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  • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    You'd think they would have been gearing to loot the Crown J3wels by now.
    The British actually stole those from India.
    India demands return of Koh i Noor diamond
    The Indian government has demanded the return of the "cursed" Koh i Noor diamond, a symbol of imperial power and the inspiration for the Victorian author Wilkie Collins' The Moonstone.


    • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

      Originally posted by Persopolis View Post
      The British actually stole those from India.
      India demands return of Koh i Noor diamond
      Not to mention the ones they looted from Africa (what don't they loot from Africa?)

      Largest gem diamond ever discovered. It weighed about 3,106 carats in rough form when it was found in 1905 at the Premier mine in Transvaal, South Africa. Named for Sir Thomas Cullinan, who had discovered the mine, the colourless stone was purchased by the Transvaal government and presented to Britain's King Edward VII. It was cut into 9 large stones and about 100 smaller ones, all flawless; they are now part of the British crown j3wels.

      Don't go to Africa though... all it has to offer is poor starving people and AIDS
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X


      • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

        From 2 Years Ago - But Noteworthy (Everything that takes place between the regional actors impacts on our relations):

        Iran, Russia conduct naval exercise
        Published: July 30, 2009 at 7:56 PM
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        TEHRAN, July 30 (UPI) -- Iran and Russian launched their first-ever joint maritime operations in the Caspian Sea touted as part of an effort to enhance security in the region.

        The joint operation was launched from the northern Iranian port city of Bandar Anzali under the slogan of "clean and secure Caspian Sea depends on regional interaction," reports the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting network.

        Ali Taher Abadi, the managing director of the Ports and Navigation Organization in Iran, said the operation included measures to stem environmental pollution in the Caspian Sea.

        Lawmakers with an environmental party in Azerbaijan complained recently that activity related to the energy sector in the Caspian Sea was creating financial difficulties as a result of environmental pollution.

        Read more:


        Russia’s New Policy Shift on Iran’s Nuclear Issue

        Russian president last week remarked that there is no proof that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons. His statement unsurprisingly did not receive due coverage by the mainstream media, notes Abolghasem Bayyenat.

        Middle East Online

        Russian officials have made a series of statements on Iran’s nuclear program over the past several weeks which highlight a significant shift in their balancing position between Iran and the West. The most recent statement to that end was made by Russian president Dmitry Medvedev last week at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. In a statement countering the dominant conception of Iran’s nuclear program in the West, Medvedev remarked that there is no proof that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons. This statement came a few days after President Medvedev held a telephone conversation with his Iranian counterpart, discussing bilateral relations and Iran’s nuclear program and after Iran’s Vienna-based envoy to the IAEA, Ali Asghar Soltanieh, traveled to Moscow in mid January to hold talks with Russian policy-makers over Iran’s nuclear program.

        As in the case of similar statements challenging the conventional attitude of the Western political elites toward Iran’s nuclear program, Medvedev’s recent statement unsurprisingly did not receive due coverage by the mainstream Western media, and those few Western media which covered this story only reflected those parts of his statements which emphasized that Iran should cooperate with the international community in resolving doubts regarding its nuclear program. The censorship of Medvedev’s recent statement by the mainstream Western media does not of course detract from the importance of Russia’s new position on Iran’s nuclear issue.

        Medvedev’s recent statement on Iran’s nuclear issue is not the only evidence pointing to a shift in Russia’s balancing act between Iran and the West. Other lower Russian officials have also made similar statements with the same effect regarding Iran’s nuclear issue over the past several weeks. The recent warm-up in Russia-Iran relations follows a period of tensions between the two countries which emerged after Russia, under pressure from Israel and the Unites States, reneged on its commitment to deliver S-300 surface to air missile system to Iran and after it joined the Western powers in voting for another round of Security Council sanctions against Iran in June 2010.

        Monday, April 4, 2011
        Hamas said to deploy SAMs from Iran, China, world news, geopolitics, intelligence, WorldTribune, foreign policy, China, Russia, Iran, Israel, Middle East, Japan, Korea, Iraq, security, terrorism

        Military sources said Hamas was believed to have acquired and deployed several SAM systems developed in China and Iran. They said these systems could threaten any Israeli fixed- or rotary-wing aircraft over the Gaza Strip.
        "Today, Hamas has developed a credible threat to our aircraft," a senior military officer said
        Last edited by Persopolis; 04-07-2011, 05:31 PM.


        • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

          Originally posted by Persopolis View Post
          The British actually stole those from India.
          India demands return of Koh i Noor diamond

          Koh i Noor diamond was taken a "spoil of war", so technically it was looted rather than stolen.

          Either way it became part of the British Crown xxxels when Queen Victoria was proclaimed Empress of India in 1877. So short of the Indians breaking into the tower of London. I don't see them ever getting it back.

          British Museum has the Cyrus Cylinder and the Louvre in France seemingly have a collection of ancient Persian artefacts. It also seems that British Museum loaned Iran the Cyrus Cylinder. After receiving assurances from Iran that they would get it back.

          The Cyrus Cylinder is an ancient Persian clay cylinder, now broken into several fragments, on which is written a declaration in Akkadian cuneiform script[2] in the name of the Achaemenid Persian king Cyrus the Great. It dates from the 6th century BC and was discovered in the ruins of Babylon in Mesopotamia (now Iraq) in 1879. It is in the possession of the British Museum, which sponsored the expedition that discovered the Cylinder. The Cylinder was created following the Persian conquest of Babylon in 539 BC, when the Persian army under Cyrus the Great invaded and conquered the Neo-Babylonian Empire, bringing it under the control of the Persian Empire.

