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  • Vako
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    126 HOLOCAUST SCHOLARS AFFIRM THE INCONTESTABLE FACT OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE AND URGE WESTERN DEMOCRACIES TO OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZE IT

    At the Thirtieth Anniversary of the Scholars’ Conference on the Holocaust and the Churches, convening at St. Joseph University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, March 3-7, 2000, one hundred twenty-six Holocaust scholars, holders of Academic Chairs and Directors of Holocaust Research and Studies Centers, participants in the conference, signed a statement affirming that the World War I Armenian Genocide is an incontestable historical fact and accordingly urge the governments of Western Democracies to recognize it as such. The petitioners, among whom is Nobel Laureate for Peace Elie Wiesel, who was the keynote speaker at the conference, also asked the Western Democracies to urge the Government and Parliament of Turkey to finally come to terms with a dark chapter of Ottoman-Turkish history and to recognize the Armenian Genocide. This would provide an invaluable impetus to the process of the democratization of Turkey.

    Below is a partial list of the signatories:

    Prof. Yehuda Bauer
    Distinguished Professor,
    Hebrew University,
    Director, The International
    Institute of Holocaust
    Research, Yad Vashem,
    Jerusalem

    Prof. Israel Charny, Director,
    Institute of the Holocaust and
    Genocide, Jerusalem,
    Professor of Hebrew University;
    Editor-in-Chief of The
    Encyclopedia of Genocide

    Prof. Ward Churchill,
    Ethnic Studies,
    The University of Colorado,
    Boulder

    Prof. Stephen Feinstein, Director
    Center for Holocaust and
    Genocide Studies,
    University of Minnesota

    Prof. Saul Friedman, Director,
    Holocaust and xxxish Studies,
    Youngstown State University,
    Ohio

    Prof. Edward Gaffney,
    Valparaiso University
    Law School

    Prof. Zev Garber,
    Los Angeles Valley College

    Prof. Dorota Glowacka,
    University of King’s College,
    Halifax, Nova Scotia

    Dr. Irving Greenberg, President,
    xxxish Life Network

    Prof. Herbert Hirsch,
    Virginia Commonwealth
    University

    Prof. Irving L. Horowitz,
    Hannah Arendt Distinguished
    Professor,Rutgers University, NJ

    Dr. Steven Jacobs, Rabbi,
    Temple Sinai Shalom,
    Huntsville, Alabama
    Associate Editor of The
    Encyclopedia of Genocide

    Prof. Steven Katz,
    Distinguished Professor,
    Director, Center for Judaic
    Studies,
    Boston University

    Prof. Richard Libowitz,
    Temple University

    Dr. Marcia Littell,
    Stockton College,
    Exec. Director, Scholars’
    Conference on the Holocaust and
    the Churches

    Franklin H. Littell,
    Distinguished Professor of
    Holocaust and Genocide Studies,
    Stockton College
    Co-founder, Annual Scholars’
    Conference on the Holocaust and
    the Churches

    Prof. Hubert G. Locke,
    Washington University,
    Co-founder, Annual Scholars’
    Conference on the Holocaust and
    the Churches

    Dr. Elizabeth Maxwell,
    Executive Director of the
    International Scholarly
    Conference on the Holocaust,
    London, England

    Prof. Erik Markusen,
    Southwest State University, MN

    Prof. Saul Mendlowitz,
    Dag Hammerskjold Distinguised
    Professor of International Law,
    Rutgers University

    Prof. Jack Needle, Director
    Center for Holocaust Studies,
    Brookdale Community College
    Lincroft, NJ

    Dr. Philip Rosen, Director,
    Holocaust Education
    Center of the Delaware
    Valley

    Prof. Alan S. Rosenbaum,
    Dept. of Philosophy,
    Cleveland State University

    Prof. Richard Rubinstein,
    President Emeritus, and
    Distinguished Professor of
    Religion,
    University of Bridgeport, CT

    William L. Shulman, President,
    Association of Holocaust
    Organizations,
    City University of New York

    Prof. Samuel Totten,
    The University of Arkansas,
    Assoc. Editor of
    The Encyclopedia
    of Genocide

    Prof. Elie Wiesel,
    Andrew W. Mellon Professor in
    the Humanities,
    Boston University;
    Founding Chairman of the United
    States Holocaust Memorial
    Council;
    Nobel Laureate for Peace



    I hereby declare that the originals of these 126 signatures are on file in my office.
    All affiliations supplied are for identification purposes only.
    Dr. Stephen Feinstein, Director,
    Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies, University of Minnesota


    AFFIRM THE INCONTESTABLE FACT OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE AND URGE WESTERN DEMOCRACIES TO OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZE IT

    126 HOLOCAUST SCHOLARS AFFIRM THE INCONTESTABLE FACT OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE AND URGE WESTERN DEMOCRACIES TO OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZE IT

