Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[Mos]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

I sympathise that they lost the mountains they roamed in....I live in mountains, nothing like mountains, like Mt Ararat....how did you get trusting Kurds out of my posts? your funny.

More Turks and Kurds at each others throats....the better for Armenia.

yes let them destroy each other, why should we pick a side?

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

@ Kurdman
Are not the Medes the Ancestors of the Kurds? If so, then why is it mentioned in History that Armenia was conquered by the Kingdom of Media, which ruled it until 549 B.C...? Does not that make you wonder that it was Armenian land before it was considered Kurdish land?

No the medes were not Kurds... just a part of our history.. you need to understand that there are over 20 Kurdish dialects, some are very different that they could pass for different languages! the medes where European migrants that conquered the local people of the area they conquered, and so mixing began... so our ancestors were living there before the Europeans conquered them and forced the European language on them...

Look at DNA results of southern Kurds:

17% I1 (Pre-Germanic Nordic)
11.5% R1a (Balto-Slavic, Mycenaean greek)
17% R1b (Italic, celtic, Germanic)
28.5% J2 (Mesopotamian, minoan greek
11.5% J1 (Semite: Arabs, xxxs)

Rest = other.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

As you can see, we have around 35% European DNA and 40% J which is native middle eastern! infact we have 29% J2 which is native Mesopotamian which is southern Kurdistan DNA, so you see just becuase our name has changed alot with time it does not mean we just appeared out of nowhere.

Kurds in the north has some different DNA, infact the only similarities (major similarities) between Kurds in the south and Kurds in the north is their European DNA, otherwise Kurds in the north have more Anatolian DNA, while we have Mesopotamia, what that basically suggests is that the local people were conquered by Europeans... non the less we are indigenous to the regions we live in.

[Boris]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

@ Kurdman
Are not the Medes the Ancestors of the Kurds? If so, then why is it mentioned in History that Armenia was conquered by the Kingdom of Media, which ruled it until 549 B.C...? Does not that make you wonder that it was Armenian land before it was considered Kurdish land?

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Do you sympathise with them for the fact that they were instrumental in massacring Armenians? They betrayed their Armenian neighbours for some blood money fit for a dog, and just because we have common enemies right now, doesn't mean we should trust them, since given their history of betrayal, wouldn't be surprised if they stab you in the back right after they use you.

I sympathise that they lost the mountains they roamed in....I live in mountains, nothing like mountains, like Mt Ararat....how did you get trusting Kurds out of my posts? your funny.

More Turks and Kurds at each others throats....the better for Armenia.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

I've been going through your 'Liberation of western Armenia' thread and it seems like you believe that you will magically be able to take over even though Kurds are the clear majority, and you seem to disregard us with 'they are not organized'

Even if Kurds in the north are not organized, we in the south are very organized, and if you think we will give up the north....well... your in for a surprise.

You think your smarter than us? I laugh at you.. we have great minds in our government.

Dlawer Ala'Aldeen (1960-) دلاوهxر عبدالعزيز علاءالدين, MD, PhD, FRCPath, is the Minister of Higher Education and Scientific Research,[1] Kurdistan Regional Government, Iraq. He is also Professor of Clinical Microbiology and Head of the Molecular Bacteriology and Immunology Group (Division of Microbiology & Infectious Diseases) at University of Nottingham (Nottingham, UK). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dlawer_Ala%27Aldeen)

Professor Karim Yassen discovered the enzyme that has been named Karilysin in his honor after six months research in a university in Poland. He now lives in Kurdistan, teaching in university. (http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles...dsworld457.htm)

Just a couple examples... we also have an american university, with american lecturers teaching our future politicians! there are tens of Kurds all over Europeans governments including Britain.

