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Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

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  • Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

    What do you think about Anti-Armenianism (racism against the Armenian people), is it benificial for our nation or the opposite? If we look at the jewish people, they have constantly hammered on the fact that (and learned their children) that they are hated and everybody wants to kill them, their anti-Semetic campaign (they can make every little thing anti-Semetic) is huge and millions are spent to keep te anti-Semitism ''alive'', by this way they tend to become more nationalistic.

    Armenians in Iran, Lebanon, Syria prospered because they were different than the muslims and were subject to certain parts of discrimination. The assimilation rate is very high for the Armenian diaspora now because there is no more ''discrimination'' and they live in so-called ''Christian'' nations.

    The racism in Russia is both positive and negative, ofcourse I regret the human lives that are being lost and am against the violence, but the Armenians realize suddenly that they are ''Armenians'' and not Russians and are beginning to help each other on numerous levels.

    The same for Azerbaijan, if they pretended they did not want war and were kind, Armenians probably would have believed them and be tricked again, as we did numerous times in history.

    Anti-Armenianism a good thing, yes or no?
    Last edited by Tigranakert; 08-10-2010, 11:39 AM.

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    Re: Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

    I saw a documentary where an Armenian boy was murdered by Russian skinheads for absolutely no reason other than being different.

    The director of the Human Rights Bureau, Alexander Brod, stated that surveys show xenophobia and other racist expressions are prevalent in 50 percent of Russians.
    The Russian National Unity Group (RNE), led by Alexander Barkashov, was founded in 1990 and claims to have members in 250 cities. The RNE adopted the swastika as its symbol, and sees itself as the avant-garde of a coming national revolution; it is critical of other major organizations of the far right, such as that of Vladimir Zhirinovsky. Historian Walter Laqueur calls the RNE far closer to the Nazi model than Zhirinovsky's party. The RNE publishes several news sheets, one of which, Russky poryadok, claims to have a circulation of 150,000. Full members of the RNE are called Soratnik (comrades in arms), and receive combat training at locations near Moscow; many earn a living as security officers and armed guards.
    -Laqueur, Walter, Fascism: Past, Present, Future, p. 189
    There are many skinhead killings every year in Russia, but there are many many many more beatings, most are not reported. I highly recommend Armenians stay out of Russia, it is extremely dangerous, a 9 year old Tajik girl was murdered and her father beaten by a group of teenage skinheads in Russia not too many years ago as well.

    I would suggest everyone read through these Wikipedia pages:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_...-Soviet_Russia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical...lism_in_Russia
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      Re: Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

      Originally posted by liberalof
      indians and armenians are both suffering from racism.. it exist in russia and USA.
      Yes, it's sad that this "Islamophobia" in the west is really just another name for "being racist against anyone who has a Middle-Eastern phenotype".
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        Re: Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

        Originally posted by Azar View Post
        Yes, it's sad that this "Islamophobia" in the west is really just another name for "being racist against anyone who has a Middle-Eastern phenotype".
        Yes it is so sad that we in the west don"t want the bountiful benefits of Islam, the pleasures of living in a society that executes clearly evil women for the ungodly crimes of letting themselves be raped, or burying them alive for committing obscene actions like walking around and looking at things. Oh, but of course, whenever some Muslim commits this or that attrocity or expresses this or that outrageous view, we are told by other Muslims and their apologists that "they are not true Muslims". I wonder where the only living "true Muslim" actually is?

        If you want to live in your dark hole, then go ahead, just don"t expect anyone but the insane to voluntarily join you, and don"t expect the world to meekly allow itself to be pushed into that hole.
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          Re: Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

          Originally posted by liberalof
          indians and armenians are both suffering from racism.. it exist in russia and USA.
          What has India to do with this? Its about people from Caucause + Tadjiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens who are mostly vistims in Russia by ''skinheads''. But if we look att killings of ''blacks'' in Russia most of them are people who had business with ''maffia''

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            Re: Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            Yes it is so sad that we in the west don"t want the bountiful benefits of Islam, the pleasures of living in a society that executes clearly evil women for the ungodly crimes of letting themselves be raped, or burying them alive for committing obscene actions like walking around and looking at things. Oh, but of course, whenever some Muslim commits this or that attrocity or expresses this or that outrageous view, we are told by other Muslims and their apologists that "they are not true Muslims". I wonder where the only living "true Muslim" actually is?

