How likely are the Kurds in Northern Iraq to officially get their own state? They are defacto self governing. Many have said that Kurdish independece is inevitable. How do you see the emergence of a Kurdish state in Northern Iraq as far as Armenia's interests are concerned? Would it be another enemy on Turkey's doorstep, in addition to Armenia and Greece? I consider the Kurdish issue a vital one in weakening the position of Turkey. What are your thoughts?
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Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia
I don't think we should trust the Kurds. They killed more Armenians than the Turks did during the Genocide, and betrayed their Armenian neighbours. Sure, now they are against Turkey, but we should never forget how they helped the Turks in the early 1900s.Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia
Originally posted by Mos View PostI don't think we should trust the Kurds. They killed more Armenians than the Turks did during the Genocide, and betrayed their Armenian neighbours. Sure, now they are against Turkey, but we should never forget how they helped the Turks in the early 1900s.
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Kurds can have a state in Northern Iraq as long as they give up on their claims on historic Armenian lands currently occupied by Turkey.........with that said, Kurds in Iraq are already collaborating with Turkey with a new consulate, not to mention they continue in being used as a tool by the West and will again be left out to dry.
Many Iraqi officials in Bagdad are Kurds.B0zkurt Hunter
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Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia
Kurdistan is ready to declare independence at any moment, however while an 'Independence' Kurdistan will be on maps, it will still be 'dependent' on others, as it will be landlocked therefore it is not yet the time to do so.
We have an army of 375,000 men, also we control high Iraqi posts such as the Presidency and foreign ministry, hence our situation is much better than most 'Independent' countries.
P.S: I don't know what you mean by dropping claims on 'Armenian Land' as we have no claims on Yerevan
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Originally posted by kurdman View PostKurdistan is ready to declare independence at any moment, however while an 'Independence' Kurdistan will be on maps, it will still be 'dependent' on others, as it will be landlocked therefore it is not yet the time to do so.
We have an army of 375,000 men, also we control high Iraqi posts such as the Presidency and foreign ministry, hence our situation is much better than most 'Independent' countries.
P.S: I don't know what you mean by dropping claims on 'Armenian Land' as we have no claims on Yerevan
Tell me more about the Kurds' Armed forces. what is the population of iraqi kurdistan?
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The Kurdish army or peshmerga currently has 200,000 regular soldiers and 90,000 reserves and the rest are police, we spend 20% of our annual budget on the armed forces which is around $2-3 billion, however the Kurdish government is very secretive in regards to their military issues and not much is known, the only things that you'll see is their humvees and other American vehicles. There are 6-8 million Kurds in Iraq, but there are other pro-Kurd groups too.
As you correctly pointed out, Kurdistan has a lot of oil and gas, so far we've found 45 billion barrels of oil and 300 TCF of gas, and that is excluding Kirkuk.
In regards to the torks, they have an anti-Kurdish policy since america liberated Iraq, and they practiced that policy via the Turkmen front, however their policy failed miserably time and time again, and we the Kurds won and kept gaining more and more power, until the Turks realized that they can not counter us, they have gone from saying 'we will invade over Kirkuk to:-
BAGHDAD: Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is to visit Iraq and attempt to broker talks between ethnic Turkmen and Kurds over their rival claims to the oil-rich city of Kirkuk, a Turkmen politician said yesterday.
Turkey is pressuring us to narrow our differences with the Kurds" over Kirkuk, said Saadeddin Arkij, head of Iraq's Turkmen Front, the largest political party representing the country's Turkmen minority.
The torks are also afraid of the fact that we have influence over the BDP and can get them to organize an uprising or mass protests with in a day. Things are going well for Kurds now, the region is going through alot of problems for example, Syria is on the verge of collapse, Iran is under heavy sanctions and the divisions between secular and conservative Turks is growing.
P.S: I'm aware that you guys promote 'Yezid' nationalism in Armenia and I think that your making a big mistake.Last edited by kurdman; 06-03-2011, 04:19 PM.
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Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia
Originally posted by Artsakh View PostLike Armenia, Iraqi Kurdistan is landlocked, but unlike Armenia, Kurdistan has lots of oil.Last edited by bell-the-cat; 06-03-2011, 05:45 PM.Plenipotentiary meow!
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Originally posted by kurdman View PostP.S: I'm aware that you guys promote 'Yezid' nationalism in Armenia and I think that your making a big mistake.Last edited by bell-the-cat; 06-03-2011, 05:51 PM.Plenipotentiary meow!
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Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia
Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post"Kurdistan" has no oil to speak of - though, given that any place in the world seems to become "Kurdistan" when Kurds murder or expell or outnumber the previous population, then that sort of artificially expanded "Kurdistan" could indeed have oil.
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