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    Peacekeepers Given Permission to Fight




    14th year for CIS forces in Abkhazia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku21HV4beGg

    The detainment of Russian peacekeepers by Georgian police in Abkhazia has complicated the situation in the conflict zone and relations between Moscow and Tbilisi. The Russian General Staff warned Georgian authorities yesterday that the Russian soldiers have the right to self-defense and the protection of their arms under a decision of the Council of Heads of State of the CIS and the mandate of the collective forces to support peace. It also warned that there may be “bloodshed” the next time there is an incident of that type. “And there is no doubt that the responsibility for these provocations and their consequences will lie completely with the Georgian side,” concluded First Deputy Chief of the General Staff Gen. Lieut. Alexander Burutin. The scandal has reached the highest levels. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili exchanged harsh words for the first time in connection with it.

    Georgia was quick to respond to the Russians. “The formulation of Burutin’s statements clearly shows that the so-called peacekeepers are a party in the conflict and their activity does not serve to settle the conflict,” said head of the Georgian Defense Ministry’s department of international affairs David Nardaya. “I call upon the higher leadership of the Russian Federation to control such statements made by officials and generals and I hope that the Russian leadership holds a different position from Burutin’s opinion.”

    The exchange between the countries’ militaries took place after the Russian and Georgian presidents discussed the incident in Abkhazia late Wednesday evening. It was clear from the press services of the leaders that they were unable to aright the situation. “In the discussion of the situation in the conflict zone in Abkhazia, Mikheil Saakashvili called on the Russian side to refrain from unilateral acts and to observe all necessary mandatory procedures in the transportation of ammunition,” the Georgian press service reported. “Dmitry Medvedev called impermissible the provocation in relation to the Russian peacekeepers, who are carrying out their activity in accordance with international obligations,” the Kremlin summarized, thus casting a shadow over Tbilisi’s hope that Saakashvili would develop a better relationship with the new Russian president than he had with the last one.

    Georgia does not intend to return the confiscated ammunition to Russia, despite the latter’s demands. “As for the missiles, which were being transported with gross safety violations, a criminal case has been initiated on that fact. The weaponry has been confiscated and added to the material evidence in the case and can be returned only by court decision,” Shota Utiashvili, head of the Georgian Interior Ministry information department told Kommersant.

    Source: http://www.kommersant.com/p904347/Ru...ian_relations/

    Security enhanced for Russian railway troops in Abkhazia




    Russians transport missiles to Abkhazia: Georgian media: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nF1WMVTk3o

    Russia has enhanced the security of its railway troops in Georgia's breakaway republic of Abkhazia following two blasts at a railroad platform in the suburbs of the republic's capital, Sukhumi, a military official said on Wednesday. "Our troops were not hurt in the explosions," he said. "The security of our railway troops has been tightened." The first blast occurred at 17:35 local time (13:35 GMT), the second following seven minutes later. An investigation has been launched. Abkhazian police suspect the incident could have been a terrorist attack aimed at Russian railroad troops. Moscow announced the deployment of around 300 unarmed railroad troops in the self-proclaimed republic on May 31 to repair railroad tracks. The deployment met a furious reaction from Georgia, which accused Moscow of preparing for military intervention. The Russian Defense Ministry said last week an attempt to carry out a terrorist act on June 13 along a section of the Tamysh-Ochamchira track was aimed against railroad troops in Abkhazia. Relations between Russia and Georgia have been strained in recent months ever since Russia stepped up support for Abkhazia and South Ossetia, another breakaway Georgian republic. Tbilisi has accused the Kremlin of plans to annex the territories. Georgia's bid to join NATO has also been a cause of tension. Abkhazia broke away from Georgia in the early 1990s following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Between 10,000 and 30,000 people were killed in the subsequent hostilities. The two sides signed a ceasefire in 1994 in Moscow. Peace talks between Abkhazia and Georgia broke off in July 2006 when Tbilisi sent troops into Abkhazia's Kodori Gorge and established an alternative Abkhaz administration there.