            If you want to live in your dark hole, then go ahead, just don"t expect anyone but the insane to voluntarily join you, and don"t expect the world to meekly allow itself to be pushed into that hole.
            Don't be racist. We're speaking about what are the consequences of racism, and you are clearly the example of what happens when it consumes a person. It is too easy to speak about things you can only see from the outside, without never even bothered to investigate it further.

            You are obviously a victim of media brainwashing and of your own prejudices. If you want to live in that dark hole of prejudice and senseless negative feelings towards other people who share different customs, culture and religion...you're lost then.

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              Re: Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

              Originally posted by ArmeniaR1 View Post
              What has India to do with this? Its about people from Caucause + Tadjiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens who are mostly vistims in Russia by ''skinheads''. But if we look att killings of ''blacks'' in Russia most of them are people who had business with ''maffia''
              Actually, most if not all of the killings were done to completely innocent men, women, and children.

              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              Yes it is so sad that we in the west don"t want the bountiful benefits of Islam, the pleasures of living in a society that executes clearly evil women for the ungodly crimes of letting themselves be raped, or burying them alive for committing obscene actions like walking around and looking at things. Oh, but of course, whenever some Muslim commits this or that attrocity or expresses this or that outrageous view, we are told by other Muslims and their apologists that "they are not true Muslims". I wonder where the only living "true Muslim" actually is?

              If you want to live in your dark hole, then go ahead, just don"t expect anyone but the insane to voluntarily join you, and don"t expect the world to meekly allow itself to be pushed into that hole.
              I'm not Islamic and don't agree with Islamophobia in the same way I don't agree with any fear/hatred of Christianity or Judaism.
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                Re: Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

                Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
                You are obviously a victim of media brainwashing and of your own prejudices. If you want to live in that dark hole of prejudice and senseless negative feelings towards other people who share different customs, culture and religion...you're lost then.
                The classic argument used by these right-wing propagandists is that the Orient and the Occident are so radically different that they can't coexist together, when you guys as Armenians know very well they can coexist perfectly.

                Don't buy into this whole "Islam is evil" propaganda guys, it's just the new scapegoat used by hateful xenophobes. Love all cultural and religions differences and embrace them.

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                  Re: Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

                  In Europe there's an anti-Islam movement because it is being flooded with Muslim immigrants who refuse to integrate, and barely know the language and thus only interact in their own communities. They also have many children, thus creating a big demographic problem. Not to mention, you have extremists among them who in the process participate in terrorist activities.

                  I personally have a problem with the Muslim countries which merge government with religious law (like Iran, Saudi Arabia). Every country in the world should be secular with division in government and religion. A theocratic country is a backwards one.
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                    Re: Racism (Anti-Armenianism); a good thing?

                    Originally posted by Mos View Post
                    In Europe there's an anti-Islam movement because it is being flooded with Muslim immigrants who refuse to integrate, and barely know the language and thus only interact in their own communities. They also have many children, thus creating a big demographic problem. Not to mention, you have extremists among them who in the process participate in terrorist activities.

                    I personally have a problem with the Muslim countries which merge government with religious law (like Iran, Saudi Arabia). Every country in the world should be secular with division in government and religion. A theocratic country is a backwards one.
                    I agree with secularism 110%, but I don't agree with this anti-Islam movement. The reality is that the majority of Muslims are great people, the reason why European countries have problems with Muslims isn't because they're Muslims, it's because they usually tend to import refugees and lower class immigrants.
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