According to the US embassy the Kurdish leaders are smart leaders. 'Kurdish leaders such
as Talabani and Barzani will likely exploit their political strength among
Shia/Sunni counterparts to protect and expand Kurdish influence in a future
government,' the report notes.

http://humanitariannews.org/20101130/wikileaks-our-kurds

And guess what? they were right! the fools in baghdad could not agree on anything, they held meetings in Tehran and Ankara, they all failed... untill!

Iraq's rival political leaders are meeting in the northern Kurdish city of Irbil in an attempt to agree on a power-sharing arrangement that would end an eight-month power vacuum in the country.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Iraqi-Political-Leaders-Meet-But-Political-Deadlock-Remains-106878764.html

We in the south are also working on unifying all the dialects into one language, we have also finally invited kurdish parties from all over Kurdistan for talks:

The President expressed his support for holding a conference on Kurdistan, adding that the main message of such a conference should be one of peace, dialogue, and peaceful co-existence between Kurds and other peoples. The conference is planned for later this year and will include representatives of all political parties and organizations from all over Kurdistan.

http://www.peyamner.com/details.aspx?l=4&id=235155

The discussion of unification of the Kurdish language, another focus of the meeting, and in this regard, President Barzani said that one of the priorities of the sovereignty is to unite the Kurdish language and work continuously.

At the conclusion of this meeting, President Barzani said that he would do all his efforts with the government to resolve the problems and obstacles to the Writers Union on the Kurds.

KRP

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... KipOyUnoSA

[Mos]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

I actually sympathize with the Kurds......those bastards took your mountains away and I know how one can become "one with mountain".

and now, they have turned Kurd into a tool yet again, to be used and later discarded….yet again......
keep that Kurdish flag up with honour in Northern Iraq.

Do you sympathise with them for the fact that they were instrumental in massacring Armenians? They betrayed their Armenian neighbours for some blood money fit for a dog, and just because we have common enemies right now, doesn't mean we should trust them, since given their history of betrayal, wouldn't be surprised if they stab you in the back right after they use you.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

I actually sympathize with the Kurds......those bastards took your mountains away and I know how one can become "one with mountain".

and now, they have turned Kurd into a tool yet again, to be used and later discarded….yet again......
keep that Kurdish flag up with honour in Northern Iraq.

Let me break it down to you:-

Turkey statements:

2003: Tribal leaders in north Iraq
2005: Kirkuk will remain Iraqi, we will declare war to defend the Turkmen.
2007-8: Turkish invasion, lasted one week and shamefully withdrawn.
2009: Turkish consulate opened, Turkish leaders thank Kurdish leaders for their diplomacy in Iraq.
2010: Kurdish leaders visit Turkey and state Kirkuk is a Kurdish city in Turkey! (note 2005)
2011: Erdogen the Turkish PM visits Kurdistan and stands behind the Kurdish flag, he also forces Turkmen in Kirkuk to work with Kurds, Erdogen calls on the Kurdish president to help the divided Sunni and Arab shia.

You see, kid, people have been making speculations and predictions since 2003, and what happened? Kurdish power has just been increasing

Meanwhile Kurdish investers invest in Kurdish cities in Iran and Turkey for example:

$200 million of Iraqi investments in Urfa/Turkey (http://aknews.com/en/aknews/2/244594/)

Kurdish investors also heavily invested in Arab Iraq:

(Reuters) - Iraq's Electricity Ministry said on Wednesday it had shortlisted two private Kurdish-owned companies to build and operate a power plant costing up to $1 billion in Iraq's southern Basra province. (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/0...7351DN20110406)

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

I actually sympathize with the Kurds......those bastards took your mountains away and I know how one can become "one with mountain".

and now, they have turned Kurd into a tool yet again, to be used and later discarded….yet again......
keep that Kurdish flag up with honour in Northern Iraq.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Shows Kurdish trend.....if I were you I would cover my balls and tighten up my butt cheeks from whats comming.

Yeah, genius and what's that? enlighten me.

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Shows Kurdish trend.....if I were you I would cover my balls and tighten up my butt cheeks from whats comming.