    Source: http://en.rian.ru/world/20080618/111172256.html

    Russian Demands Georgia Return Missiles



    The Russian Defense Ministry has demanded that Georgia immediately return a Russian peacekeeping automobile and ammunition seized on Tuesday in the Georgia-Abkhazia conflict zone. The automobile and ammunition of the Russian peacekeepers seized in a criminal manner by the enforcement structures of Georgia in the conflict zone should be returned to the peacekeepers immediately,” said Igor Konashenkov, aide to the chief commander of the Russian infantry. onashenkov said that 20 antitank missiles, which are the standard ammunition for the antitank battalion of the peacekeeping forces were taken from Zugdidi District of Georgia. Konashenkov noted that both sides in the conflict have tanks divisions. Four Russian peacekeepers were detained on Tuesday in Georgia’s Zugdidi District by unknown men. An investigation by the mixed command found that two cars with civilian license plates blocked the car in which Russian peacekeepers were carrying the ammunition within the conflict zone at about 6:30 p.m. The peacekeepers were held at machinegun-point by two men in civilian clothes for 20 minutes. Then police and a Georgian television crew arrived and the peacekeepers were disarmed and taken to the police station. The Russian Defense Ministry praised the behavior of the peacekeepers, who, it said, did not give in to provocation to escalate the incident. A spokesman for the police district in Samegrelo told RIA Novosti information agency that four Russian peacekeepers were interrogated for nine hours, then released to a mixed command representative. Their cargo was confiscated. Georgian authorities say that 35 crates of various forms of ammunitions were taken. They included guided missiles and antitank mines. There is no agreement to use those weapons in the conflict zone, the Georgians said.

    Source: http://www.kommersant.com/p-12714/Ru...ian_relations/

    Georgia frees four Russian troops after arms-smuggling arrest



    Georgian police released on Wednesday four Russian peacekeepers detained on Tuesday night allegedly smuggling arms out of breakaway Abkhazia, police said on Wednesday. Relations between Russia and Georgia have been further strained in recent months, since Russia stepped up support for Abkhazia and sent more troops into the region. Tbilisi has accused the Kremlin of plans to annex the territory. "The four detainees were freed after nine hours of questioning," police said. "They were given back their automatic weapons and passports. The military cargo was confiscated." Georgia's Interior Ministry said on Tuesday that the peacekeepers were transporting 35 crates of munitions, including guided missiles and anti-tank mines. "This type of arms is not allowed in the conflict zone. This is a violation of existing agreements," police said on Wednesday. Mamuka Kurashvili, a senior Defense Ministry official, said: "The Russians made an attempt to create a kind of military base at their headquarters in the Georgian district of Zugdidi, but we will not allow this to happen." Georgia's Interior Ministry said police were continuing the investigation. Russia's Defense Ministry said on Tuesday the arrest was "in violation of all regulatory norms in the buffer zone." Russia has reacted angrily to arrests of its military personnel in the former Soviet republic. Georgia's brief detention of Russian officers on spying charges in 2006 resulted in a postal and transport blockade that was only lifted this year. Moscow has denied Tbilisi's accusations of seeking to annex Abkhazia and condemned Georgia's policy toward the restive region as conducive to new bloodshed. Georgia under the Western-leaning President Mikheil Saakashvili has sought to join NATO, the plans that have fueled tensions in relations with Russia.

    Source: http://en.rian.ru/world/20080618/111015994.html

    Russia warns Georgia detaining peacekeepers may end in bloodshed




    Georgia releases Russian peacekeepers accused of smuggling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z61ZQA_FCQ8

    A Russian General Staff official warned Georgia on Thursday that the patience of Russian peacekeepers was running out and any further detentions could end in bloodshed. The warning comes amid the detention Tuesday night of four Russian peacekeepers by Georgian police on suspicion of smuggling weapons out of the breakaway region of Abkhazia. The peacekeepers have since been released. "The consequences might be extremely serious, such as bloodshed," said Lt. Gen. Alexander Burutin, a deputy head of the General Staff, adding that there were no guarantees that Russian troops stationed in the region would continue to be so tolerant. The peacekeepers were detained by Georgian police supervised by a deputy head of a crime police unit in the Zugdidi district, western Georgia. Burutin said the detention was unwarranted and called it "a bandit attack."