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  • karoaper
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    Originally posted by bell-the-cat
    It is not a matter of accepting it - it is simply a matter of not denying it. These two things are entirely different. The Turkish parrots always rhyme off the usual 'but France does not admit committing genocide in Algeria' or similar rubish. Regardless of the historical accuracy of that statement, the French State does not give millions of dollars to groups to deny such allegations, or pay for the publication of countless books denying such allegations, or imprison or threaten to imprison (or worse) persons who make such allegations.
    That's actually a key point. No other country (except for Israel) has sustained such an expensive and subversive effort for so long to keep certain facts from reaching global media outlets and being accepted by governments and agencies.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by aconur
    Turkey have to accept Armenian Genocide
    It is not a matter of accepting it - it is simply a matter of not denying it. These two things are entirely different. The Turkish parrots always rhyme off the usual 'but France does not admit committing genocide in Algeria' or similar rubish. Regardless of the historical accuracy of that statement, the French State does not give millions of dollars to groups to deny such allegations, or pay for the publication of countless books denying such allegations, or imprison or threaten to imprison (or worse) persons who make such allegations.

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  • Armenian
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    Originally posted by aconur
    Turkey have to accept Armenian Genocide and Cyprus is a Greek island, i think president Erdogan ll accept it
    Oh, really?

    Rajab Tayyib Erdogan: It is a daydream to expect Turkey to recognize the alleged “Armenian genocide”

    “It is a daydream to expect Turkey to recognize the so-called Armenian genocide. We’ll not change our position regarding the alleged “Armenian genocide”. Let no one expect us to change our position,” Turkey’s Prime Minister Rajab Tayyib Erdogan said while commenting on the European Parliament’s today’s decision urging Turkey to recognize the alleged “Armenian genocide”

    Link: http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=13900
    The reality is we Armenians don't really want your recognition: http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=4648

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  • aconur
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    Turkey have to accept Armenian Genocide and Cyprus is a Greek island, i think president Erdogan ll accept it

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  • EMRE
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    Originally posted by Otto3
    for turning turkeys facce to east we must be very islamic.. i dont want that

    hey turning our face to east,doesnt mean to develop our relations with nasty anti-democratic,uncivilized arabs,I think In my perspective,If turkey decides to turn her face(as army general tuncer kilinc(former general secretary of national security council) said,we will develop our relations with IRAN and RUSSIA.In this way we can strengthen our position in EURASIA.and we can avert emperialistic plots which pave the way for disuniting and decreasing turkish political effect In this region and In middle east.

    in near future I hope It gonna happen...

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  • EMRE
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    Originally posted by Selpak
    Just check Turkey' independence war.

    And i think you refer to Turks when you are talking about Turkey. if it is so, Turks and Russians were close many times in history.

    Turkey won't join to EU. it is only Britain who wants Turkey in EU. Because they need Turkey for decreasing the influence of France and Germany in EU.

    Turkey became major energy road to Europe. it has been done by US for to break Russian energy cartel. So if Turkey can turn her face to east, it will be fantastic for Russia.



    I agree with you wholeheartedly...

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  • Otto3
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    for turning turkeys facce to east we must be very islamic.. i dont want that

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  • Selpak
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    Turkey has never in the history been close to Russia or Iran
    Just check Turkey' independence war.

    And i think you refer to Turks when you are talking about Turkey. if it is so, Turks and Russians were close many times in history.

    Turkey won't join to EU. it is only Britain who wants Turkey in EU. Because they need Turkey for decreasing the influence of France and Germany in EU.

    Turkey became major energy road to Europe. it has been done by US for to break Russian energy cartel. So if Turkey can turn her face to east, it will be fantastic for Russia.

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  • karoaper
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    Originally posted by Selpak
    lol.

    i believe Turkey won't be in EU. But it is not good for Armenia. We will see what we will be done when Turkey get more close to Russia and Iran...
    Turkey close to Russia or Iran? Hmm, considering Turkey has never in the history been close to Russia or Iran, it's quite a tall order. Only way I see Turkey and Iran getting closer is if there's a huge War fought between US/GB/Israel and the muslim world, and Turkey becomes an Islamic state and starts to oppose US and Israel. I certainly don't know about the first thing, consideringIsrael's and US's track record, but Turkey will forever be a confused/militaristic state dying to be a good lapdog for Washington and Tel-Aviv. Even in this Mid East conflict, a mere complaint that Turkey made to Israel for the crisis was seen as some dare-devil act. That should highlight what bedfellows the two are. Besides that Turkey has never been a Muslim state (in the true sense of the word), it has been an empirialistic nation bound on oppresing the original Muslims and Chtistians alike and it will continue to be just such a state.
    Last edited by karoaper; 08-09-2006, 04:34 PM.

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