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  • #31
    No, Demirchyan didn't win. The election was still rigged and undemocratic.

    The "peaceful" protesters were probably jobless men and women who still can not make ends meet, while Kocharian and all are buying new Benzes for the whole family. They were out there out of frustration, caused by the government's inactivity and indifference. And what was the government's answer? Beating them up.

    Yes, it is the transition from communism, and yes, it will take time. But let me tell you that it would go a lot faster if the ministers were not eating public funds, while the monthly pension is what? 3000 drams?

    The protestors had not attempted anything to my knowledge. Had they tried to take over, then restraining them would be reasonable, as this obviously does not have general public support. However, going in the crowd and indiscriminately beating up anybody in sight is wrong. And still no answer on your part about the beating of journalists...

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    • #32
      Anyway this thread, more than anything dealt with the cultura/ethnographical aspects of Armenian culture, and the gradual decay of it. The only solution for the long-term is for the bulk of the Armenians from the diaspora to return to Armenia but that won't happen, so...
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #33
        Alright then, go read a1plus.am.


        AR
        Enger, A1+ is the biggest sh_t rag on the planet, you know they had the nerve to call what happend yesterday a "massacre" now I was very insulted by that, what happed in Baku to Armenians was a massacre, what happed in Sumgait was a massacre!



        I read news from both sides, as well as from independant observers


        AR
        So do I and my nose is so trained I can sniff out propaganda in heartbeat..



        and attacking peaceful demonstrators and journalists is still not acceptable



        AR
        Is a coup acceptable?


        4,000 USD OFFERED FOR ORGANIZING ARMED PROVOCATION IN YEREVAN

        YEREVAN, APRIL 12. ARMINFO. Gevorg Mesrobyan and Artur Mangasarov were offered 4,000 USD for organizing an armed provocation during the opposition's procession to the presidential residence on April 12.

        According to the record of interrogation conducted by the RA Prosecutor General's office and demonstrated by Armenia's Public Television, the suspects were to shoot into the air to create panic among the demonstrators. The Investigation ascertained that the detainees, who has a cellular telephone, made four calls to the Parliament member of the "Justice" bloc Sambat Aivazyan. The detainees testifies that they met with Aivazyan after coming from Moscow on April 6. During the meeting they received two "Makarov" pistols. The detainees pointed out that they agreed to do that for money. The Investigation is currently specifying the version of attempt on the life of one of the rally organizers. In his earlier interview to ARMINFO Smbat Aivazyan stated that interrogation record is absurd and "does not correspond to the facts."

        Gevorg Mesrobyan and Artur Mangasarov have been charged with terrorism and unlawful possession of arms.

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        • #34
          I read about that. Did you read about the thugs the government had hired in order to create ruckus and throw eggs at Geghamian while he was making a speech?

          The reason why I read a1plus is because anything government-approved is always pro-government.

          The conclusion to which I have arrived is: Neither the government now nor the opposition are worthy of being in power. I am still waiting for the right alternative. Maybe Raffi Hovanissian in the 2008 elections....?

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          • #35
            No, Demirchyan didn't win. The election was still rigged and undemocratic.



            AR
            Now listen someone won, ok? If Dermichyan did`nt win than Kocharian won,
            if Kocharian did`nt win then Dirmichyan won, you can`t have it both ways..




            The "peaceful" protesters were probably jobless men and women who still can not make ends meet, while Kocharian and all are buying new Benzes for the whole family. They were out there out of frustration, caused by the government's inactivity and indifference. And what was the government's answer? Beating them up.



            AR
            4,000 USD OFFERED FOR ORGANIZING ARMED PROVOCATION IN YEREVAN

            YEREVAN, APRIL 12. ARMINFO. Gevorg Mesrobyan and Artur Mangasarov were offered 4,000 USD for organizing an armed provocation during the opposition's procession to the presidential residence on April 12.

            According to the record of interrogation conducted by the RA Prosecutor General's office and demonstrated by Armenia's Public Television, the suspects were to shoot into the air to create panic among the demonstrators. The Investigation ascertained that the detainees, who has a cellular telephone, made four calls to the Parliament member of the "Justice" bloc Sambat Aivazyan. The detainees testifies that they met with Aivazyan after coming from Moscow on April 6. During the meeting they received two "Makarov" pistols. The detainees pointed out that they agreed to do that for money. The Investigation is currently specifying the version of attempt on the life of one of the rally organizers. In his earlier interview to ARMINFO Smbat Aivazyan stated that interrogation record is absurd and "does not correspond to the facts."

            Gevorg Mesrobyan and Artur Mangasarov have been charged with terrorism and unlawful possession of arms.





            Yes, it is the transition from communism, and yes, it will take time. But let me tell you that it would go a lot faster if the ministers were not eating public funds, while the monthly pension is what? 3000 drams?



            AR
            I agree with you!



            The protestors had not attempted anything to my knowledge. Had they tried to take over, then restraining them would be reasonable, as this obviously does not have general public support. However, going in the crowd and indiscriminately beating up anybody in sight is wrong. And still no answer on your part about the beating of journalists...



            AR
            You break the law you get hurt we will protect the national security of Armenia... I condemn all attacks on Journalists, happy now?

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            • #36
              It appears that A.R. is a socialist.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #37
                They'd kill Raffi before he made it to the podium.
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by A.R.
                  happy now?
                  No. I'll only be happy when we have a good government.

                  And just because Kocharian won (which I believe he did) still doesn't mean that we have to forget about the vote-rigging.

                  As for "breaking the law, you will get hurt", the protestors' actions did not deserve such harsh reprisal.

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                  • #39
                    Protesting and ultimately overthrowing a government is the natural right of all peoples. People don't exist to serve the government, theoretically speaking. Governments were erected to supposedly serve the people.
                    Achkerov kute.

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                    • #40
                      .

                      Raffi Hovannessian in 2008



                      AR
                      No,no,no, he is from the old authorties of Armenia,how bout Vartan Oskanian or Vaan Ovanesyan? Oskanian is syrian born like my family HALAB but just because he is Syrian born don`t mean sh-it cause gabig LTP was also syrian born.
                      Last edited by xBaron Dants; 04-13-2004, 09:24 PM.

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