    "Under the circumstances, the Russian peacekeepers had the complete right to use their weapons and ammunition, to defend themselves and their equipment," the official said. He said the right was contained in the mandate of the Collective Peacekeeping Forces, stationed in the region since a bloody Georgian-Abkhazian conflict in the early 1990s. But Georgia's deputy foreign minister said peacekeepers' operations were restricted by their mandate. "Russia must realize Georgia's consent is needed for moving through its territory," Grigol Vashadze said. "As to threatening bloodshed, Georgia permanently hears this from its northern neighbor. The only thing I can say is that we are not afraid, so they [the Russians] can try if they want," he said. Georgia's Interior Ministry claimed that the peacekeepers were transporting 35 crates of munitions, including guided missiles and anti-tank mines. Georgia refused to return the seized arms until an investigation has been completed. "A criminal probe has been launched and we cannot return the confiscated equipment to Russia before the investigation is completed," said Shota Utiashvili, the head of the ministry's analytical department.

    A Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman earlier said the detention violated all existing norms. "This was done in violation of all regulations, in particular, the peacekeeping force mandate," Andrei Nesterenko said. He also said that moves like this were aimed at worsening bilateral relations and that a host of recent incidents in Abkhazia had been staged by Tbilisi to this purpose. Georgia broadcast film footage of the Russian peacekeepers being dragged from their truck and disarmed by people dressed in civilian clothes. Relations between Russia and Georgia have been strained in recent months ever since Russia stepped up support for Abkhazia and South Ossetia, another breakaway Georgian republic, and sent more troops into the region. Tbilisi has accused the Kremlin of plans to annex the territories. Georgia's bid to join NATO has also caused tension. Georgia's brief detention of Russian officers on spying charges in 2006 resulted in a postal and transport blockade that was only lifted earlier this year.

    Source: http://en.rian.ru/world/20080619/111333707.html
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    • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

      Originally posted by meline
      Originally posted by Siamanto View Post
      If the president of a powerful country, like Russia, makes time to visit a minor country, like Azerbaijan, it, most likely, means that
      1- The minor country holds control of strategic resources that the powerful country eagerly/desperately wants/needs
      2- The issue(s) could not be solved by lower ranked officials - i.e. ministers or lower
      3- The powerful country is eager/desperate enough to put the issue(s) on the president's agenda to travel, and be ready for some concessions/"ass kissing"
      It's quite difficult to imagine what strategic resources Azerbaijan might hold that Russia "eagerly/desperately wants/needs". Oil? Definitely not. Then what? Name but a few.
      If you can't imagine, then make an effort to follow closely the press coverage of Medvedev's visit; it may stimulate your imagination???? It seems that your "imagination" did not even add together the fact that the both Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan will be honored? How about a certain radar installation?
      meline, I don't mean to be harsh, but, it won't hurt you to make an effort to inform yourself on the subject using Google, that's a good start.

      Also, why, when and how, according to you, an issue is put on a (high ranked) manager/official's agenda????




      Originally posted by meline
      The claim that a powerful country like Russia might be ready for some "ass kissing" as far as a "minor country" like Azerbaijan is concerned is a contradiction in terms. Sorry, your arguments are flawed, hence not convincing.
      First of all, the term "contradiction" does not apply to what does - or can - happen in the empirical world. Are you confusing what is unlikely and "hard to believe" i.e. empirically infrequent, improbable, and contradictory i.e. i.e. logically inconsistent?
      Second of all, can it be that such an eventuality seems "hard to believe" to you, because you have little exposure to how Upper Management thinks and operates???

      Also, from your candid confidence - regarding the (in)significance of the visit, I gather that Risk Management is not one of your main preoccupations, to say the least????
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        Siamanto, you are being very personal and argumentative in this thread. You're warned. The rest of you, try not to fall into the trap of responding to any attacks and just ignore any temptations to incite temper tantrums.

