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  • #1201
    Re: Elections in Armenia

    Raffi Hovannisian denies links to Freemasonry lodges

    NEWS.AM
    February 15, 2013 | 13:07


    YEREVAN.- Armenian presidential candidate Raffi Hovannisian dismissed
    suspicion of having any links to the Freemasonry lodges.

    `My father Richard Hovannisian and me have never had any links to
    Freemasons. We neither have been members of any organization,' he told
    reporters on Friday, adding that he sees nothing wrong in having links
    to Freemasonry lodge.

    Commenting on fellow candidate Vardan Sedrakyan's statements,
    Hovannisian said every person has a right to have a personal opinion
    but he must be accountable for label and lies.

    Raffi Hovannisian has no intention to file a lawsuit, unless he is
    accused of violence (probably supposing the attack on Paruyr Hayrikyan
    - ed.).

    As Armenian News-NEWS.am informed earlier, Sedrakyan accused
    Hovannisian of masterminding the recent assassination attempt against
    Hayrikyan. During a press conference on Thursday, Sedrakyan noted that
    he has reasonable grounds to believe that the assassination attempt
    was organized by a Freemasonry organization that conducts activities
    in Western Europe and the US. As per Sedrakyan, Raffi Hovannisian and
    his father, American-Armenian historian Richard Hovannisian, are
    members of these Freemasonry lodges. Furthermore, Sedrakyan noted that
    he knew for a long time that something is being orchestrated against
    him.
    Hayastan or Bust.

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    • #1202
      Re: Elections in Armenia

      http://www.yerkirmedia.am/?act=news&lan=hy&id=12345

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      • #1203
        Re: Elections in Armenia

        Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post

        Maybe some forget the bottom line of Turkish demands to open its border to Armenia:

        -Give up Artsakh to Azeri Turks
        -Forget about Genocide
        -Recognize current borders as legal and give up any ideas of Western Armenia


        It is easy to overlook the fact that the demands are irreversible BUT the opening of the border is reversible.

        .
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • #1204
          Re: Elections in Armenia

          It is easy to overlook the fact that the demands are irreversible BUT the opening of the border is reversible.
          You know maybe we should just wait for the rail link to be operational. Sometimes we are so busy to speak of things we don't take check of reality. We don't live in a good place, we are lucky that we are still alive to argue with one anther. Wake up and feck the toorks! It will be your death! Who cares who is in charge of what in Hayastan damn it! At least it is an Armenian. Wait for this rail link, and if this does not pan out we should build inter space travel for our link not just with the world but with the stars. Wake up!

          The rail link is either going to make or break this, and no one is taking back Artsakh with billions spent from the baboon they still loose more then we do on the battle field! let us not loose sight of the ball! It's all about the game!

          demands are irreversible BUT the opening of the border is reversible
          Feck them and their demands! They could not finish the job the first time! They are now running scared they know it's a matter of time before Verj! you cried about commercialization Mr. London yet sometimes I wonder where you are coming from. You detest commercialization but you are advocating opening the door to these filthy scum?



          Let the toorks demand what they want, it does not matter what they want! They can't open the border! It is not their land for them to open the fecking border! Enjoy the show!
          Last edited by Vahram; 02-17-2013, 02:48 PM.

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          • #1205
            Re: Elections in Armenia

            Originally posted by Vahram View Post

            The rail link is either going to make or break this, and no one is taking back Artsakh with billions spent from the baboon they still loose more then we do on the battle field! let us not loose sight of the ball! It's all about the game!


            Vahram,
            You do realize that the rail link won't be operational before a minimum 10 years, at best.... since not even the definit plan is validated.
            It's at the stage of studies yet...
            Only a very strong will, and endless financial and material means would make it faster. (The kind of wich the red army or the wehrmacht possessed)
            None is present to day, and frankly speaking, the lack of haste is more on our side... (I do not justify this, I think is silly, but things being what they are...)

            Just to compare with, look the time necessary for a much simpler link, between Tiflis and Kars, with big financial means available, and the political will of 2 states, one of wich at least very determined and organised...

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            • #1206
              Re: Elections in Armenia

              Just to compare with, look the time necessary for a much simpler link, between Tiflis and Kars, with big financial means available, and the political will of 2 states, one of wich at least very determined and organised...
              Vrej, hokiss, you were against the sheep thing because of the toork. Now are you for opening this border or not?

              I don't care if it takes 20 years the bottom line is that not only Russia, but China and Iran are behind it do you really think this will take 10 years? Geopolitical games are afoot. Surely after 1000+ years of dealing with this suljuk mofo's we can wait another 10 year no? I will wait 50 more years, I will most likely be dead by then, but I will hold my breath just the same!

              Getze Hayastan!

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              • #1207
                Re: Elections in Armenia

                Originally posted by Vahram View Post
                Vrej, hokiss, you were against the sheep thing because of the toork. Now are you for opening this border or not?

                I don't care if it takes 20 years the bottom line is that not only Russia, but China and Iran are behind it do you really think this will take 10 years? Geopolitical games are afoot. Surely after 1000+ years of dealing with this suljuk mofo's we can wait another 10 year no? I will wait 50 more years, I will most likely be dead by then, but I will hold my breath just the same!

                Getze Hayastan!
                I am definitely not against the rail link.
                I am 1000% for it.
                All I say, this is not going to happen next year....

                Concerning Russia's interest, I see no tangible elements in what you say.
                If we look into the details, we would see more restraint, if not counter arguments (i.e their role on Astara rail link...)
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                The sheep affair as it is planned today is just a fundamentally anti Armenian, and I pretend also anti iranian plan, and any sound Armenian would be against...
                I am sure, countering that plan before it turns to reality (= blood shedding in our mountains) won't harm at all interstate relations...
                Liska and some other corrupted oligarkho-mafiosniks will get a little less richer, and our mutual enemies will regret the lost opportunity... that's all.

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                • #1208
                  Re: Elections in Armenia

                  I am definitely not against the rail link.
                  I am 1000% for it.
                  All I say, this is not going to happen next year....
                  Ok let it happen 7 years from now. So what? Did we die after 20 years of independence?...NO So we can wait a few more years for this rail link.

                  Concerning Russia's interest, I see no tangible elements in what you say.
                  If we look into the details, we would see more restraint, if not counter arguments (i.e their role on Astara rail link...)
                  Geo political considerations change with the value of the object. The more the object is worth the more the politico's want a cut of the action. Let them all talk sh!t now when things are worth X, let them start talking sh!t when it is worth y! Cha ching!

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                  • #1209
                    Re: Elections in Armenia
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                    • #1210
                      Re: Elections in Armenia
                      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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