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  • londontsi
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  • londontsi
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    Originally posted by Artashes View Post
    Big mistake having any turks or kurds build villages and schools on what remains of our ancient lands .
    Their children will say : we have lived here all our lives . Their parents will teach them that Yerevan is really erivan ... And the kurds will say : I pooped here , this is my ancestral land .
    The money is the carrot , it's a bait and switch . Please don't be fooled on this one . Smoke and mirrors all the way .
    Artashes

    It is not a mistake since it is done deliberately.

    You need to see the decision maker’s vision to understand what I am saying.
    You should also see what is the chain of command.
    Also how much the people, the ordinary folk matter.

    The president appoints the marzbeds ( governor of the region) .
    Their power of decision making is absolute, like little princes.
    The present governor is Surik Khachatrian appointed by the current President.


    Some highlights of his record include.

    He has given public land to the local mining company for exploitation.
    The mining company is frequently accused of not paying (enough) taxes.

    He has decided to raise to the ground villages to make way for the mining company.

    He is a violent person if any body opposes him or his interests.
    An Armenian businesswoman claimed on Tuesday to have been assaulted by a regional governor notorious for reportedly violent conduct just days after accusing him of corruption and business-related fraud.


    Look at him punching the bussineswoman
    This video combines two sources of footage: 1) a news report from November 15, 2011, where Silva Hambardzumyan, a businesswoman, tells the journalist the det...


    AND NOW “leasing” this land ( more like territory) for grazing and occupation by the toorks.

    Despite all the natural wealth extracted locally Syunik province is classified as the poorest region of Armenia.

    When people say Armenians will not graze sheep, the statement is ridicules.
    Perhaps they will not graze sheep without improvement in their quality of life.
    The reason being the people above will be skimming too much of their results of their effort.
    Last edited by londontsi; 02-20-2013, 02:10 AM.

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  • Artashes
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    Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
    Vahram Sirelis,
    The deal negociated by LISKA is limpid.
    It says: 2,5 Million USD a year....
    Or in detail: 25 USD/hectar in the beginning, for the rent of 50.000 hectars: that is only 1.250.000 USD
    It is possible, that they will go to 100.000 hectars, that is 2.5 million

    What are we talking about?
    They will not ask us to keep, breed, and purchase sheep...
    They want us to give them our land virtually for free, so that they can produce and export..; so you billions are for them.
    We will only get 2.5 Million at best (!), plus the Turkish nomads on the back of our troops today... and something like 100 tatar/turk/kurd villages with their mosques, in a decade...
    Just like in 30-s... You had more than 100 tatar villages in Zankezur.
    Don't you remember??
    Why do you not look at it straight, like it is???
    Big mistake having any turks or kurds build villages and schools on what remains of our ancient lands .
    Their children will say : we have lived here all our lives . Their parents will teach them that Yerevan is really erivan ... And the kurds will say : I pooped here , this is my ancestral land .
    The money is the carrot , it's a bait and switch . Please don't be fooled on this one . Smoke and mirrors all the way .
    Artashes

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  • Vrej1915
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    Հայաստանից ընկույզի տեսակների արտահանումն աճի միտում ունի

    11:14, 16 Փետրվար, 2013
    ԵՐԵՎԱՆ, 15 ՓԵՏՐՎԱՐԻ, ԱՐՄԵՆՊՐԵՍ: Հանրապետությունից ընկույզի տեսակների արտահանումը գնալով մեծ թափ է ստանում: Ինչպես «Արմենպրես»-ին տեղեկացնում են ՀՀ կառավարությանն առընթեր պետեկամուտների կոմիտեից, 2012 թվականին ընկույզի արտահանման ծավալները շուրջ 80 անգամ գերազանցել են 2011թ-ի ծավալները. 2011թ-ին Հայաստանից արտաքին շուկա է հանվել 123 կգ ընկույզ: Արտահանված ընկույզի ընդհանուր արժեքը 2011թ-ին կազմել է շուրջ 2 հազար դոլար, իսկ նախորդ տարի գերազանցել է 50 հազար դոլարը:

