Elections in Armenia

[Haykakan]

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Here is some more info for you Vrej about how alike Serj and LTP are

HAK TO JOIN RALLY OF HERITAGE PARTY ON MARCH 1

Tuesday,
February 26

The Armenian National Congress (HAK) Party has urged its supporters
to join the rally that Heritage Party will hold near Monument
to Myasnikian on March 1. Earlier HAK had notified the Yerevan
Municipality of its intention to organize a rally in Liberty Square
on March 1.

"HAK considers holding on the same day two rallies dedicated to the
same event to be inexpedient. We call upon our supporters to gather
at Monument to Myasnikian and pay tribute to the victims of the March
1 events," a statement of HAK says.

TODAY, 17:41

Aysor.am

[Haykakan]

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Vrej talking to you is hopeless. The fact that Serj was born close to Kharabagh but not in it is an issue for you? The fact that he served in kharabagh all those years are meaningless to? In the end what matters is what the person does and Serj has done a lot for Armenia and kharabagh. If you choose not to see it then see what you like. No difference between Serj and LTP you say? Well like i said-hopeless.

[Vrej1915]

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Never seen so many people so eager to hang themselves along with their countrymen. Lets take a look at the two candidates yet again. Serj was born in Stepanagert Kharabagh-Raffi was born in sunny Fresno California. Serj served in the soviet military 1971-72-Raffi never served in any military. Serj was involved with runing Gharabagh before the war and became chairman of the kharabagh defence forces and he was the main planner of several successful battles kharabagh won. Raffi was watching scooby doo and when he finely did come to Armenia he joined Mr LTP and has been his buddy since. I know some here are not good at reading comprehension so i will repeat the important stuff once more. Serj=Kharabaghtsi with military and political experience vs Raffi=pampered diasporan with scoobi doo and kissing arss experience. Btw does anyone remember what happened the last time we left things under the control of LTP? Now do we really want to leave the country to the buddy of LTP? I know that Raffi is a diasporan and that means something to the diasporan armenians and you are right-it means like most diasporans Raffi is also brainwashed with the wonders of capitalism and democracy which never existed anywhere nore anytime. Like most other diasporans Raffi does not see any armenian issue unless it has the word genocide in it. Like most american diasporans Raffi thinks the USA economic/political model should be copied in Armenia. Raffi's actions mirror those of the typical USA politition. Diasporans along with Raffi have a hard time understanding that Armenia is not USA. Instead of fighting indians and their bows and arrows we have to contend with modern armies which drasticaly outnumber us. Instead of enjoying a industrial revolution with almost limitless resources we armenians dont have much resources. The USA has been protected by vast oceans from enemies for centuries while Armenia has been invaded by vast numbers of enemies over many more centuries. There is nothing wrong with a "can do attitude" as long as you really can do it but you cannot bring western ideologies and ways of doing things and dump them on Armenia and expect them to work when they don't even work in the USA. Wake up people - just because he is a diasporan does not make him a good leader. I will give Raffi credit where credit is due-unlike most diasporans not only has he been to Armenia but has settled there to. The funny thing is that the kind of change that is badly needed in Armenia is the last kind of change the diasporans and Mr Raffi have in mind. Capitalism is killing the entire world including the USA and Armenia and regardless of who is our leader the capitalist system will ensure that oligarchs and monopolists will continue to run everything just like they do in USA. I know this is just too much for many of you to comprehend and im not saying this to be sarcastic-unfortunately its the truth because everything i wrote here has been written before yet peoplehere still think Raffi will fix it and that Serj could have fixed it but chose not to. To see the world for what it really is you may have to look beyond your long armenian nose.

My dear,
Wish you wrote this piece in Armenian.
You would have made a lot of guy's day
So much funny ignorance/disinformation is worth the time !!!!!!!


In fact, you pretend to be an expert, but your expertise is more sarcastic/humoristic than scholar???
You never answer when cornered, in place you rewind you anti-capitalist diarea, again and again....

