Iranian-Armenian relations

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Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

You are giving way too much credit to turkey. In 30 years they have yet to put down the PKK, and you think they can take on a regional power like Iran? Also, the Azaris of north Iran are not the same as those in azerbaijan. One is an Iranic people speaking a turkic language, the other a mostly turkic people speaking a turkic language. I see you have fallen pray to pan-turkic propaganda.

Also, we are talking about a 1 on 1 war, but realistically the West would try to get involved since they would love nothing more than to get rid of the Mullahs. As for the kurds, it is too difficult to predict what they would do since they come in so many different shapes and sizes, ideologically speaking of course. Plus, many remember the promises made to them by turkey during the Genocide, and they will not fall victim to it again. They would likely demand to be paid before hand, something the turks wouldn't do.

I know that two groups of Azaris differ. However the Azaris give the Turks a premise and whos to say that the Azaris of north Iran are as loyal to Iran as they claim. The Kurds as you point out are something of a wildcard and their reputation for treachery is such. That it's very likely that they would become embroiled in any regional conflict.

The PKK are an decentralized, asymmetric force, not a conventional army and counter-terrorism is notoriously problematic to deal with. However in the event of a Turko-Persian war. Turkeys Airforce and Navy would likely take Iran's air defences and communications apart in short order.

Whilst the Sunnis don't regard the Shia or Sufis as being Muslims. Where the Shia score against the Sunnis is demographics and it's telling that 10% of Saudi is now Shia.

I agree with what you say you about Russia and as long as Iran and Syria are within Russia's orb. They are fairly safe from the West. However Iran's recent move to establish a Naval presence in Syria risks agitating Israel and Europe.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

He's Persian - his audience speaks Persian: Wouldn't it be the other way around? i.e., He's careful not write anything controversial in Persian? Surely the Iranian government can read Persian. There goes your theory .... "Environmental degradation" of a statue is "controversial" if written in English? *Oh my god ... Chicago will riot if he puts captions in English ... Iran must hide the "environmental degradation" of old statues. Write it in Persian.*

Thus you reveal your true identity: a two-faced duplicitous Iranian-style propagandist by nature.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Iranian Boys Have More Courage Than Most Turkish Men (Iran/Iraq War 1981)
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How can such a backward nation survive in the modern era? Did he have a photo of your Hitler pinned on his uniform because he believed it would protect him from Iraqi bullets, or because he knew nothing would protect him from them, but he believed it guaranteed him entry to paradise and the 70 virgins he only dreamt about in life.

If Iranians had had real courage - which is courage with a brain attached to it, they would have turned on their leaders and strung up Khomeini and his mullahs from the lampposts of Tehran as revenge for the million Iranian lives he had needlessly ended.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

How can such a backward nation survive in the modern era? Did he have a photo of your Hitler pinned on his uniform because he believed it would protect him from Iraqi bullets, or because he knew nothing would protect him from them, but he believed it guaranteed him entry to paradise and the 70 virgins he only dreamt about in life.

If Iranians had had real courage, had had courage with a brain attached to it, they would have strung up Khomeini and his mullahs from the lampposts of Tehran as revenge for the million Iranian lives he had needlessly ended.

The Iran-Iraq war was a western invention so if the mullahs are to blame then that should tell you where their allegiances lie. Iraq also invaded Iran, not the other way around.

[Mukuch]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

They are not more expensive. The hotel situation in Armenia is one of the main things holding back tourism development: the hotels are very few in number and are all vastly overpriced and are mostly catering for the luxury market. Also, since they are almost all mafia-owned, little of the profits reaches the local population. The mafia influence must be the reason there are so few mid-price or budget hotels: there is a vast untapped market in Armenia for such hotels, but the oligarchs want to maintain their luxury hotel monopolies and their profits.

Well as we get out of topic... let me ask you Bell, it seems you are very well aware of hotel business in Armenia, I believe as well in turkey, so DO YOU KNOW THAT 90% OF HOTELS IN EASTERN TURKEY BUILD WITH JUST ONE PURPOSE? DRAG MONEY LOUNDRING? Why don’t we talk about that?

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

The Iran-Iraq war was a western invention so if the mullahs are to blame then that should tell you where their allegiances lie. Iraq also invaded Iran, not the other way around.

Iran invaded Iraq: Iran had, over the course of several decades, annexed numerous bits of Iraqi territory, most of it economically unimportant but some of it very important since it had access to oil reserves. The tensions between Iran and Iraq had this illegal annexing of land belonging to Iraq at its core, the post-revolution attempts by the Iranians to export their ideology into Iraq and topple its government just pushed things over the edge.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Iran invaded Iraq: Iran had, over the course of several decades, annexed numerous bits of Iraqi territory, most of it economically unimportant but some of it very important since it had access to oil reserves. The tensions between Iran and Iraq had this illegal annexing of land belonging to Iraq at its core, the post-revolution attempts by the Iranians to export their ideology into Iraq and topple its government just pushed things over the edge.

It was a settlement, they didn't "annex" it militarily http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Algiers_Agreement

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

How can such a backward nation survive in the modern era? Did he have a photo of your Hitler pinned on his uniform because he believed it would protect him from Iraqi bullets, or because he knew nothing would protect him from them, but he believed it guaranteed him entry to paradise and the 70 virgins he only dreamt about in life.

Spoken like a K*ke. The real point is that Iranian boys are braver than Turks & J*ws. Did you like the picture of the Mirkava tank turned upside down? Get used to it. Have you seen the film of the Israeli battle ship hit with an Iranian rocket off the the coast of Lebanon? I prefer the film of it to the photos because you see the Israelis torn apart by the blast.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hezbollah-hit-israeli-ship-with-iranian-missile

Israel: Iran Aided Hezbollah Ship Attack
Jul 15, 10:58 AM (ET)
By MATT MOORE
JERUSALEM (AP) – A missile fired by Hezbollah, not an unmanned drone laden with explosives, damaged an Israeli warship off Lebanon, the army said Saturday. Elite Iranian troops helped fire the missile, a senior Israeli intelligence official said.

Hezbollah is a small paramilitary force trained by Iran: Imagine what the full Iranian army could do to Ankara or Baku. You can stand on the beach in Iran and hit Baku. Iran only supplied Hezbollah with some smaller weapons - imagine arming them bigger ones and increasing that force by a million men.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

It was a settlement, they didn't "annex" it militarily http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Algiers_Agreement

Yes, I know. People have just gotten used the idea that Bell-the-cat's conclusions are unsupported by anything.

Again you are correct: Iraq supported by U.S. hardware, chemical and biological weapons, intelligence and commandos tried to attack Iran when Iran effectively did not have a military because the Shah's high-command and forces loyal to him went into exile. They couldn't do anything to Iran even under these circumstances. Subsequently, the U.S. decided to invade Iraq after Saddam had very little military capability left after the Iran/Iraq war. Now the U.S. forces are in a prison in Iraq called the "green zone" while Iranian officers walk the streets of Iraq; the same holds true in Afghanistan.

The Iran-Iraq war was a western invention so if the mullahs are to blame then that should tell you where their allegiances lie. Iraq also invaded Iran, not the other way around.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Turkeys Airforce and Navy would likely take Iran's air defences and communications apart in short order.

Turkey and Azerbaijan will attack you before they ever think of attacking us, but I appreciate your concern.