    Ընկույզն իր տեսակներով առաջին անգամ Հայաստանից եվրոպական շուկա է արտահանվել 2011-ին, մինչ այդ մասնագետները տեսել են միայն դրա պոտենցիալը: Արդեն մեկ տարի անց այդ ցուցանիշերն ավելացել են:

    Հայաստանից գյուղմթերքը, նաեւ ընկույզն արտահանվում է ԱՄՆ, ԱՊՀ և եվրոպական մի քանի երկրներ:

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  • Vrej1915
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    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Glughs tarar 40 taria khorovatsem sarkum hima esi endz bana uzum sovoratsni.
    Ay Khelok,
    Khoske Khorovadzi massin tche.
    (Tegouz tranoum el asselou pan ga ..... )

    Gam kez echi degh yess tnoum, gam gartatzadzet chess hasganoum.
    Intch a nchanagoum kordzarke Barsgasdani hed a?
    Tchkidess te ovker yen linelou hovivnere? Khabar tchess ov a pnagvoum dvyal daradzkoum?
    Enhanrabess ed darazkneroum yeghel yess?
    Badmoutioun kidess?
    Zankeroutzou hed hadz gissadz gass gyankoum?
    Keghvatzori deghe kidess?

    Tvoum e yerekha yess, paytz vor assoum ess 40 dari Khorovadz ess anoum, ouremen bidza mart bedk e liness...
    Et vontz tarav etkan pan tchkidess?

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  • Haykakan
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    Glughs tarar 40 taria khorovatsem sarkum hima esi endz bana uzum sovoratsni.
    Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
    Statating what you said, means you have no idea about what you talk about...;
    I suggest you take the pain, and do read about the subject, before making irrelevant comments...

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  • Vrej1915
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    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Khorovats means cooked on open fire(more accurately the remnents of it) thus it can apply to any meat,fish or even veggies. I personaly favor lamb over pork but both are very tasty. Telling someone they dont know what they are talking about means nothing, its senseless babble.
    Statating what you said, means you have no idea about what you talk about...;
    I suggest you take the pain, and do read about the subject, before making irrelevant comments...

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  • Haykakan
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    Khorovats means cooked on open fire(more accurately the remnents of it) thus it can apply to any meat,fish or even veggies. I personaly favor lamb over pork but both are very tasty. Telling someone they dont know what they are talking about means nothing, its senseless babble.
    Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
    My dear,
    You have no idea what you are talking about....

    By he way, generally khorovadz is made of Pig meat...

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  • Vrej1915
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    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    All this feels like dajavu. Remember how everyone was saying that opening the blue mosque would mean Armenia being overrrun by muslims. People here seem to forget that since we are almost surrounded by muslims it is only logical that we must do business and intermingle with them. The deal is with Iran and Armenia not with Turky not with Azerbadjan. Once the lease is up it is up to the armenian and iranian governments if they wish to renew it. If you did not want this to happen then you should have gone into sheep business and become a hoviv-but since neither you nor your friends want to do this but they sure want to eat sheep then please chill out and enjoy the khorovats made in Armenia before there is no sheep and no khorovats.
    My dear,
    You have no idea what you are talking about....

    By he way, generally khorovadz is made of Pig meat...

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  • Haykakan
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    All this feels like dajavu. Remember how everyone was saying that opening the blue mosque would mean Armenia being overrrun by muslims. People here seem to forget that since we are almost surrounded by muslims it is only logical that we must do business and intermingle with them. The deal is with Iran and Armenia not with Turky not with Azerbadjan. Once the lease is up it is up to the armenian and iranian governments if they wish to renew it. If you did not want this to happen then you should have gone into sheep business and become a hoviv-but since neither you nor your friends want to do this but they sure want to eat sheep then please chill out and enjoy the khorovats made in Armenia before there is no sheep and no khorovats.

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