        If you are going to come into threads and start nothing but inciting arguments, you will be banned.
        Last edited by Anonymouse; 06-23-2008, 02:04 PM.
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        • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

          Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
          Siamanto, you are being very personal and argumentative in this thread. You're warned. The rest of you, try not to fall into the trap of responding to any attacks and just ignore any temptations to incite temper tantrums.

          If you are going to come into threads and start nothing but inciting arguments, you will be banned.
          I have commented on the significance of Medvedev's visit, and, instead of providing any meaningful argument on the subject, some tried to change the issues/subject with personal attacks - or should I say "came into the thread and started nothing but inciting arguments."
          Can't someone push back when pushed? Do you really think that one enjoys wasting time pushing back?
          Last edited by Siamanto; 06-23-2008, 02:33 PM.
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          • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

            Originally posted by Siamanto View Post
            I have commented on the significance of Medvedev's visit, and, instead of providing any meaningful argument on the subject, some tried to change the issues/subject with personal attacks - or should I say "came into the thread and started nothing but inciting arguments."
            Can't someone push back when pushed? Do you really think that one enjoys wasting time pushing back?
            I don't know how far back I have to go in the thread to see where you commented on Medvedev's visit, and what I saw in the last few pages was you getting personal.

            I'm not here to ruin anyone's jollies. If you want to discuss, do so peacefully for god's sake. Why does every disagreement have to revolve around the person?

            I know if I gave you and Armenian guns, you would shoot each other. But that's not the point here. Just keep it cool. I don't wanna ruin anyone's foruming or what have you.

            If you find yourself (and this applies to everyone) not being able to control yourself in your response without resorting to personal attacks, then don't respond at all.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

              Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
              I don't know how far back I have to go in the thread to see where you commented on Medvedev's visit, and what I saw in the last few pages was you getting personal.
              It was Post 1842. Interestingly, they have limited themselves to the "I push you, you push me" Language Game; even after their request, potential strategic resources were mentioned/hinted in post 1848 - as if their intention was not to debate, but to divert the attention, the focus.
              And, as I see it, an example of what you have called "come into threads and start nothing but inciting arguments" would be http://forum.armenianclub.com/showpo...postcount=1849; naturally, one "has" to push back when pushed.

              By the way, don't you think that the same forumers are doing the same in "The Other Armenia" thread - i.e. "come into threads and start nothing but inciting arguments?"
              How about http://forum.armenianclub.com/showpo...07&postcount=7, isn't it yet another instance of "come into threads and start nothing but inciting arguments?"



              Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
              I'm not here to ruin anyone's jollies. If you want to discuss, do so peacefully for god's sake. Why does every disagreement have to revolve around the person?

              I know if I gave you and Armenian guns, you would shoot each other. But that's not the point here. Just keep it cool. I don't wanna ruin anyone's foruming or what have you.

              If you find yourself (and this applies to everyone) not being able to control yourself in your response without resorting to personal attacks, then don't respond at all.
              I agree with you that, in many unfortunate situations, the Language Game is more or less a regretful "I push you, you push me" than rational; but, at least in my case, it does not mean that it's emotional - of course, it does not make it less unfortunate, regretful or unpleasant. My approach is: "You push me/others and I push you back, you kiss me/others and I kiss you back." (Digital Underground)
              Of course, you can argue that the concept of "Robin Hood" may have some unpleasant/unfortunate consequences - and it may; but, is "Robinson Crusoe" a "better" approach - probably, easier???

              By the way, is there a need to clarify what is meant by "Robing Hood" and "Robinson Crusoe," in this context?
              Last edited by Siamanto; 06-23-2008, 04:08 PM.
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              • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                Originally posted by Illuminator View Post
                NO it's not really off topic. Great team, great game...proves Russia is BACK in a BIG way!

                Thank you, Illuminator.

