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  • #41
    Speaking of keeping threads civil, let's please keep this on-topic shall we? Thanks in advance.
    Achkerov kute.

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    • #42
      Come on people....I'm feeling like Kocharian here, censoring all of you.

      I don't know what has happened between you guys on other forums, and I don't really care. Stick to the topic. Neither Satanism nor Zionism was being discussed in this thread.

      As for Oskanian, I've been the biggest Oskanian supporter, and I think he would make a great president. I just don't see him running for it, and I also don't think he has enough popular support, which is too bad.

      I'd be very willing to have Raffi H. in government too.
      Last edited by xBaron Dants; 04-13-2004, 09:41 PM.

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      • #43
        Baron, thanks for the clean-up... sorry about that.. just wanted to make sure nothing of the name-calling happened here. anyway.

        Who is Raffi H.? Sorry, I've no idea... this is what I'm talking about. How am I supposed to know who he is? Is there a biography of him floating around or something?

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        • #44
          Raffi Hovanissian is the first Foreign Affairs Minister of Armenia. He is now the head of some sort of think tank. He is US born and raised, and seems to be the most trusted person when it comes to wiping out corruption. He was barred from running in the last elections because he did not have armenian citizenship for 10 years.

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          • #45
            His dads Richard Hovanessian of UCLA. ya

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            • #46
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              His dads Richard Hovanessian of UCLA. ya




              AR
              You dad is a great Armenian and he has done so much for the Armenian cause...

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              • #47
                Originally posted by dstyle
                His dads Richard Hovanessian of UCLA. ya
                Was my professor last quarter. Really an intelligent man. The pleasure was all mine.
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #48
                  While I agree the govt. needs to be changed, I don't see how those in the "Opposition" would not do the same as Kocharian is doing now.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by dstyle
                    While I agree the govt. needs to be changed, I don't see how those in the "Opposition" would not do the same as Kocharian is doing now.
                    Alright...here is Baron Dants's opinion, after having somewhat calmed down about what happened yesterday.

                    The opposition is a bloody joke.
                    They talk about corruption, but forget that Aram Sarkisian is one of the most corrupt men ever.
                    They talk about change, but refuse to show up to Parliament.
                    They talk about how the diaspora is only used as a milking cow, but they call Vartan Oskanian a foreigner.
                    They talk about how the whole population supports them, but they only gather 10-15 thousand at their MAIN protest.
                    They talk about honest elections, but Geghamian was actually claiming that HE was the rightful winner of the presidential elections (not even Demirchian) and how there would be bloodshed and a revolution if power was not granted to him.

                    What I was hoping was that these demonstrations would send Kocharian a wake-up call. I did not think the opposition had enough support nor credibility to actually force a change of government. And 10-15 000 also was not enough people. Heck, I didn't even want the opposition to succeed.
                    What I wanted was for Kocharian to realize that there are 10-15 THOUSAND people unhappy with him, and telling him that right in front of his face. I wanted the government to realize that the corruption was not going unnoticed, and that rigged elections, no matter who the rightful winner would have been, are not acceptable.

                    It didn't happen. Kocharian responded with violence. And he didn't do so to prevent a coup...there was going to be no coup, let's not kid ourselves. The crowd was neither big enough, nor violent.

                    I'm just waiting for 2008...

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                    • #50
                      Yes Vrouyr. Absolutely.

                      but here again is mr. oskanyan overeacting and talking big when he should be ashamed of what kocharian did.
                      http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=692583&PageNum=0



                      i have like you come to the realization that the opposition is only "looking for its chance at the feeding through" as Kim Iskanyan puts it. We need someone new. I personally like Baghdasarian. Young, popular, seems keen on defending democratic principles which i think he honestly believes in. I am looking forward to this guy becoming president in 2008 unless Kocharian somehow manages to change the constitution and declare himself supreme dictator of Armenia by that time. Lets hope he has no such intentions, lets hope he is cracking down because he feels threatened. Let us hope Armenia will progress to a working democracy and not turn into the next azerbaijan or god forbid even something like Turkmenistan.

                      We can only hope and pray right now. Everything is in Kocharian's hands. Lets hope he is not a fool, which i dont think he is.

                      btw. give this article a read everyone. http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle...0554DF12C.html

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