          Translation of the Cyrus Cylinder
          The Cyrus cylinder: clay cylinder; a Babylonian account of the conquest of Babylon by Cyrus in 539 BC, of his restoration to various temples of statues removed by Nabonidus, the previous king of Babylon, and of his own work at Babylon. The cylindrical form is typical of royal inscriptions of the Late Babylonian period, and the text shows that the cylinder was written to be buried in the foundations of the city wall of Babylon. It was deposited there after the capture of the city by Cyrus in 539 BC, and presumably written on his orders. The text is incomplete. It is written in Babylonian script and language and records that Nabonidus, the last King of Babylon (555-539 BC), had perverted the cults of the Babylonian gods, including Marduk, the city-god of Babylon, and had imposed labour-service on its free population, who complained to the gods. The gods responded by deserting Babylon, but Marduk looked around for a champion to restore the old ways. He chose Cyrus, King of Anshan (Persia), and declared him king of the world. First Cyrus expanded his kingship over the tribes of Iran (described as Gutians and Ummanmanda), ruling them justly. Then Marduk ordered Cyrus to march on Babylon, which he entered without a fight. Nabonidus was delivered into his hands and the people of Babylon joyfully accepted the kingship of Cyrus. From this point on, the document is written as if Cyrus himself is speaking: 'I, Cyrus, king of the world ...'.He presents himself as a worshipper of Marduk who strove for peace in Babylon and abolished the labour-service of its population. The people of neighbouring countries brought tribute to Babylon, and Cyrus claims to have restored their temples and religious cults, and to have returned their previously deported gods and people. The text ends with a note of additional food offerings in the temples of Babylon and an account of the rebuilding of Imgur-Enlil, the city wall of Babylon, during the course of which an earlier building inscription of Ashurbanipal, King of Assyria (668-627 BC), was found.


          • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

            Battle of the Persian-Armenian Singers
            This is too funny: Carlo or Andy? Vote Now! (Lucin, your vote counts double.)

            READ MORE / PHOTO:

            By Reed Johnson

            Los Angeles Times
            Iranian-born singer Andy Madadian, “the Persian Elvis.”

            Watching the impassioned crowds surge through the tense streets of Tehran, Iran’s capital city, pop singer Andy Madadian wanted to take action. But how?

            An Armenian native of Iran who has lived for three decades in Los Angeles, Madadian avoids direct involvement in his homeland’s politics. But as Iran was plunged into crisis last month by a fiercely disputed presidential election, the man known as “the Persian Elvis” wanted to send a musical message of sympathy and support to his countrymen.

            * * *

            Carlo Venti - The "Persian-Armenian Elvis" #1

            Andy Madadian, “the Persian-Armenian Elvis.” #2

            Note: For any dumb kids that don't get it because they grew up on the hand-me-down history books of Joseph Stalin - you are related to Iranians. It doesn't mean abandoning Armenian identity or nationalism. Just think of it as being from two places: Armenia & Iran (Persia); you can be from Glendale and California, if that helps you to understand. By the way, it's also one of the reasons you are entitled to Artsakh, and Aliyev isn't.
            Last edited by Persopolis; 04-07-2011, 09:54 PM.


            • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

              Interesting weblog I found of an Armenian's family history and photos (because these are his personal photos, I didn't feel it right to copy them here).

              Here's a quote and the link to the photos:

              "My Persian (Iranian) cousins Bijan, Eskandar, and Dariush Bakhtiar visiting my parents in 1973 or so. Their Armenian mother Stella was the daughter of my maternal grandfather's sister Margaret, i.e., Stella was one of my mom's1st cousins."

              Want to see what Armenians looked like centuries before the birth of Jesus?
              Last edited by Persopolis; 04-07-2011, 09:42 PM.


              • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                Andy (Պարսկահայ) in Armenia: Andy is being guarded by Armenian commandos. Here's an idea: Build really big speakers and blast Andy's music into Baku.

                Armenia Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

                The Memorandum of Understanding of the 9th session of Iran-Armenia intergovernmental joint commission held on January 27, 2010 in Yerevan indicated the arrangements in the fields of trade and economic relations, banking affairs, transport and communication, agruculture, healthcare and etc. At present Iran-Armenia intergovernmental commission has a serious role in arrangement of Iran-Armenia economic relations.
                Relations between the ministries and other state structures of the Republic of Armenia and the Islamic Republic of Iran are coordinated by tens of intergovernmental and interdepartmental documents. There is a frequent exchange of visits at different levels.
                Last edited by Persopolis; 04-07-2011, 10:09 PM.


                • Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

                  Originally posted by Persopolis View Post
                  I appreciate that and respect you for it. My beef isn't with you.

                  Nevertheless, because Armenians are small in numbers, if Armenian hostility towards Iran (no matter how slight) is not curbed internally (by Armenians), it poses great risks to the survival of Armenia.
                  There is no hostility against Iran by Armenians.......there are however some constructive criticism among us (not here in this forum).

                  Armenians survival has always been in hands of the Armenians. Old friends will not be forgotten that easily and Iranians should know that we the Armenians do not backstab our ancient friend, in fact we are the only real friends Iran has.
                  B0zkurt Hunter


                  • Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                    Iran invaded Iraq: Iran had, over the course of several decades, annexed numerous bits of Iraqi territory, most of it economically unimportant but some of it very important since it had access to oil reserves. The tensions between Iran and Iraq had this illegal annexing of land belonging to Iraq at its core, the post-revolution attempts by the Iranians to export their ideology into Iraq and topple its government just pushed things over the edge.
                    That is not true Bells....those disputed lands belong to Iran, including several oil reservoirs in Iraq and islands in Persian Gulf......freaking Arabs.
                    B0zkurt Hunter


                    • Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

                      Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                      There is no hostility against Iran by Armenians.
                      Our new Supreme Leader thanks you ....