                Originally posted by meline
                Congratulations! I enjoyed it greatly! Здорово ребята!

                Thank you, meline.


                Well, even Dmitry Medvedev discussed football during official meeting in Kremlin. Here's what I've found:

                Beginning of a Meeting with King Juan Carlos I of Spain

                June 19, 2008
                The Kremlin, Moscow


                PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA DMITRY MEDVEDEV: Your Majesty!

                I am delighted to welcome you to Moscow! I am glad to have this opportunity to get acquainted with you. You are always a welcome guest, and you have visited our country often and been to a number of different areas.
                I would like to say immediately that recently the ties between Russia and Spain have become much closer. To cite just two examples: first, over just the past three months, trade between our countries has increased by 62 per cent. This is a good indicator.

                Second, there is our cultural cooperation and all the contacts between people. We have learned how to arrive at satisfactory results in a variety of situations: even at the European Championships we were both able to qualify in the first round and go through to the quarterfinals. That is an estimable achievement.I am glad to see you in Moscow.

                KING OF SPAIN JUAN CARLOS I: I think we should congratulate each other.

                DMITRY MEDVEDEV: On our football results, absolutely.




                JUAN CARLOS I: I am very grateful to you, Mr President, for having me here today. I would like to convey my best wishes on behalf of my family, as well as from the government of Spain.

                For me it is always very gratifying to be in your country. Following recent developments in Russia I did not want to miss the opportunity to come and personally meet with you.

                I want to congratulate you and say that my presence in Russia should help the further the development of our private, cultural and economic relations.

                I think that we have many opportunities ahead and that we have a lot to do. We have many areas to explore, a large number of fields for action. Our willingness to do this is clear. Our people love each other, our leaders know each other, and now all we have to do is get down to work.

                DMITRY MEDVEDEV: That's exactly right.

                source -



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                What I find interesting is that King of Spain visited Moscow BEFORE any Spain's official....
                Well, let's hope that cooperation between Russia and Spain will be fruitful, but first Russia needs to crash Spain on the football field....





                Russia lost its very first game of the European Championship to Spain, but now both teams will meet again on Thursday....

                June 10, 2008 - Spain 4 - 1 Russia

                David Villa struck a hat-trick as classy Spain got their Euro 2008 challenge off to a flying start against Russia at a rain-swept Stadion Tivoli Neu in Innsbruck.

                ESPNsoccernet - Report: Spain vs Russia - European Championship




                May 16, 2008,
                The Kremlin, Moscow
                Meeting with Zenit Football Team


                PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA DMITRY MEDVEDEV: Dear friends,
                What can I say? Well done! Quite simply, well done!
                I am genuinely happy to have this chance to meet with you and congratulate you on your marvellous victory. I hope this victory will become a turning point in Russian football’s development. Once again, a Russian club has won the UEFA Cup, one of European football’s most prestigious trophies. You won this Cup in a competition full of interest and beautiful moments. The whole country was watching and feeling all the emotion. You defeated strong and worthy opponents.

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                • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                  Originally posted by Zakharov
                  Also most consider that Armenia is in vain getting involved in the Nagorno Karabakh conflict, as it costs to much to the country.

                  I'm not really sure who he is referring to, Armenian politicians, Armenians in general, or Russian politicians?


                  Originally posted by eldar
                  official position, established and voiced on the state level, position of experts and public opinion. Thus, on all the three criteria, the game is targeting the Armenian goals.

                  This is exactly what we need to do, especially the Diaspora. However the zionist media will be more than happy to accomodate their puppets in baku.

                  And the economist is nothing but another outlet for globalists, they are very partisian in their reporting and it shows. Originally a classic liberal/libertarian magazine, it is now a neo liberal outlet along the lines of the garbage published by the soros foundation.
                  For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                  to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                  http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                    I see that some get carried over too easily. I'm Russia friendly but Armenia's interests come first and consider the facts. How much Russians value Armenia despite all the sacrifices? Let's see.






