Armenian-Turkish Relations

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Gavur replied

10-14-2009, 08:43 PM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Originally posted by Davo88 View Post

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...le_for_turkey/

See how this xxx commends Turkey for the protocols and praises it as a leader among Muslim countries. He also caracterises our opposition to the protocols as "bizarre" saying that if Iran wanted to discuss the holocaust with impartial historians the xxxs would be more than happy. I doubt that it is the case. xxxs would then denigrate Iran by saying that they dare questioning the veracity of the Holocaust. Besides, the historians in Turkey that we are going to sit with and the likes of Justin McCarthy are nothing close to being impartial.

Stephen Kinzer is an excellent author and columnist (I liked his book Crescent and Star: Turkey Between Two Worlds) Even though he's a Turkolover he's not a denier.The comparison between Israel and Armenia ? is hypothetical and I don't put much value in hypothetical scenarios.That is one of his weakest columns I 've seen..
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Haykakan replied

10-14-2009, 08:04 PM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Originally posted by Davo88 View Post

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...le_for_turkey/

See how this xxx commends Turkey for the protocols and praises it as a leader among Muslim countries. He also caracterises our opposition to the protocols as "bizarre" saying that if Iran wanted to discuss the holocaust with impartial historians the xxxs would be more than happy. I doubt that it is the case. xxxs would then denigrate Iran by saying that they dare questioning the veracity of the Holocaust. Besides, the historians in Turkey that we are going to sit with and the likes of Justin McCarthy are nothing close to being impartial.

Now your making sence, good analisys there.
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Haykakan replied

10-14-2009, 08:00 PM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Originally posted by Gavur View Post

Silly Because it doesn't fit your view of the "Real"'s. non the less true.
These guys are the establishment, true or not?
This LTP fool retires 2 years ago and says he's out of politics for good, and going to write a book on history, true.
He's immediately ushered back by the external powers a year ago to be the false opposition, and to give hes partners in crime oppurtinity to take the firmest control and eliminate any possibility of the true opposition (who BTW were asleep at the wheel)
Other then a few brave voices in the wild, true.
You won't want to see this because you are not for the people, just an opportunist riding the coat tales of the establishment for possible personal gain.
Now, hows about them apricots ?

What personal gains could i possibly have? i joined this "club" long before this all started back when no one knew this was gona happen. Ltp was run out of town by kocharian, what makes you think they would work togather in cognito? Your implication that the foreign powers went through the trouble of returning ltp to Armenia to be a counter weight to dashnaktsutsiun which is a irrelavent party in hayastan anyways is utterly laughable. The present government does not need help against the dashnaks, the dashnaks are weak in armenian politics so there is no need to gang up on them or to contrive a concpirasy theory.Your paranoya has reached delusional heights. I dought even you believe the crap you write.
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Davo88 replied

10-14-2009, 07:42 PM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/10/15/a_new_role_for_turkey/

See how this xxx commends Turkey for the protocols and praises it as a leader among Muslim countries. He also caracterises our opposition to the protocols as "bizarre" saying that if Iran wanted to discuss the holocaust with impartial historians the xxxs would be more than happy. I doubt that it is the case. xxxs would then denigrate Iran by saying that they dare questioning the veracity of the Holocaust. Besides, the historians in Turkey that we are going to sit with and the likes of Justin McCarthy are nothing close to being impartial.
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Gavur replied

10-14-2009, 12:22 PM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Originally posted by Haykakan View Post

So your saying LTP is created by Serj and friends to hold back the dashnaks? I dont need to have a agenda to see things nor do i need it to see how silly your implication is.

Silly Because it doesn't fit your view of the "Real"'s. non the less true.
These guys are the establishment, true or not?
This LTP fool retires 2 years ago and says he's out of politics for good, and going to write a book on history, true.
He's immediately ushered back by the external powers a year ago to be the false opposition, and to give hes partners in crime oppurtinity to take the firmest control and eliminate any possibility of the true opposition (who BTW were asleep at the wheel)
Other then a few brave voices in the wild, true.
You won't want to see this because you are not for the people, just an opportunist riding the coat tales of the establishment for possible personal gain.
Now, hows about them apricots ?
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Haykakan replied

10-14-2009, 12:05 PM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Originally posted by Gavur View Post

I see you are still under the influence of this charade, LTP is the establishment!
They have created a false opposition to get rid of the real opposition under the cover.Being a intelectual dificult to justify why you can't see that simple fact unless you have an agenda.

So your saying LTP is created by Serj and friends to hold back the dashnaks? I dont need to have a agenda to see things nor do i need it to see how silly your implication is.
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gegev replied

10-14-2009, 11:31 AM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

I wandered why the football match was chosen to start and finish the Armenia-Turkey talks, instead of a chess competition among the countries?

Now I know - chess matchs didn’t fit to the spirit of the pre-signed outcome; the surrender “Protocol”.

Last edited by gegev; 10-16-2009, 12:19 AM.
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Gavur replied

10-14-2009, 09:59 AM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Originally posted by Haykakan View Post

Does anyone still pay any attention to LTP? This guys contradicts himself constantly and even the dashnaks dont want any part of him despite his opposition to the establishment. LTP and his political career need to go the way of the dodo bird.

I see you are still under the influence of this charade, LTP is the establishment!
They have created a false opposition to get rid of the real opposition under the cover.Being a intelectual dificult to justify why you can't see that simple fact unless you have an agenda.
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ninetoyadome replied

10-14-2009, 09:04 AM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Originally posted by Haykakan View Post

Does anyone still pay any attention to LTP? This guys contradicts himself constantly and even the dashnaks dont want any part of him despite his opposition to the establishment. LTP and his political career need to go the way of the dodo bird.

seriously. when he was running for president he claimed he would he would open the border with azerbaijan and turkey and now that the border is going to open hes saying the opposite. he keeps flip flopping. atleast serzh is doing what he promised he would do. also think about it both turkey and azerbaijan wanted ltp to be president because they know hes more corrupt than Serzh.
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Haykakan replied

10-14-2009, 08:19 AM
Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Does anyone still pay any attention to LTP? This guys contradicts himself constantly and even the dashnaks dont want any part of him despite his opposition to the establishment. LTP and his political career need to go the way of the dodo bird.
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