which is seen on the surface / 95% of which is hidden below the surface) - ironically that's what ended the Captain of the Titanic. Aliyev has already started purchasing millions in property in Dubai and elsewhere (likely to flee to).

2. Nowruz ("New Day") pre-dates the Abrahamic faiths - Historically, all people connected with the Persian Empire celebrated it, including Armenians. It's more of a secular holdiay today (except for Persian Zoroastrians) - it transcends people and faiths in the region. Nowruz is about 12 days of celebrations; it's a time to go to friends houses, eat sweets and food, listen to traditional music, dance, clean the house, dress nicely, buy flowers for the house, etc. Someone should update the Armenian Wiki (it will be important to the region later in terms of diplomacy, economics, and defense). Georgia has adopted Nowruz as an official holiday. Just so everyone knows, Christianity and Nowruz are perfectly compatible. Nowruz also works against Pan-Turanism (they hate it). I remember as a kid going to the houses of Armenian friends for Nowruz and listening to traditional Armenian music also. Nowrooz also reminds the Pan-Turkic element that when Armenia had its strongest historical ties (from its creation up to about 200 years ago) Armenian lands were 3x the size they are now - Also, if the Kurds annex a portion of Turkey, Nowrooz may help Armenia get a portion of Western Armenia back though simple diplomacy. Next year, Armenians should go to Nowruz parties, invite traditional Armenian musicians and dancers, and have a great time. Armenia's Nowruz diplomacy can stand to open up its economy to 300 million people (the number of people that celebrate it).

3. Iran will probably rebuild 60% of Afghanistan after the war - to try to bring it in line with modern societies. On Iran's border, it has already started doing this with some pretty positive results. An Afghanistan with a higher literacy rate, improved businesses, less-drug trade, and better infrastructure will benefit everyone in the region.

[Joseph]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

If Aliyev wants to deter Iran from developing relations with Armenia there's 2 things he can do. One, is more cooperation on energy projects regarding oil and gas, and second, is lowering ties with Israel. Of course he won't do this, and in return he will be surrounded by enemies, ready to divide is fake country up.

In my view, Aliyev cares more about his oil profits and keeping it flowing, than Karabakh, Iran, refugees, and so on. He builds fancy buildings here and there to show that Azerbaijan is "improving" but in reality it isn't.

Spot on.