                    21% Of Russians Polled By Russian Public Opinion Poll Center Consider Ukraine Enemy Of Russia (11:22, Friday, May 9, 2008)

                    Ukrainian News Agency

                    According to a poll conducted by the all-Russian Center for Study of Public Opinion of Russians, 21% of Russian citizens consider Ukraine an enemy of Russia.

                    Ukrainian News learned this from outcomes of the poll.

                    Respondents were asked to name countries Russia had the most hostile relations.

                    Of those polled, 25% said Russia's enemy was the Untied States, 25% named Georgia, 8% Britain, 6% named Baltic countries, 5% Poland and Estonia, 3% Japan and Latvia, 2% China and Lithiania, 1% Belarus, Germany, Iraq, Korea, France, Afghanistan, Czechnya, Mid east, former republic of the Soviet Union, and the European Union, and 1% were undecided.

                    Meantime, 2% of Russians consider Ukraine a friendly state of Russia.

                    Of those polled, 23% regard China as the best friend of Russia, 17% Germany, 14% Belarus, 9% the United States, 8% Kazakhstan, 7% India, 6% France, 4% countries of the European Union, 3% Bulgaria and Japan, 2% Armenia, Italy, Poland, and former republics of the Soviet Union, 1% Britain, Brazil, Israel, Iran, Spain, Korea, Serbia, Turkey, Finland, countries of South America, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, and countries of the east.

                    Of those polled, 1% said Russia had good relations with all countries and 45% were undecided.

                    The poll was conducted on April 5 and April 6. The center polled 1,600 Russians. The error margin is within 3.4%.

                    As Ukrainian News earlier reported, in April, 25% of Ukrainians polled by the Public Opinion Fund - Ukraine (FOM) said they expected the relations with Russia will improve within eight years.

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                      Originally posted by zeytuntsi View Post
                      I see that some get carried over too easily. I'm Russia friendly but Armenia's interests come first and consider the facts. How much Russians value Armenia despite all the sacrifices? Let's see.






                      21% Of Russians Polled By Russian Public Opinion Poll Center Consider Ukraine Enemy Of Russia (11:22, Friday, May 9, 2008)

                      Ukrainian News Agency

                      According to a poll conducted by the all-Russian Center for Study of Public Opinion of Russians, 21% of Russian citizens consider Ukraine an enemy of Russia.

                      Ukrainian News learned this from outcomes of the poll.

                      Respondents were asked to name countries Russia had the most hostile relations.

                      Of those polled, 25% said Russia's enemy was the Untied States, 25% named Georgia, 8% Britain, 6% named Baltic countries, 5% Poland and Estonia, 3% Japan and Latvia, 2% China and Lithiania, 1% Belarus, Germany, Iraq, Korea, France, Afghanistan, Czechnya, Mid east, former republic of the Soviet Union, and the European Union, and 1% were undecided.

                      Meantime, 2% of Russians consider Ukraine a friendly state of Russia.

                      Of those polled, 23% regard China as the best friend of Russia, 17% Germany, 14% Belarus, 9% the United States, 8% Kazakhstan, 7% India, 6% France, 4% countries of the European Union, 3% Bulgaria and Japan, 2% Armenia, Italy, Poland, and former republics of the Soviet Union, 1% Britain, Brazil, Israel, Iran, Spain, Korea, Serbia, Turkey, Finland, countries of South America, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, and countries of the east.

                      Of those polled, 1% said Russia had good relations with all countries and 45% were undecided.

                      The poll was conducted on April 5 and April 6. The center polled 1,600 Russians. The error margin is within 3.4%.

                      As Ukrainian News earlier reported, in April, 25% of Ukrainians polled by the Public Opinion Fund - Ukraine (FOM) said they expected the relations with Russia will improve within eight years.
                      It's below the error margin, and, the political amateurs spare no efforts to convince the most impressionable members of the community, that Armenia should put all its eggs in the same basket?
                      It comforts me to know that those amateurs have no say or role Armenia's, balanced and complementary, foreign policies.
                      Last edited by Siamanto; 06-24-2008, 10:25 AM.
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