For your Info:
Serj is not born in Stepanakert. He is born in Degh village, Goris district.
Serj was known as LTP's sanik...; Without rewinding the story of those days, wich would need pages... just learn something, for once:
- the promotions of Serj was never based on his military experience, courage, experience... he was imposed on Artsakhtzis directly by LTP.
- there are virtually no ideological differences between LTP and Serjik. If there wasn't the imperative pressures of LTP/Vano/Vazken, none of Serjik/Robert/Samo would have done their ways as they did.....

[Vahram]

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Mher, the opposition sucked, I can see it from 10,000 miles away. Why don't you point the same light on the opposition? How they handled this is embarrassing to say the least. You just don't want to except the fact that people voted for Serj. In light of the competition who would blame them!

About deserving democracy, the opposition has to display some maturity to start with. You can't have a bunch of clowns going around pulling stunts! This is a shame for all of us, but for you the bigger shame is not seeing these glowing idiocy that was displayed by the opposition. Regardless of who is what behind closed doors at least Serj displayed that he can handle the job and is not some two year old. You are also forgetting that Raffi was invited to take part in the government back in the 90's so much for your old boy network theory. But wait, wait with him in republic square to have the presidency handed to him. Even the Joo press is agreeing that Serj won! Leave it up to Armenians to give themselves a bad name. That's just what has happened, yet you fail to point out any of these.

This was a glowing embarrassing show of stupidity by the opposition, every single one of them. Staging hunger strikes why not go and try and getting another voter? If you don't see the mistakes made then we are going to repeat this yet again with more stupidity to come.

[TomServo]

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Wrong thread.

[Haykakan]

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Democracy is no magic pill. In most cases it simply gives people the illusion that they matter but an illusion is all it is. Dont believe me? Just look at USA. In the end it is not the form of government that matters but the interests of those doing the governing. Should those interests coinside with the good of the nation then that nation will be a successfull one regardless of the type of government it has. Generaly speaking Democracy has the opposite effect-in most cases the leaders are chosen for short terms and will try to take advantage of their temporary powers for self gain. Compare that to a Monarch who is himself only as strong as his country is. Each form has its own pluses and minuses but the important thing to keepin mind is that these pluses and minuses are small and what really matters is what the true interests of the leaders are.

Just because you think someone is a good president does not justify people not getting to chose their leader. Otherwise if "armenians aren't mature enough for democracy yet" why don't we just stop bothering with this charade and just do what the baboons do, and have a full blown dictatorship

[Mher]

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Just because you think someone is a good president does not justify people not getting to chose their leader. Otherwise if "armenians aren't mature enough for democracy yet" why don't we just stop bothering with this charade and just do what the baboons do, and have a full blown dictatorship

[Mher]

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I'm wondering if we did not have this stupidity form immature and embarrassing opposition how would the world have viewed this election? I would think it was one of the best elections yet, but just look at the stupidity it is so embarrassing! Bravo for the opposition for taking a step back for the country. No real leaders in the lot, all of them an idiot of one sort or another. From hunger strikes to fake shooting ( staged ) to demanding that the government turn over the presidency. Yet none of you see any of the ills in this, some of you guys are just on track without even looking at the stupidity from the side that you support.

I'm sorry have you been to Armenia recently?
do you really think 58% of the voting population supports the ruling party?
Yura Movivsyan mentioned one thing about the election on Facebook congratulating Serj and every fan from Armenia jumped on his throat saying stick to playing football, and you don't live in this country to understand anything

[Vahram]

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I'm wondering if we did not have this stupidity form immature and embarrassing opposition how would the world have viewed this election? I would think it was one of the best elections yet, but just look at the stupidity it is so embarrassing! Bravo for the opposition for taking a step back for the country. No real leaders in the lot, all of them an idiot of one sort or another. From hunger strikes to fake shooting ( staged ) to demanding that the government turn over the presidency. Yet none of you see any of the ills in this, some of you guys are just on track without even looking at the stupidity from the side that you support.

[londontsi]

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....... The shareholders of our country are the people who have wealth and power. The oligarkhs.....

No they are not unless we are a despotic country.
That’s one indignity we do not have endure.

The shareholders of the country are its electorate.
One man one vote.
Rich or poor person, educated or uneducated, smart person or not so smart, peasant or scientist.

To keep fairness there are rules how to run campaigns, allocate recourses, canvass the electorate etc.
That is where most of the problems lie.