Azeris in Iran

[Iranianazeri]

Re: Azeris in Iran

Hello IranianAzeri! I am an Armenian. I am very glad that you think that the Armenian Genocide was real (which it was), but what confuses me is that you say that Azeris aren't at all related to the Ottoman Turks, but I've always heard that Azeris claimed that they were part of the Turkish group. Could you please explain this?

Hello!

Turkic group is like saying indo-european group, do you understand how I mean? It's language mostly. Azeris are no mongols without doubt. I'm looking for a study that sows that azeris are caucasian peoples, very very similar to armenians and not anatolians. I will find it. Our forefathers are most likely for example local caucasian albanians, some armenians and other local peoples and secondly iranian and turk.

Look here:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/61/300px-Caucasus03.png

The turko-mongol language was spread by mongolian people originally from north of korea:

http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=world200bceqp9.png

Ottomans have historically been enemys, ironically. The azeris of caucasia and Iran, and the nation that they ruled, fought ottomans in wars. In wikipedia (and google it) I would recommend you to read about the safavid empire and about Nader Shah Afsharid who fought the Ottomans. Nader Shah was a great king that once and for all stopped the ottoman threat. Modern pan-turkism is racist nationalist nonsense which has nothing to do with reality. Ottomans where anatolian peoples and where sunnis. Azeris are caucasian turkic with zoroastrian culture. Zarathustra was caucasian iranian, and descendants of his people probably live in the iranian azerbaijanis since he came from iranian azerbaijan.

[Iranianazeri]

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This is the study that show we how closely related the cacausians are actually. Pan-turkism is weird racism, since it really isn't racism. If we wan't to be racists, then the armenian and azeris are much closer to eachother. Fortunately most of us aren't racists, just friends hopefully.

http://www.eva.mpg.de/genetics/pdf/Y-paper.pdf

[Armenian]

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Hello friends! I noticed this thread and since I'm an azeri from Iran i thought i could give my opinion, that may be interesting for some of you...

I understand what are saying and I basically agree with all you have stated. However, not all Azeris have your enlightened view of Armenians and world history in general. There is still a danger of Americans, Israelis and Turks manipulating the Azeri population of Iran and using them against Iran, Russia and Armenia. The manipulation is very real and so are the dangers associated with it. The following thread concerns the topic in question: http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=7158

[Էլիա]

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I understand what are saying and I basically agree with all you have stated. However, not all Azeris have your enlightened view of Armenians and world history in general. There is still a danger of Americans, Israelis and Turks manipulating the Azeri population of Iran and using them against Iran, Russia and Armenia. The manipulation is very real and so are the dangers associated with it. The following thread concerns the topic in question: http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=7158

The Turks try to manipulate everyone!

[Selpak]

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The Turks try to manipulate everyone!

Lol, some of the forum members try to manipulate everyone almost all post of the topic are just funny.

[Էլիա]

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Lol, some of the forum members try to manipulate everyone almost all post of the topic are just funny.

Yup, this forum gets crazy sometimes...

[Iranianazeri]

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I understand what are saying and I basically agree with all you have stated. However, not all Azeris have your enlightened view of Armenians and world history in general. There is still a danger of Americans, Israelis and Turks manipulating the Azeri population of Iran and using them against Iran, Russia and Armenia. The manipulation is very real and so are the dangers associated with it. The following thread concerns the topic in question: http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=7158

Which azeris do you mean? North (republic) or south?

The azeris of the indenpendent republic are generally pan-turkist due to influences from turkey. After they became independent they strived to create themselves an identity (which became the panturkist one) and the war with armenia worsened the relations and made them closer to turkey. Before that they didn't have anything to do with the ottoman turks.

However the azeris of iran are different. How much pan-turkism there are I don't know, but the relations with armenians are as usual good.

[Iranianazeri]

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The Turks try to manipulate everyone!

No they don't, at least I don't I can tell you fore sure. Are there iranian azeris that disagree with me?

The weird things seems to come from Oslonor. I have read some and it's really hilarious what his written

[Էլիա]

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No they don't, at least I don't I can tell you fore sure. Are there iranian azeris that disagree with me?

The weird things seems to come from Oslonor. I have read some and it's really hilarious what his written

I thought you said Azeris weren't Turks?

[Iranianazeri]

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I thought you said Azeris weren't Turks?

It depends how you mean. Alot of people call us turks, sometimes we too. Azeris aren't anatolian turks, but we are a turkic speaking people. If turk means anatolian, then, no we are not turks. If it means someone who speaks a turkic language, then yes. Panturks consider all turkic speaking peoples turks, from balkans to siberia. But our languages doesn't even have to bee similiar. It's the same kind of relationship the indo-europeans have, from norway to india ...